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== Aeroflot suspension ==
==Houston Bush==


Aeroflot service shouldnt be removed as their is no indication that service wont return
Changed the shorthand name "Houston-Intercontinental" to "Houston-Bush" in the listing of destinations, because that Houston airport's official name was changed several years ago to George Bush Intercontinental Airport" and the shorter "Houston-Bush" is the most common shorthand name used now.
] (]) 18:54, 2 March 2022 (UTC)


In agreement here, similar to COVID suspensions there’s nothing telling us the routes won’t come back when the Russian situation is resolved. I’d say just leaving the route with ‘suspended’ is fine (] (]) 23:57, 2 March 2022 (UTC))
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Depends on your politics. Some people still call it "Washington National" and "Houston Intercontinental". ] (]) 14:06, 4 December 2019 (UTC)


:Russian Airplanes are banned from entering United States Airspace therefore Aeroflot cannot fly into JFK ] (]) 22:20, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
== Hatnote way too long ==


::Sure, they’re banned right now but there’s nothing telling us that the routes won’t come back eventually. No need to remove them when we can just list them as suspended. (] (]) 05:28, 10 March 2022 (UTC))
We must trim this beast down! The body text and infobox don't even appear on the first screen on smaller monitors. It's ridiculous. We don't need to call out Laguardia and Newark specifically, we can point the reader to ]. And the more obscure stuff like a Bolivian airport that hasn't had the name in decades (and never really used it, to the point where it isn't even mentioned in that article's lead) does not need to be in the hatnote. ] (]) 00:14, 25 April 2019 (UTC)


Safe to say any mentioned Aeroflot return now borders on ]. Sure they may 'come back' someday, but without a firm date due to the political/war situation out there, it's very much breaches CRYSTALBALL (and trumps any WikiProject Guideline/rules) at this point. ] (]) 09:55, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
== Photographs of Idlewild (from LOC in public domain) ==


:I agree. This is clearly a situation where the return of service would require a significant change to come back any time soon. They're more than just suspended, they're banned. If the chart is supposed to represent the current routes at the airport, including routes that haven't flown for over a year and would require a major change in real-world geopolitical events to begin again doesn't fulfill that purpose. There's no reason for keeping them here without engaging in CRYSTALBALL speculation. ] (]) 00:59, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
The Library of Congress has a number of public domain collections that might be useful illustrating the history of the airport. In particular, the NY World-Telegram had photos that it took at the airport that (unlike UPI photos) actually would have been donated into the public domain. The Korb Collection also has architecture photos. http://www.loc.gov/pictures/search/?q=%20Airport%20Idlewild ] (]) 22:51, 12 November 2019 (UTC)


== Major robberies section ==
== ''New York–JFK'' vs. ''New York–Kennedy'' ==


Like to propose adding that the robberies/ heists covered under this section inspired the 1990 film Goodfellas. ] (]) 20:46, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
When looking at the "Airlines and destinations" table in all airport articles, cities with multiple airports are typically written as ''City–Airport Name'' (e.g., Paris–Charles de Gaulle, Milan–Malpensa, Chicago–O'Hare). This makes sense. What I do not see is the three-letter airport code. If Paris is Paris–Charles de Gaulle and not Paris–CDG, why isn't this airport New York–Kennedy in the airline table? Flights are also listed as "New York–Kennedy" when the three-letter code is not used (e.g., "Los Angeles, CA, to New York–Kennedy, NY"). Thoughts? --] (]) 02:36, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
:Because "JFK" isn't just the three-letter code, but the common short name for the airport and for the man it's named after. People use the term in daily use. ] (]) 10:59, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

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Aeroflot suspension

Aeroflot service shouldnt be removed as their is no indication that service wont return DisneyAviationRollerCoasterEnthusiast (talk) 18:54, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

In agreement here, similar to COVID suspensions there’s nothing telling us the routes won’t come back when the Russian situation is resolved. I’d say just leaving the route with ‘suspended’ is fine (VenFlyer98 (talk) 23:57, 2 March 2022 (UTC))

Russian Airplanes are banned from entering United States Airspace therefore Aeroflot cannot fly into JFK 108.50.206.142 (talk) 22:20, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
Sure, they’re banned right now but there’s nothing telling us that the routes won’t come back eventually. No need to remove them when we can just list them as suspended. (VenFlyer98 (talk) 05:28, 10 March 2022 (UTC))

Safe to say any mentioned Aeroflot return now borders on WP:CRYSTALBALL. Sure they may 'come back' someday, but without a firm date due to the political/war situation out there, it's very much breaches CRYSTALBALL (and trumps any WikiProject Guideline/rules) at this point. Coastie43 (talk) 09:55, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

I agree. This is clearly a situation where the return of service would require a significant change to come back any time soon. They're more than just suspended, they're banned. If the chart is supposed to represent the current routes at the airport, including routes that haven't flown for over a year and would require a major change in real-world geopolitical events to begin again doesn't fulfill that purpose. There's no reason for keeping them here without engaging in CRYSTALBALL speculation. oknazevad (talk) 00:59, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Major robberies section

Like to propose adding that the robberies/ heists covered under this section inspired the 1990 film Goodfellas. 173.59.118.212 (talk) 20:46, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

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