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==Two Birthplaces?== ==Two Birthplaces?==


Intro paragraph says he was born in Narail, which is in present-day Bangladesh, while in the Early Life section it says he was born in Benares, a city in India. I think the fact is that his father was from Narail, and the family was living in Benares at that time. Intro paragraph says he was born in Narail, which is in present-day Bangladesh, while in the Early Life section it says he was born in Benares, a city in India. I think the fact is that his father was from Narail, and the family was living in Benares at that time. <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 17:59, 3 May 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== KBE == == Pundit ==
⚫ The name should be Pundit Ravi Shankar, that is how he is known. There is hardly anybody who ever knew of him as just Ravi Hsnakar (There may be thousands of Ravi Shankar at any given time) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 10:32, 18 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:It's usually spelled ] and there's an explanation in this article in . But I don't think honorary titles like this are generally used as part of the name. Given that this has been a ], I'd be surprised if it hasn't already been carefully considered. Perhaps it's ok to use just in the article opening sentence and infobox, but not as the article title? Any views? ] (]) 12:39, 30 December 2016 (UTC)


⚫ == Anoushka--absurd statement ==
'''Note''': I moved this here so it's not spread across user talk pages ] (]) 23:50, 12 December 2012 (UTC)


⚫ The article says: "After separating from Kamala Shastri in 1981, Anoushka Shankar was born to Shankar and Sukanya Rajan."<br />
Hi. With regards to : does it matter that he did not use it? He still had the title. And also, what evidence do we have that he did not want to use the title? As far as I can see e.g. external sources mention his KBE. Thanks, --]'''''<small>]</small>''''' 23:20, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
⚫ How could Anoushka Shankar have separated from anybody before she was born? ] (]) 19:17, 15 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
:He has so many titles, we would have to list his honorary doctorates, which are actual titles, and, because they much higher honors and from his home country, maybe list him as Padmavibhushan Ravi Shankar or Bharatratna Ravi Shankar (the Bharat Ratna even puts you in the order of precedence). When I google "ravi shankar kbe", the honorary knighthood mention of the UK Parliament is about all that pops up and the recent obituary flood does not appear to mention him as a KBE but mentions title separately if at all. ] (]) 23:50, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
::It's just that it seems conventional to list these type of titles (see e.g. ] who is in the same situation). Do you know if there's a policy about this? --]'''''<small>]</small>''''' 23:58, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
:::] and ] are the closest things we have to policy regarding this. ]&nbsp;<sup>(]&#124;])</sup> 23:15, 15 December 2012 (UTC)


⚫ Now says "After Shankar separated from Kamala Shastri in 1981, Anoushka Shankar was born to Shankar and Sukanya Rajan", Anoushka's birth is given as 9th June 1981, if you are understandable trying to gloss over a little hanky-panky in the man's life, which is not relevant to his artistry only to a gossip mag , why not remove the whole statement altogether? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 15:52, 5 October 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:No, it was a grammar point. The way the statement was written, it said that Anoushka separated from Kamala Shastra before Anoushka was born. Of course it should have said Ravi separated from Kamala. But it didn't. It said Anoushka was born after ANOUSHKA separated from Kamala. ] (]) 13:53, 27 August 2015 (UTC)


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⚫ The name should be Pundit Ravi Shankar, that is how he is known. There is hardly anybody who ever knew of him as just Ravi Hsnakar (There may be thousands of Ravi Shankar at any given time) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 10:32, 18 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


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== 1956-69: International career section ==


Cheers.—] <span style="color:green;font-family:Rockwell">(])</span> 01:53, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
In the fourth para of this section, there's a mention of Howard Worth's ''Raga'' being filmed during George Harrison's visit to India in Sept–Oct 1966; that's supported by a NY Times ref, which I'm not able to access. Would be good if someone could check perhaps, because I've always understood it that ''Raga'' was filmed mainly in 1967–68. In his autobiography, George says he was meant to join Ravi in the south of India after The Beatles' (well, him and Lennon) left Rishikesh in April 1968 (i.e., two Indian trips later); but George got dysentery, which is why his scene with Ravi had to be shot later, at Esalen in June '68. Having said that, this is only the Harrison side of things – perhaps shooting did begin in 1966?) Also, might be worth mentioning that Harrison salvaged the project (by offering Apple Films and producing the soundtrack) in late 1970, when the original backers pulled out? Howard Worth's very generous about this, from memory, in a . (It's a long clip, but lovely if you're in the mood – and have the time.) ] (]) 14:04, 27 February 2013 (UTC)


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⚫ The article says: "After separating from Kamala Shastri in 1981, Anoushka Shankar was born to Shankar and Sukanya Rajan."<br />

⚫ How could Anoushka Shankar have separated from anybody before she was born? ] (]) 19:17, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
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⚫ Now says "After Shankar separated from Kamala Shastri in 1981, Anoushka Shankar was born to Shankar and Sukanya Rajan", Anoushka's birth is given as 9th June 1981, if you are understandable trying to gloss over a little hanky-panky in the man's life, which is not relevant to his artistry only to a gossip mag , why not remove the whole statement altogether? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 15:52, 5 October 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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== "sitar maestro" ==


Is "sitar maestro" actually used as a title, and not just a description or part of an introduction? If not, the statement in the lede that those words often precede Shankar's name are puffery and should be rephrased to simply state that he is (or is regarded as) a maestro. ] (]) 00:11, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
== Hans Neuhoff material ==


I see that material by Hans Neuhoff was removed and then readded. I would leave this material out since Hans Neuhoff is non notable. --] (]) 14:58, 31 March 2014 (UTC) :That's a distinction without a difference. He's a maestro, he's regarded as a maestro. It would be puffery if he were a hack, which he's not. ] (]) 09:47, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
:What do you mean by "non notable"? '']'' is the kind of sources that are relevant for music articles, isn't it?--] (]) 21:31, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
::Who is Hans Neuhoff? Why is his opinion note worthy? --] (]) 23:54, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
:::He is notable enough to have written an article in a ] encyclopedia. Anyway, there is no wonder that a musician with no strong classical music training can be labelled as having an amateurish use of orchestra...Do you intend to remove any kind of criticism from the article?--] (]) 07:03, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

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Two Birthplaces?

Intro paragraph says he was born in Narail, which is in present-day Bangladesh, while in the Early Life section it says he was born in Benares, a city in India. I think the fact is that his father was from Narail, and the family was living in Benares at that time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.242.217.46 (talk) 17:59, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Pundit

The name should be Pundit Ravi Shankar, that is how he is known. There is hardly anybody who ever knew of him as just Ravi Hsnakar (There may be thousands of Ravi Shankar at any given time) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.214.251.14 (talk) 10:32, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

It's usually spelled Pandit and there's an explanation in this article in The Daily Telegraph. But I don't think honorary titles like this are generally used as part of the name. Given that this has been a Good Article, I'd be surprised if it hasn't already been carefully considered. Perhaps it's ok to use just in the article opening sentence and infobox, but not as the article title? Any views? Martinevans123 (talk) 12:39, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Anoushka--absurd statement

The article says: "After separating from Kamala Shastri in 1981, Anoushka Shankar was born to Shankar and Sukanya Rajan."
How could Anoushka Shankar have separated from anybody before she was born? Uporządnicki (talk) 19:17, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Now says "After Shankar separated from Kamala Shastri in 1981, Anoushka Shankar was born to Shankar and Sukanya Rajan", Anoushka's birth is given as 9th June 1981, if you are understandable trying to gloss over a little hanky-panky in the man's life, which is not relevant to his artistry only to a gossip mag , why not remove the whole statement altogether? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.10.206.106 (talk) 15:52, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

No, it was a grammar point. The way the statement was written, it said that Anoushka separated from Kamala Shastra before Anoushka was born. Of course it should have said Ravi separated from Kamala. But it didn't. It said Anoushka was born after ANOUSHKA separated from Kamala. Uporządnicki (talk) 13:53, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

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"sitar maestro"

Is "sitar maestro" actually used as a title, and not just a description or part of an introduction? If not, the statement in the lede that those words often precede Shankar's name are puffery and should be rephrased to simply state that he is (or is regarded as) a maestro. 73.149.246.232 (talk) 00:11, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

That's a distinction without a difference. He's a maestro, he's regarded as a maestro. It would be puffery if he were a hack, which he's not. Binksternet (talk) 09:47, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
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