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Previous discussions are archived at /Archive1.--Domitius 12:30, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Frappe

Why do you refer to Macedonia as the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia on Misplaced Pages? --Bonina 23:02, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

It's a solution which has worked well thus far. Generally, the name "Republic of Macedonia is used, however" in articles relating to Greece, the UN, the EU, and generally articles pertaining to entities not recognizing a "Republic of Macedonia", the name FYROM is used instead. It has been modeled on the Gdansk/Danzig arrangement and has met with little serious opposition.--Domitius 23:05, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, Im seriously opposing it. Maybe you "invented" the Frappe, and God bless you for that. But, trust me, it's also very popular in the Republic of Macedonia. So, this article also relates to Macedonia, please change the FYROM. --Bonina 23:11, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Why don't you cite sources that it is popular in FYROM? After all, you are so set on demanding them elsewhere when it suites you.--Domitius 23:12, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Have you seen your own sources? not quite relevant, are they? --Bonina 23:30, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Ne te razbiram.--Domitius 23:32, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Your sources are illegitimate. As good as irrelevant. So, what kind of sources do you want from me? Menus from cafes? --Bonina 23:44, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

My personal WP:OR-opinion on the matter, and after having visited the country a few dozens of times for professional reasons, is that there is absolutely no remote idea of the beverage to any possible cafe-joint there. Yes, bring me one menu, from one cafe in the whole country to start. NikoSilver 21:59, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, I don't know where you went, but any cafe in Skopje has it. In fact, when I want to order a hot Nescafe I have to specify that I want it hot, otherwise they will bring me the Frappe. Im not claiming that we invented it or anything, I don't care who did, it's a coffee! I'm just saying that it's very popular. --Emeraldher 19:48, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

There you go, a menu from a cafe franchise in Skopje: --Emeraldher 20:26, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Afrika paprika

Nah... that's even beyond Afrika's "standards". Cheers, --PaxEquilibrium 00:32, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

You are the Stalker

If anyone was to look at both of our contribs, you would be the one who qualifies as a stalker - not me. Not mention all of those reverts you made push a the same exact POV, racist, and biased context. You have previously reverted Ordu already so don't act like you are "refraining" from anything now. Making the Ordu revert for you would mean reverting 100 percent of my edits, which without doubt make you the "stalker". Go ahead and report me - I would love someone to pay attention to this. --Oguz1 17:08, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Done.--Domitius 17:09, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Bozcaada

Because the most common meaning of "Bozcaada" is the island, not the district. I'll leave a dab note a the top of Tenedos. Khoikhoi 18:34, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

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Oxi, i tourkia kai ta katexomena ine to idio. des edo Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus "It is dependent on and recognized only by Turkey". Turkey-Turkish. I tourkia ekane set up ta katexomena, min sinxizese Aristovoul0s 18:40, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Economy of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus "The Turkish Cypriots are heavily dependent on monetary transfers from the Turkish government. Under the 2003-06 economic protocol, Ankara plans to provide around $550 million to the TRNC. The number of tourists visiting Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus during January-August 2003 was 286,901".

Foreign relations of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus "The Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, due to its unrecognized status internationally, is dependent upon Turkey to facilitate its contacts with the international community". Aristovoul0s

Hi

So had fun stalking? lol. So which incarnation of GreekWarrior are you? :) Baristarim 03:47, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

re

I don't know, I run into socks of many users so often that I sometimes just assume.. Some users constantly resurrect themselves. I don't mind if you are him actually, as long as your current edits are ok and not inflammatory, it is fine :) Cheers! Baristarim 23:52, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: Kosovo

The Security Council will not decide to continue the negotiations.

Anything else (whatever it will be) will not restore Serbia's full-scale control over Kosovo. If Russia vetoes it (and it may abstain), or if there is no consensus (Italy says that the matter is futile to argue about) or if Ahtisaari's proposal is adopted (not very likely to happen), the Kosovo Question will just be further lengthened...

Considering that it's only weeks (or better, days) away, just keep onto your patience for a little while and everything will be revealed. ;) Cheers. --PaxEquilibrium 23:55, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

User page

What on earth just happened to your userpage??? --PaxEquilibrium 18:20, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Domitius my friend, are You there? --PaxEquilibrium 23:19, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Tired of Serbian politicians. They've taken out two 3rds of their deadline to form the government and the mongrels can't even agree to form a Parliament (the 2007 budget runs out in exactly 2 days, on March 31; if they do not assemble it by then - no more money from the government). --PaxEquilibrium 23:31, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Contact Group already had its say about Kosovo yesterday (28 March). Result was: no consensus.

On 3 April will be the session of the Security Council on which the future of Kosovo would be decided.

However this is the greatest of the tragedies - the country may enter a serious economic crackdown in just 2 days. --PaxEquilibrium 23:54, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Today the European Parliament voted and concluded that the European Union supports/endorses Martti Ahtisaari's proposal for the final status of Kosovo. --PaxEquilibrium 21:55, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

My username

Yes, Mustafa Akalp-->Makalp. I want to learn;Why you interested in my reasons to change my username?.RegardsMust. 15:37, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

SALUT

Salutari :) Mi`a zis Bonaparte ca ma poti ajuta. Sunt nou pe wikipedia si nu inteleg prea multe. Diurpaneu 17:41, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok man. I need some help with those references. How do I add references? :) Diurpaneu 17:52, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi. I don`t understand how to set up the image copyright. Please check the image from this article written by me Dermatophilus congolensis. Diurpaneu 10:53, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi

Can you please try to stick to the issues and stop assuming bad faith on the part of TR users at every single opportunity? I am sorry, but some of your comments border on trolling "we have seen this before" or "TR POV pushing" - I really would like there to be a much better cooperation attitude between TR and GR users. I had thought that TR settlement article was a non-issue: it truly seemed like a fork of Cyprus dispute. There was no secret-agenda or anything, and that's why I said "merge any meaningful content to Cyprus dispute". Why assume bad faith for no reason? Baristarim 21:54, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Baris, do you honestly think any of my inputs on any AFD are motivated out of hostility for you or any other (pro-)TR editor? If you do, you certainly think highly of yourself. Let me assure you that anything I do is because I consider it fair and sourced. The Kurdish redirect and dab has been discussed ad nauseam and you accepted this compromise back in December. The article contains sourced material on a Kurdish genocide ergo it merits a redirect and a dab page so as to help readers find what they are looking for. My input at the settlements AFD again was because I considered it fair and sourced and still do. I consider that nomination part of a long chain of TR POV attempts to cover up the sourced fact that the bulk of the Turkish presence on Cyprus today are in fact colonizers from Turkey. Come on, stop playing dumb, you know what the effect of merging is. Sooner or later the word "settlements" will also be suppressed and replaced with something POV like "temporary guest workers' communities" (even if not by you, by someone else). The TR settlements article is sourced in my opinion and is relevant as a separate article.--Domitius 22:05, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

BG nouns

Err, I'm not sure: Bulgarian has almost no cases (only vocative, which is not so common, and some remnants), perhaps that's what they mean by writing this? Certainly, Bulgarian nouns are inflected for gender, number, definiteness and occasionally case. What you have given as an example of a case is indeed a "remnant" of the case system, but I have to say it's a bit artificial: nobody speaks like that for one, and this is not to be found in any dialects as far as I know, but otherwise everything with your observations is OK. Todor→Bozhinov 16:16, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Chalcidice

I will insert a move request when I have time; for now, the tag is a place holder. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 23:12, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Move nominated. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 22:40, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Mutt Lunker

I guees I have to thank you for attacking him with your sockpuppetry allegations. By tracing his edits to the only relevant article in his contrib list (Grigoriopol), I've found a real one . --Illythr 12:24, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Makes one wonder how he came across that article. It's not the kind of article many people of his limited experience who don't focus on Transnistria related articles would have on their watchlists.--Domitius 12:29, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I came across the Grigoriopol article because I largely use Misplaced Pages as a reference tool - that is what it's supposed to be for isn't it? There is a short wave radio transmitter site there and I was interested to see if there was any info on this (I have a professional interest - there wasn't info incidentally). I noticed some mildly loaded terminology plus missing definite articles, made an edit and, out of interest, put it on my watchlist. Later edits by Iliescu seem to have an element of bias as he is deleting refs and categories for Transnistria - however in looking further into the can of worms there seem to be other potentially biased editors towards the Russian/Slavic side, so I wouldn't single him out. Simple as that. As per my talk page, I'm perfectly happy for an administrator to ascertain I'm no sockpuppet. How do I facilitate this so the sockpuppet tag is removed with everyone happy? By the way I'm a bit concerned that Illythr is thankful for me being "attacked" - doesn't one assume good faith until there is genuine evidence otherwise? I think I might be on the point of retracting the assertion on my talk page that I'm not offended. Mutt Lunker 19:30, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I usually put is as "assume good faith unless there is reasonable evidence otherwise". A new user (seemingly) pushing the same views as a blocked user and proven skilled sockpuppeteer does raise eyebrows. Do you think I shouldn't have suspected, was I unreasonably after taking into account what I say above. If you want to remove the tag, feel free to remove it, as I told you.--Domitius 19:33, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't want to just unilaterally remove the tag, especially as you evidently still suspect me as a sockpuppet. I just want this sorted out. Can you please tell me how to go about getting checked in the way you alluded on my page so that this can be cleared up? Mutt Lunker 20:15, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

You're not unilaterally removing it if the person who added it says he doesn't object. For there to be an IP check one has to make a WP:RFCU and I don't have the time to do that right now.--Domitius 21:15, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I think it'd be best if you remove the tag yourself, Domitius. --Illythr 01:02, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Done.--Domitius 09:44, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you...

for the welcome. I will sure contact you if I have sth to ask. Greetings --Bucephala 14:04, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for welcome. Graeco 23:19, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Independent Kosovo

It seems there isn't much support for it in the Security Council after all... --PaxEquilibrium 11:18, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

At least 60,000 Serbs living south of the river Ibar are determined to and will flee across the river the very moment Kosovo becomes independent. That would be unavoidable. However, keep on mind North Kosovo. For the 50,000+ Serbs living there, all is not lost. The government needs not sponsor anything, most Kosovo Serbs actually want to get away from Kosovo - they are subjected to brutal discrimination, torment, frequent killings etc. for the past 8 years!

Yes; that is why I supported the independence of Kosovo initially (I sympathize with the Liberal Democratic Party).

BTW Serbia will have not learned a lesson. For the moment Kosovo becomes independent, the Serbian Radical Party will seize power in Serbia and we don't want that to happen.

Population changes? Like the ones they've had in BH in 1996? Considering that the lowest birth rate people in Serbia are Serbs, not much point in there. ;) In the 1970s over 80% of the population were Serbs; now it's below 66%. The only reason why they will retain majority in Vojvodina is solely because the Hungarians have a pretty low natural increase too (although not that low), so the other nations (Rusyns, Slovaks, Croats, Romanians,...) will not drastically increase (especially because they all too have negative birth rates). In the end, the general population of Serbia (minus Kosovo) is very rapidly dying out dramatically (emigration counted); not just the Serbs (only the Albanians have positive birth rate). --PaxEquilibrium 11:37, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Propaganda for secession of Republika Srpska - yes. But for Republic of Serbian Krajina... how? On which basis? There're even no Serbs there (practically)! Brainwash the local Croats into secession? :D --PaxEquilibrium 11:57, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Don't You know that 600,000 Serbs (most) that lived were expelled in various organized operations in 1991-1995? Only about 150,000 remained and they form majority practically nowhere... and today a few returned. Nowadays there are 200,000 Serbs in Croatia (still form majority pretty much nowhere). --PaxEquilibrium 12:03, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

WP:NOT

Please stop. #Misplaced Pages is not a battleground. -- Cat 17:26, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't understand. Were you just scraping the bottom of the barrel to find something, anything you could lecture me over?--Domitius 17:34, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Pointy, pointy Dirak :)) You create any more redirects and I will report it at AN:I that it was only because you hit 3RR.. Please learn how to be a good wikipedian.. Baristarim 20:13, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

What do you mean?--Domitius 20:13, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Your brand new article - read WP:STALK - it is ok to stalk if you have a strong suspicion that a user will act disruptively.. You created that article just because you hit 3RR on the dab page. Baristarim 20:15, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

The editor who did this accuses me of stalking! Very rich indeed...--Domitius 20:16, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

I didn't accuse you of stalking, I said I had good reason to stalk you since you have been known to commit disruption per WP:POINT - you hit 3RR and created a new article - that is blatant disruption. Baristarim 20:21, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

How?--Domitius 20:21, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

I want to report Domitius for continuing nationalist POV without refering to any kind of sources and as you said, Misplaced Pages is not a battleground.

If he continues like that, I think it is time to ban him. Alkalada 20:18, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

How about the quotations I and Pax gave on your talkpage a few hours ago?--Domitius 20:20, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, I have answered but you are obviously shocked about the truth, because you dont answer on my talk page.

And I have seen your edits, it is completely your own opinion and nationalistic opinion like Republika Srpska is a country and we bosniaks never existed before the arrival of turks and so on...

Because of that I want to report you. And I have seen your page on the serbian wikipedia and I can say that you serbs have some serious problems to issue with in the future... Alkalada 20:29, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm not Serbian and the only reason I'm not replying to you is because I'm impatient with Titoist brainwashing and propaganda re nation building.--Domitius 20:39, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Ahahahaha!

Look, I am Muslim, and I hate kommunism! Please... dont call me Titoist. I am Muslim. Alkalada 20:58, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Alkalada

Domitius, you might wanna know this - User:Alkalada is a meat-puppet of banned user User:Hahahihihoho. After he created tens of meat-puppets and kept returning from his ban, the administrators got tired and decided to let him go this time (User:Duja in particular).

I think he used his shot (You can even ask him, he doesn't even deny he's Hahahihihoho). --PaxEquilibrium 00:49, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Image

Did you make that map yourself? I actually find the "Roman Bureaucratic Republic" kind of ... funny. :) Iblardi 10:37, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Happy Easter

Khristós Anésti! --PaxEquilibrium 15:07, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Αληθώς ο Κύριος! Χρόνια Πολλά! NikoSilver 12:01, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Islands

No, much more like the Greeks in Smyrna, Ephes, Constantinople and Pontus.

Map

I'm now into drawing maps for Misplaced Pages. I've made a map of Serbs from 1910 on the Balkans.

Compare it with the former Yugoslavia map without Slovenia. Yes, that's Albania. --PaxEquilibrium 22:06, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

And take a look at the map of the Kingdom of Serbia from 1910 (it's the "thickest" in there, you'll be able to fit it in). --PaxEquilibrium 22:10, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

The other so dark to the southwest is the Princedom/Kingdom of Montenegro. --PaxEquilibrium 22:11, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

There. I added the borders between land and see, marked the international borders of the realms of Serbia and Montenegro and the border between the Ottoman Empire and the Dual Monarchy of Austro-Hungary. Clearer? :) --PaxEquilibrium 22:47, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Was my "essay" on Scanderbey OK? :) --PaxEquilibrium 18:16, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

I tried, but Dimror chased me away; won't try it again. --PaxEquilibrium 18:26, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Serbs in Macedonia

this is their full story in short. Although it indeed is Serbian POV, the text tends to be rather neutral (it does not simply call the Macedonians "really Serbs" or anything nearly it). --PaxEquilibrium 20:15, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

BTW

I redrew the map, is it clearer now? ;) --PaxEquilibrium 17:02, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

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TfD nomination of Template:Casualties of the PKK conflict

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Hello Aristovoulous / Slogankid

Tell me, do you get tired of the whole sockpuppet/meatpuppet nonsense? Adam777 21:46, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Questionable image

Domitius, could you possibly explain your recent upload of this image? It seems patently unencyclopedic - I can't imagine what useful purpose it could possibly serve on Misplaced Pages, and I can envisage just about every Balkan nationality seeing it as inflammatory. -- ChrisO 23:33, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

1. http://www.holidayinnorthcyprus.com/eventsView.jsp?idNews=27