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	== "A recent study shows that 23% of Indian business school graduates take a job in United States" ?==
	I doubt that. Can some one please verify. ? <small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 11:41, 10 October 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	== Fareed Zakaria ==

	Why is Fareed not a featured Indian American? He is certainly the most prominent and visible Indian working in mainstream media. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 16:39, 19 June 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


	I'm not sure. I think this article is seriously crippled if we don't include people who were born in India but are now American citizens. It doesn't make sense. They are Indian Americans. Chinese-born Americans are included in the Chinese Americans article. Philippines-born Americans are included in the Filipino Americans article. Japanese-born Americans are included in the Japanese Americans article.
	In addition, all of the demographic data cited in this article refer to all people of Indian ancestry, including those who were born in India. We can't limit the article to focus just on America-born Indian-Americans if we include demographic data that is broader than that category.
	Someone please fix this article to be what it was before someone removed all Indian-born Americans.
	] (]) 07:41, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

	Fareed Zakaria and his two PIO CNN colleagues (] and ]) are the three most prominent Indian American newsmen (hell they are overall the most well known Asian American newsmen), at least one of them should be pictured here. ] (]) 04:09, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

	== First Indian Americans ==

	The following reference mentions that Indian Americans have been in what is now the United States since before the American Revolutionary War:
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	Hope this reference is useful to active users here. G'day! --] (]) 19:30, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

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	== Immigration and progression timeline ==

	Should the section ''Immigration and progression timeline'' be in the history section?

	If there is no opposition by 18 May 2013, I will be ] making it a subsection of history.--] (]) 14:05, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

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	== Oldest Indian-American communities ==
	Although not stated in the article, one can read about Indian-American communities going back a century (1915?) in California, centered in ] (] and Lodi), ] (]-Marysville), ] from ] to ] near ], and ] counties (a.k.a the ]). The small but evident Indian immigrants were processed in ] off San Francisco, but came regulations of all Asians in the 1920s which lasted until the 1965 Immigration Reform Act ended racial restrictions. The first arrivals (see ]) were from the ] region (now states) in British India (now ] and ]), consists of Hindus, Muslims and some ] (the US' oldest Hindu and Sikh temples can be found in Stockton and Yuba City areas), under farm labor contracts to work in farmlands in these areas. Over time, the mostly male farm workers found local Hispanic/] women to marry and have children with (see ]). ] (]) 07:01, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

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	== Language box list ==

	I've noticed for the last few months, there have been factual inaccuracies in the infobox's language list. The top three listed in the sources addressed are Hindi, Gujarati, and Punjabi. It would be superfluous to list every single included in the source, so the top three should be the primary ones to include. There is large percent decrease between 3 (Punjabi) and 4 (Telegu), so the top 3 is the best to suffice. Please don't include your own language just because you want to. This is a list of languages prominently spoken among Indian Americans; it is based on the languages spoken in America, not what is common in India. ] (]) 02:29, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

	: Fair enough, but a number of readers seem offended by the short list which does not reflect the diversity of Indians in the US. Let us embrace diversity and show respect to all languages. Per ], I am going to add Bengali, Punjabi (which was replaced by Telugu), Tamil, and Urdu, and alphabetize the list rather than making it a popularity contest. In fact, an anonymous editor already added Tamil despite instructions to the contrary. Personally, I know some Tamils. I don't want to fight a Tamil guy. ] (]) 05:22, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

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	Evaluation of this article

	The Image of the Census of the Percentage of Asian Indians in the United States is a tad outdated as the last U.S. census was in 2010 and the image presented is from the 2010 U.S. Census.

	Some of the citations do not seem to work (i.e. 92,96, 108) and another seems to lead to an attack page(69).
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	== Percentage of grads cannot be mathematically correct ==

	There is a clear mathematical error in Section 5.1 Education: "39.1% of all Taiwanese in the United States possess a master's, doctorate or other professional degree, which is nearly four times the national average compared with 40% of Indians who have a master's, doctorate or other professional degree, which is five times the national average."

	If 39.1% is nearly (i.e., less than) 4x the national average, then 40% can clearly not be 5x the national average. Assuming that the primary sources are accurately cited, either the information from at least one of the primary sources is incorrect, or the statistic in question (i.e., "the national average") is not defined in the same manner across the primary sources.

	] (]) 07:08, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

	== How do Sri Lankans fit in with Indians in the US? ==

	Sri Lankans in Canada, Europe, South-East Asia, and Australia usually "merge" with the Indian community to the point that a lot of them don't identify as "Sri Lankan".

	The "Sri Lankan Tamils" only really exists for political reasons relating to Tamil politics on the island, and is predominantly used by first generationers with direct interests in the country. The second generation usually merge with Indians/Hindus - in contrast to Pakistanis and often Bangladeshis. I would think that this needed to be pointed out.

			== Misleading use of "Indian" term in data ==
	I notice that they have similarly high economic status too: $73,856 for Sri Lankans. ] (]) 22:09, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

			So far as I can tell, the US Census bureau uses the term "Asian Indian" for anyone of South Asian ancestry, but this page implies this is data for people of Indian ancestry. This also discredits the article's claim NYC has "by far" the biggest Indian-American population of any city in North America, because that would make it Toronto (https://en.wikipedia.org/Demographics_of_Toronto#City_of_Toronto).
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			While it's true that not all South Asians are Indians, anecdotally as someone who used to live in Surrey the overwhelming majority of South Asians there are Indian (specifically from the Punjab region).
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	==Kamala Harris==
	Why is Kamala Harris identified in this article as an Indian-American? Her mother may be Indian, but her father is Afro-Jamaican and ethnic identity is passed on patrilinnealy. She also clearly self-identifies as African-American rather than Indian-American. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/kamala-harris-embraces-exclusive-blackness-at-the-expense-of-her-indian-heritage
	So I'd suggest removing her mention from this article. Nobody identifies Obama as Scots-Irish American because of his mother's ethnicity. You are either one or the other. I don't want to get into an edit war over this, so I'll leave it to others for reaching a consensus and doing the needful. ] 07:09, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
	:{{re\|Joyson Konkani}} {{tq\|and ethnic identity is passed on patrilinnealy}} - what's your basis for this claim? Do you have a source? As a mixed-race person, I find that claim rather interesting. ] (]) 22:27, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
	:: {{re\|Guettarda}} Isn't this supposed to be general knowledge? That's how things are globally. Why? Because of patriarchy! We take our fathers surname, and so we assume his ethnicity as well. This is why Obama is seen as "black" and not "Scots-Irish". Your paternal lineage defines what you are. That's the general custom, barring exceptions like Jews and Tuaregs. I will leave it to others to arrive at a consensus on whether to remove mention of Kamala Harris from this page. On my part, I'm against her inclusion. ] 03:48, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
	:::{{re\|Joyson Konkani}} Again, you're making assertions without evidence. That's ''not'' the way it works in immigrant societies in particular. Obama isn't a good example anyway - white identities aren't really available to non-white people in America. Lenny Kravitz would a good counter-example - he's African American despite having a white father. ] (]) 14:32, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
	:::: Well, it's a norm you learn about just by being alive. Lenny Kravitz's dad is an Ashkenazi Jew, and Jews are a rare exception to the norm, as according to Halakha, the Jewish identity is considered passed through the mother. I'm not pressing this further. I've made my case and position clear. I'll leave it to the others to have a consensus. ] 15:01, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
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Misleading use of "Indian" term in data

So far as I can tell, the US Census bureau uses the term "Asian Indian" for anyone of South Asian ancestry, but this page implies this is data for people of Indian ancestry. This also discredits the article's claim NYC has "by far" the biggest Indian-American population of any city in North America, because that would make it Toronto (https://en.wikipedia.org/Demographics_of_Toronto#City_of_Toronto).

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Old data in this article

This article shows only data from 2010. There has been another Census. When can data from 2020 be included? - - Prairieplant (talk) 19:41, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Highest concentration of Indians in the Western hemisphere?

From the current version of the article (June 7th 2023):

"India Square, in the heart of Bombay, Jersey City, New Jersey, home to the highest concentration of Asian Indians in the Western Hemisphere"

Even without doing in-depth research on this topic, Surrey, BC (population 600+ thousand) has 38% of the city being of South Asian heritage. Source: Misplaced Pages

Surrey, British Columbia

While it's true that not all South Asians are Indians, anecdotally as someone who used to live in Surrey the overwhelming majority of South Asians there are Indian (specifically from the Punjab region).

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