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			== Aeroflot suspension ==
	Is it entirely on the coast of the bay, or is part of it actually in the bay? (Did they extend a runway beyond the natural coastline onto landfill that they dumped in the bay?)

			Aeroflot service shouldnt be removed as their is no indication that service wont return
	== Name ==
			] (]) 18:54, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

			In agreement here, similar to COVID suspensions there’s nothing telling us the routes won’t come back when the Russian situation is resolved. I’d say just leaving the route with ‘suspended’ is fine (] (]) 23:57, 2 March 2022 (UTC))
	I think that this page should be renamed to the fuller "John F. Kennedy International Airport", since the airport is also well known under this name. ] 00:57, 19 Nov 2003 (UTC)

			:Russian Airplanes are banned from entering United States Airspace therefore Aeroflot cannot fly into JFK ] (]) 22:20, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

			::Sure, they’re banned right now but there’s nothing telling us that the routes won’t come back eventually. No need to remove them when we can just list them as suspended. (] (]) 05:28, 10 March 2022 (UTC))
	== Terminals ==

			Safe to say any mentioned Aeroflot return now borders on ]. Sure they may 'come back' someday, but without a firm date due to the political/war situation out there, it's very much breaches CRYSTALBALL (and trumps any WikiProject Guideline/rules) at this point. ] (]) 09:55, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
	I added a new short stub relating to the Pan AM worldport called ]. i also added some information related to the architects of the Worldport in the kennedy main article, and am wondering because there is so much info on the individual terminals, they might need their own longer articles and need to pull out that sort of information from the kennedy main article. As info is added on the structures, they might get too long. For instance, the TWA terminal deserves a very long wikipedia article, as it has been written about alot through the years. ] 12:14, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

			:I agree. This is clearly a situation where the return of service would require a significant change to come back any time soon. They're more than just suspended, they're banned. If the chart is supposed to represent the current routes at the airport, including routes that haven't flown for over a year and would require a major change in real-world geopolitical events to begin again doesn't fulfill that purpose. There's no reason for keeping them here without engaging in CRYSTALBALL speculation. ] (]) 00:59, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

	== ~~Tragedy~~ ==		== Major robberies section ==

			Like to propose adding that the robberies/ heists covered under this section inspired the 1990 film Goodfellas. ] (]) 20:46, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
	The word '''tragedy''' has been in the article since the first version. I strongly disagree with those who state that it is POV. Are we now required not to offend al-Qaeda supporters? ] 23:21, Apr 13, 2004 (UTC)

	Its not necessary to call it a tragedy. Let the reader decide if September 11 was a tragedy or not. ] 23:32, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)

	It may be tragic, but the word Tragedy suggests a certain amount of inevitability. ] 14:35, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

	==Why was this moved?==
	Is there a reason "New York/" was added? That does not seem to be part of the official or common name. --] (]) 23:46, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
	:I have moved it back, after finding no evidence of a name change. --] (]) 00:06, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
	::I was just about to do the same. That was exactly the right thing to do. ] 00:13, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

	There are three airports in the New York area and to avoid confusion with which one. Like O'Hare is Chicago O'Hare. ] 19:14, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
	::Yep, but they don't do that in New York. ] 20:19, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

	== The Christopher Elliot comment ==

	Does this deserve to be here? I did a Google search on him, and the results were weak, at best. ] 18:44, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

	==Significant Presence==
	I've removed the line that BA has a significant presence and someone has been restoring it. Being the leading non-US carrier out of Kennedy does not earn British Airways special mention. They have 8 flights a day to their hubs (7 to London, 1 to Manchester). American, United, and Air Canada each have 10-11 flights a day out of Heathrow and SAS has 20, so do they have a significant presence there? ] 22:36, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

	I sort of think that while BA only has a certain number of flights, maybe it continues to be reinserted because they have a name at the top of the terminal. it does indicate they have a larger presence than other international carriers, but see both points] 12:07, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

	==New York-JFK or New York-Kennedy??==
	When listing the destinations of airlines that fly to this airport, what is the best designation for JFK? New York-JFK or New York-Kennedy? I think that the designation should be listed as "New York-JFK" because every single airport article on Wiki have "New York-JFK" as the designation for JFK Airport. What are your suggestions? ] 20:18, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
	:I'd go for New York-JFK, since I don't think people say "I'm flying from Kennedy to XXX" but rather "I'm flying from JFK to XXX". ] 21:46, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
	::Okay, because I saw one user kept putting the designation "New York-Kennedy" instead of "New York-JFK" under the airport articles Louis Armstrong New Orleans International Airport and Austin Bergstrom International Airport but I have switched it back from "New York-Kennedy" to "New York-JFK". ] 22:15, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
	:Kennedy or JFK are both acceptable according to Wiki:Airports Talk page. I would stick with Kennedy, though, since other cities with multiple airports don't use the codes. Such as Hobby, LaGuardia, O'Hare, Midway, Intercontinental, Dulles, etc., etc. ] 01:05, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
	::I agree but I would recommend looking at all the airport articles and see that "New York-JFK" is used and not "New York-Kennedy". But you can feel free to change them all to Kennedy but I think it will look weird. ] 02:22, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
	::It would be easier to change this sole code JFK to Kennedy than to change LaGuardia to LGA, Dulles to IAD, Hobby to HOU, O'Hare to ORD,... ] 04:42, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
	::What exactly is the determining factor in naming the airport? IMHO, it should be named according to what it is more commonly known. It just happens that JFK is known by its IATA code. Can there be a vote on this if it is an issue? ] 05:55, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

	== SriLankan Airlines (Formerly Air Lanka) ==

	What terminal does SriLankan Airlines (Formerly Air Lanka) go to? I did not see it in the list of airlines at each terminal.
	] 04:58, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

	:AFAIK, JFK is not a destination of UL. It only codeshares with EK on flights to JFK. ] 07:27, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

	== Chairs ==

	Are the chairs in other terminals as impossible to sit in without slouching down & compressing your spine as they are in Terminal 7? --] 04:04, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

	== Abandoned Runways ==

	There are at least 3 abandoned runways at JFK that have been converted to taxiways. They've always looked obvious to me from the airport diagram. I've only seen mention of them on an airliners.net discussions board which is not reliable enough to use as a source. If anyone has more info on them with a definitive source we may want to include it in the article. Taxiway L and a section of taxiway Y were runway 7R/25L. This runway was abandoned either after Worldport was constructed or expanded. The instrument approach lights for it were mounted on wood pilings extended into Jamaica Bay. The wood pilings are still there and easiy visible on Google Earth. Taxiway Z was once runway 1R/19L. Taxiway E was a commuter plane runway 14/32 and only recently converted to a taxiway. Runways 7L/25R and 1L/19R have been completely built over though.

	] 02:45, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

	==Destinations ==

	Doesn't United operate a direct flight to Tokyo-Narita (UA891 via LAX) and a direct flight to Melbourne (UA839 via LAX and SYD) so shouldn't these be included as they're direct flights?] 13:31, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
	:also US Airways flies JFK-LAS-DEN (US601 operated by America West) so should that be included too?] 13:34, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
	::United also flies to Hong Kong from JFK (direct flight, UA891 JFK-LAX-NRT-HKG) so should that be included too?] 13:38, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
	:::UA also has a direct flight to Seoul-Incheon (UA893 via SFO) so should that go in too?] 13:41, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
	::::US airways flies JFK-LAS-SAN (US532 operated by America West-does that go in too?] 13:43, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

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Aeroflot suspension

Aeroflot service shouldnt be removed as their is no indication that service wont return DisneyAviationRollerCoasterEnthusiast (talk) 18:54, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

In agreement here, similar to COVID suspensions there’s nothing telling us the routes won’t come back when the Russian situation is resolved. I’d say just leaving the route with ‘suspended’ is fine (VenFlyer98 (talk) 23:57, 2 March 2022 (UTC))

Russian Airplanes are banned from entering United States Airspace therefore Aeroflot cannot fly into JFK 108.50.206.142 (talk) 22:20, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Sure, they’re banned right now but there’s nothing telling us that the routes won’t come back eventually. No need to remove them when we can just list them as suspended. (VenFlyer98 (talk) 05:28, 10 March 2022 (UTC))

Safe to say any mentioned Aeroflot return now borders on WP:CRYSTALBALL. Sure they may 'come back' someday, but without a firm date due to the political/war situation out there, it's very much breaches CRYSTALBALL (and trumps any WikiProject Guideline/rules) at this point. Coastie43 (talk) 09:55, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

I agree. This is clearly a situation where the return of service would require a significant change to come back any time soon. They're more than just suspended, they're banned. If the chart is supposed to represent the current routes at the airport, including routes that haven't flown for over a year and would require a major change in real-world geopolitical events to begin again doesn't fulfill that purpose. There's no reason for keeping them here without engaging in CRYSTALBALL speculation. oknazevad (talk) 00:59, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Major robberies section

Like to propose adding that the robberies/ heists covered under this section inspired the 1990 film Goodfellas. 173.59.118.212 (talk) 20:46, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

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