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⚫ While ITIL was started in the it has since become an international standard adopted everywhere. Should the article be re-written to remove British English? I'm not sure of the arguments pro or con in this area. --] (]) 17:37, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
The article should not include a re-statement of what ITIL is, contains, addresses, etc. The sources referenced will do this -- or the article won't stay. As an article, it ought to be an overview of what the framework provides but not by specific applications. There needs to be enough detail so that similarities and differences from other frameworks can be shown.
] (]) 22:57, 14 September 2011 (UTC) :No. Why would any other variety of English be more suitable? --] (]) 17:46, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
⚫ :No; see ] --] (]) 15:53, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
::Most of the British English has been removed from the ITIL guidance already. The exams have had all of the language specific to the UK removed for some time now. The reason is very simple, and has already been stated -- it is used around the world. Keeping British colloquialisms and UK-specific spellings of words like "whilst" makes no sense.] (]) 12:55, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
::: If you're going to remove 'British English', why not remove French or German whilst you are about it? It makes no sense, as you say, if you can write everything in American. ] (]) 10:59, 23 June 2020 (UTC)


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⚫ While ITIL was started in the UK it has since become an international standard adopted everywhere. Should the article be re-written to remove British English? I'm not sure of the arguments pro or con in this area. --] (]) 17:37, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
:No. Why would any other variety of English be more suitable? --] (]) 17:46, 16 November 2012 (UTC)


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⚫ :No; see ] --] (]) 15:53, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Cheers.—] <span style="color:green;font-family:Rockwell">(])</span> 12:44, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

⚫ == External Link to Strategy Management for IT Services (ITSM) ==

I have observed that Misplaced Pages doesn't have an article on Strategy Management for IT Services (ITSM), listed under Service Strategy Heading.<br>
I have a good article on this topic: Strategy Management for IT Services (ITSM)<br>
As my website is new I'm not putting the link directly in the main article. I'd request other editors to create/improve this Misplaced Pages article with help of the article link given below:<br>
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If you found the above article helpful, then please put the link in the main article as external link.--] (]) 10:47, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

== ITIL v4: it seems to be "change enablement" rather than "change control" ==


The article speaks about the "change control" practice in ITIL v4 and states that this name has changed compared to previous versions.
== Notability ? Usage and Case Studies ==


The ITIL Foundation Guide (Limited, AXELOS. ITIL Foundation: ITIL 4 Edition . The Stationery Office Ltd. Kindle Edition.) speaks about "change enablement" rather than "change control".
This article seems to be pure theory restating what ITIL is and says nothing to the extent that the framework has been adopted in practice and how widespread is its use. I think it needs some examples of notable organisations and details of how the best framework has been implemented and some factual statistics. Otherwise, on its own it is meaningless. It could be published by a government department but lots of documents are published by government departments that have zero notability or credibility. How many users are certified at least basic level ? For all readers know only Bob's bookstore in Tuvalu uses the thing .... --] (]) 01:24, 6 December 2012 (UTC)


This may have changed during the development of v4. I'm not closely involved with the ITIL standard, so I didn't just want to make the change in the text without being sure of what really is the definitive term.
:I think, there shall be no examples, how to implement ITIL. Why? Every organisation have to do it's "own" ITIL implementation. For this, we can include some hint about the facts about implementing. The idea about information around certified persons is nice. For the we need sources about the numbers and at least an annually review. --] (]) 14:49, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
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While ITIL was started in the it has since become an international standard adopted everywhere. Should the article be re-written to remove British English? I'm not sure of the arguments pro or con in this area. --Jasenlee (talk) 17:37, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

No. Why would any other variety of English be more suitable? --Michig (talk) 17:46, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
No; see MOS:RETAIN --hulmem (talk) 15:53, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
Most of the British English has been removed from the ITIL guidance already. The exams have had all of the language specific to the UK removed for some time now. The reason is very simple, and has already been stated -- it is used around the world. Keeping British colloquialisms and UK-specific spellings of words like "whilst" makes no sense.Flybd5 (talk) 12:55, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
If you're going to remove 'British English', why not remove French or German whilst you are about it? It makes no sense, as you say, if you can write everything in American. Fustbariclation (talk) 10:59, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

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External Link to Strategy Management for IT Services (ITSM)

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Strategy Management for IT Services (ITSM)
If you found the above article helpful, then please put the link in the main article as external link.--AyanBrahmachary (talk) 10:47, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

ITIL v4: it seems to be "change enablement" rather than "change control"

The article speaks about the "change control" practice in ITIL v4 and states that this name has changed compared to previous versions.

The ITIL Foundation Guide (Limited, AXELOS. ITIL Foundation: ITIL 4 Edition . The Stationery Office Ltd. Kindle Edition.) speaks about "change enablement" rather than "change control".

This may have changed during the development of v4. I'm not closely involved with the ITIL standard, so I didn't just want to make the change in the text without being sure of what really is the definitive term. Ob71 (talk) 13:42, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

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