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==Two Birthplaces?== | |||
Intro paragraph says he was born in Narail, which is in present-day Bangladesh, while in the Early Life section it says he was born in Benares, a city in India. I think the fact is that his father was from Narail, and the family was living in Benares at that time. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 17:59, 3 May 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
== Pundit == | |||
⚫ | The name should be Pundit Ravi Shankar, that is how he is known. There is hardly anybody who ever knew of him as just Ravi Hsnakar (There may be thousands of Ravi Shankar at any given time) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 10:32, 18 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | ||
:It's usually spelled ] and there's an explanation in this article in . But I don't think honorary titles like this are generally used as part of the name. Given that this has been a ], I'd be surprised if it hasn't already been carefully considered. Perhaps it's ok to use just in the article opening sentence and infobox, but not as the article title? Any views? ] (]) 12:39, 30 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Anoushka--absurd statement == | |||
The article says: "After separating from Kamala Shastri in 1981, Anoushka Shankar was born to Shankar and Sukanya Rajan."<br /> | |||
How could Anoushka Shankar have separated from anybody before she was born? ] (]) 19:17, 15 November 2013 (UTC)<br /> | |||
Now says "After Shankar separated from Kamala Shastri in 1981, Anoushka Shankar was born to Shankar and Sukanya Rajan", Anoushka's birth is given as 9th June 1981, if you are understandable trying to gloss over a little hanky-panky in the man's life, which is not relevant to his artistry only to a gossip mag , why not remove the whole statement altogether? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 15:52, 5 October 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:No, it was a grammar point. The way the statement was written, it said that Anoushka separated from Kamala Shastra before Anoushka was born. Of course it should have said Ravi separated from Kamala. But it didn't. It said Anoushka was born after ANOUSHKA separated from Kamala. ] (]) 13:53, 27 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
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:That is a different person. See ] for the person who passed. --] (]) 16:05, 8 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
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::Yes this is a surprising coincidence, but there were TWO Ravi Shankars. Ravi Shankar, the subject of this page, and the famous sitarist, died on the 11th December, 2012, aged 92. The other one - Ravi Shankar Sharma - died on the 7th December, 2012, aged 86. He too had had a long career in music, as a film composer. | |||
::Bongwarrior above means that Ravi Shankar Sharma is the OTHER Ravi Shankar, not the one dealt with on this page.] (]) 12:24, 12 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
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In his message of condolence concerning the death of Ravi Shankar, the President of India used the verb “to condole” in a way it cannot be used. To say “has condoled the passing” is incorrect English. Similarly, article text that reads "His death was condoled by" is incorrect. I suggest this be revised to "Condolences have been extended by". ] (]) 15:56, 12 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
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I reverted because the part about Western audiences is redundant to the existing lead, it overemphasizes the Indian National Orchestra at AIR, which only has that name but does not actually hold the rank of a national institution or works for the President or Parliament as far as I can see, and introduces a grammatical error. I also removed a longer quote about Anoushka, who has her own article. ] (]) 16:11, 20 May 2012 (UTC) | |||
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==East Meets West Music== | |||
I added this as a record label after noticing it in the External links section, but it makes sense that he recorded on todaw | |||
other record labels, regardless of which act on the CD, I just don't have time right now so, in case I can't address .--] (]) 13:40, 12 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
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== ''Transmigration Macabre'' == | |||
== "sitar maestro" == | |||
In the absence of any article for it, I tried to add a mention of the 1973 soundtrack album ''Transmigration Macabre'' which is already included in the discography, thus: . But this was rapidly reverted with an edit summary “rm content without reliable source”. I had thought discogs.com was an uncontroversial source here. I wonder if anyone could provide a better source (or indeed could provide any more information about that obscure UK film “Viola”)? Could the album sleeve notes themselves be used as a better source perhaps? Thanks. ] (]) 15:06, 12 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
:The album is the 1973 ] SRLM 2002. The sleeve notes (uncredited), on my copy, say "Shankar composed Transmigration Macabre for the British art film Viola which tells of the growth and eventual victory of a possessed man's belief that his dead wife has returned to life in the form of a cat that pursues him. The music traces his emotional turmoil as the man, dominated by his wife during her lifetime, struggles against her baneful influence after her death." The sleeve also credits the film producer as R. Davies, but I can find no trace of him here, or even on the net. I have added brief details at the Shankar discography. Perhaps that's all that's needed. Or perhaps the album deserves its own article? ] (]) 19:38, 12 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
Is "sitar maestro" actually used as a title, and not just a description or part of an introduction? If not, the statement in the lede that those words often precede Shankar's name are puffery and should be rephrased to simply state that he is (or is regarded as) a maestro. ] (]) 00:11, 29 March 2020 (UTC) | |||
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'''Note''': I moved this here so it's not spread across user talk pages ] (]) 23:50, 12 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
:That's a distinction without a difference. He's a maestro, he's regarded as a maestro. It would be puffery if he were a hack, which he's not. ] (]) 09:47, 7 April 2020 (UTC) | |||
Hi. With regards to : does it matter that he did not use it? He still had the title. And also, what evidence do we have that he did not want to use the title? As far as I can see e.g. external sources mention his KBE. Thanks, --]'''''<small>]</small>''''' 23:20, 12 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
:He has so many titles, we would have to list his honorary doctorates, which are actual titles, and, because they much higher honors and from his home country, maybe list him as Padmavibhushan Ravi Shankar or Bharatratna Ravi Shankar (the Bharat Ratna even puts you in the order of precedence). When I google "ravi shankar kbe", the honorary knighthood mention of the UK Parliament is about all that pops up and the recent obituary flood does not appear to mention him as a KBE but mentions title separately if at all. ] (]) 23:50, 12 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
::It's just that it seems conventional to list these type of titles (see e.g. ] who is in the same situation). Do you know if there's a policy about this? --]'''''<small>]</small>''''' 23:58, 12 December 2012 (UTC) |
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Two Birthplaces?
Intro paragraph says he was born in Narail, which is in present-day Bangladesh, while in the Early Life section it says he was born in Benares, a city in India. I think the fact is that his father was from Narail, and the family was living in Benares at that time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.242.217.46 (talk) 17:59, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Pundit
The name should be Pundit Ravi Shankar, that is how he is known. There is hardly anybody who ever knew of him as just Ravi Hsnakar (There may be thousands of Ravi Shankar at any given time) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.214.251.14 (talk) 10:32, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
- It's usually spelled Pandit and there's an explanation in this article in The Daily Telegraph. But I don't think honorary titles like this are generally used as part of the name. Given that this has been a Good Article, I'd be surprised if it hasn't already been carefully considered. Perhaps it's ok to use just in the article opening sentence and infobox, but not as the article title? Any views? Martinevans123 (talk) 12:39, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
Anoushka--absurd statement
The article says: "After separating from Kamala Shastri in 1981, Anoushka Shankar was born to Shankar and Sukanya Rajan."
How could Anoushka Shankar have separated from anybody before she was born? Uporządnicki (talk) 19:17, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
Now says "After Shankar separated from Kamala Shastri in 1981, Anoushka Shankar was born to Shankar and Sukanya Rajan", Anoushka's birth is given as 9th June 1981, if you are understandable trying to gloss over a little hanky-panky in the man's life, which is not relevant to his artistry only to a gossip mag , why not remove the whole statement altogether? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.10.206.106 (talk) 15:52, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
- No, it was a grammar point. The way the statement was written, it said that Anoushka separated from Kamala Shastra before Anoushka was born. Of course it should have said Ravi separated from Kamala. But it didn't. It said Anoushka was born after ANOUSHKA separated from Kamala. Uporządnicki (talk) 13:53, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
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"sitar maestro"
Is "sitar maestro" actually used as a title, and not just a description or part of an introduction? If not, the statement in the lede that those words often precede Shankar's name are puffery and should be rephrased to simply state that he is (or is regarded as) a maestro. 73.149.246.232 (talk) 00:11, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- That's a distinction without a difference. He's a maestro, he's regarded as a maestro. It would be puffery if he were a hack, which he's not. Binksternet (talk) 09:47, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
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