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The American Imperialism page has actually gone too far in one direction. Whilst this talk page was initially created to speak regarding the softness of the article regarding the topic, the entire article has been revamped in the opposite direction. Thus, it is still not a neutral article. In most other professional and encyclopedic versions of articles I have read on Misplaced Pages, historians are cited occasionally to give a point of view, but in this article it is so cluttered with negative historical views of America's foreign policy, you miss out on the actual informative things. A standard middle school textbook does a better job than the current article, which desperately needs to be fixed. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 22:41, November 26, 2016 (UTC)</small> |
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The American Imperialism page has actually gone too far in one direction. Whilst this talk page was initially created to speak regarding the softness of the article regarding the topic, the entire article has been revamped in the opposite direction. Thus, it is still not a neutral article. In most other professional and encyclopedic versions of articles I have read on Misplaced Pages, historians are cited occasionally to give a point of view, but in this article it is so cluttered with negative historical views of America's foreign policy, you miss out on the actual informative things. A standard middle school textbook does a better job than the current article, which desperately needs to be fixed. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 22:41, November 26, 2016 (UTC)</small> |
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== The Allies of the United States section belongs on a separate page == |
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<span class="wikied-assignment" style="font-size:85%;">— Assignment last updated by ] (]) 01:37, 30 October 2022 (UTC)</span> |
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The Allies of the United States section belongs on a separate page as it is more general and contemporary than the topic of the American imperialism page itself. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 05:45, 23 February 2022 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== is nayirah-al-sabah an example of American Imperialism? == |
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== Neutrality and "Against" section == |
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yes no, and does it receive enough attention (WP:UNDUE ig) to have a mention in this article? ] (]) 05:12, 8 December 2022 (UTC) |
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The "against" section seems to ironically support the United States. It mentions the Mashall plan, how US "stabilized" South Korea and helped Vietnam with humanitarian aid. |
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It's also redacted as an original investigation.] (]) 15:42, 4 March 2022 (UTC) |
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== Expansion of timeline == |
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==External links relevant to the article that have been there for years suddenly removed due to suspected censorship for unknown motive== |
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: The following links in external links section which were there for years have been suddenly removed for unknown reasons. It could be due to censorship. It is unlikely that all 14 links were suddenly seen in violation of wiki rules and all removed at one go. There is good reason to believe that censorship is involved. |
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The timeline currently goes only up to the USA in Korea and Vietnam. Needs a massive edit to add everything after that, such as: |
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* by Richard Haass, 2000 |
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* by Martin Wolf, 2001 |
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* by Ivo H. Daalder and James M. Lindsay, 2003 |
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Iraq War, Afghanistan, Operation Condor, Grenada, Indonesia and US support of the coup there (Jakarta Method) among many others. ] (]) 21:23, 9 July 2023 (UTC) |
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] says that all of the links violate https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:External_links#Links_normally_to_be_avoided |
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and must be removed. I am unclear about the violation of these various links and I cannot accept such reasoning at face value. There is no explanation of how the 14 links violate the rules. I urge more debate and consensus reached before deleting these links which were there for years. |
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I will start with first link: |
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* by Richard Haass, 2000 |
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This links to a speech by Richard Haas giving his views on a New "Imperial America" in 2000. I see this as relevant to the topic of 'American Imperialism'. I don't get why this somehow violate the rules and must be removed. Can someone explain the reasoning as to why the link violated the rules and must be removed? We will start with this first link and go through the rest of the 14 links one by one until a consensus is reached on all 14 links. |
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] (]) 07:43, 24 July 2022 (UTC) |
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:Read ]. 14 links is excessive, ] is on you to justify their inclusion. None of these appear to meet ] and if they can be used as sources, they are clearly ]. Also, skip the censorship claim, it will get you nowhere and just annoy people. ] (]) 03:42, 3 August 2022 (UTC) |
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<span class="wikied-assignment" style="font-size:85%;">— Assignment last updated by ] (]) 01:37, 30 October 2022 (UTC)</span> |
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== 1800s American expansion through artistic expression == |
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I think that adding a section on how public opinion manifested itself in artistic expression with relation to American expansion would be beneficial in exploring responses and gauging the consensus at the time concerning American pursuits for territory. Looking into how C19th art was used to rally support and criticize US expansion will help conceptualize such a multifaceted period of time ] (]) 21:26, 22 December 2023 (UTC) |
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== is nayirah-al-sabah an example of American Imperialism? == |
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yes no, and does it receive enough attention (WP:UNDUE ig) to have a mention in this article? ] (]) 05:12, 8 December 2022 (UTC) |
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The American Imperialism page has actually gone too far in one direction. Whilst this talk page was initially created to speak regarding the softness of the article regarding the topic, the entire article has been revamped in the opposite direction. Thus, it is still not a neutral article. In most other professional and encyclopedic versions of articles I have read on Misplaced Pages, historians are cited occasionally to give a point of view, but in this article it is so cluttered with negative historical views of America's foreign policy, you miss out on the actual informative things. A standard middle school textbook does a better job than the current article, which desperately needs to be fixed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.7.66.150 (talk • contribs) 22:41, November 26, 2016 (UTC)
The timeline currently goes only up to the USA in Korea and Vietnam. Needs a massive edit to add everything after that, such as:
Iraq War, Afghanistan, Operation Condor, Grenada, Indonesia and US support of the coup there (Jakarta Method) among many others. Genabab (talk) 21:23, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
I think that adding a section on how public opinion manifested itself in artistic expression with relation to American expansion would be beneficial in exploring responses and gauging the consensus at the time concerning American pursuits for territory. Looking into how C19th art was used to rally support and criticize US expansion will help conceptualize such a multifaceted period of time Maisiesucks (talk) 21:26, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
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