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			== ''create page'' and paragraph: ] (usually tautological to ]) ==
	== Missing category ==
			prerequisites for ''strong theism''<br>
			(otherwise God or the gods might not be cosmogonic and cosmocentric )
			* self-causation/self-causality of ]
			* involvement of personhood in cosmogony

			=== details in French: L'auto-causalité et la cosmogonicité de le personnétat ===

			(Keep it because some English speakers speak French or use autotranslation. The main article has to be enriched.)

			Religiologiquement, l'auto-causalité et la cosmogonicité de l'état de la personne ( anglais : ''personhood'' ) sont les principaux éléments du théisme fort ( ''personocratie métaphysique'' et non un rôle secondaire au divin ). Si le personnétat ( l'état de la personne ) n'est pas en soi auto-causé et cosmogonique, dans ce cas Dieu a des ingrédients, et en aucun cas il n'est aisé de prouver qu'ils co-sythétisent un tout indivisible tandis qu'en étant séparé de son ] ( ousia ). ( Le personnétat est produit par un organe pensant, qui doit remplir de nombreuses conditions préalables ; voir : « Mary Anne Warren - the criteria of personhood ». Le cerveau humain utilise de nombreuses parties pour atteindre le personnétat ; voir : Nancy Kanwisher, Mark Solms. Les théistes ne fournissent aucune explication sur les mécanismes de l'âme. L'âme est un simple méréologique ( voir : méréologie, simple en philosophie ), elle est donc incapable de transmettre des informations plus d'un shannon ( unité d'information ), et elle est incapable d'exprimer différentes sous-routines comme les aires de Brodmann. ) Il est très difficile pour un Dieu avec des ingrédients discrets ( inévident et multisubstantiel ) d'être interprété comme l'origine de tout.

			Le Dieu impersonnel / athée, est un sophisme superficiel et une altération lexicale ( une confusion avec son antonyme généralement pour tromperie rhétorique ).

			________

			En philosophie, on ne peut prétendre avoir une vue supérieure qui reste injustifiée.

			== "charged particles in the neutron beam"????? ==

			Why, why, why on earth was the below citation placed under 'Autotheism'?
	If a theism is not ] or ] then what is it?

			I don't know who added it there but I'm sure there was a reason why.
	(pandeism and panendeism does not count)--] (]) 15:15, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

			I can't access the document; whoever placed it there, could you explain? Thanks :))
	:The article isn't claiming that all belief is either pantheist or panentheist. Those are simply presented as two types of theistic belief. Clearly there are belief systems in which their deity/deities are separate in substance from the universe (such as the vast majority of Abrahamic religions). ] (]) 22:38, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
	:: And why would Pandeism and Panendeism not count? ] (]) 23:25, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

			{{Citation\|last=Jain\|first=Mahavir\|title=Neutron Experiments at Lampf\|date=1976\|url=http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/b978-0-7204-0481-4.50063-0\|work=Few Body Dynamics\|pages=215–219\|publisher=Elsevier\|doi=10.1016/b978-0-7204-0481-4.50063-0\|isbn=978-0-7204-0481-4\|access-date=2020-11-10}} ] (]) 12:48, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
	== Article lede changed in a manner to make it inaccurate. ==

			== theism = metaphysical personocracy (krátos: dominance, rule) ==
			A personocratic/personocentric (based on personhood and at least one person) view on/about the first principles. In ] (not strong belief, but theism with strong characteristics = great importance given to personhood and at least one divine/supernatural person) God is the origin of everything/the absolute everything (which cannot be defined and cannot exist as a single entity because there is no set of all sets, no system of all systems, no axiomatic system of all axiomatic systems ; and even if theoretically we could create a system which contained all the systems, we would require a mathematical definition for it... which would be infinite, and infinity cannot exist locally, it is a tendency... deeper questions about reality open. Even if we could claim that we cannot create an algorithm which would have to work an infinite amount of time, and place in some common file even mutually exclusive axiomatic systems in a protected unprocedural way which doesn't cancel them... that overall collection cannot have a mathematical definition; because it would require even different mathematics/allomathematics based on different axiomatics... and even if somehow we imagine an impossible infinity like that... it would be a monster of no internal coherence; or with infinite protective mathematical layers in order no procedure would cancel any mutually exclusive subroutine/subformula everything]/thus God cannot exist and for that reason ]. (Many physicists confuse the "big everything" = "absolutely everything and not only what we can access or everything related to us and our environment" with the "small everything" = every law/onto-procedure and everything included in our universe.)

			• metaphysical personocracy/theism = Greek: μεταφυσική προσωποκρατία/θεϊσμός
	In ] changes the lede sentence in a manner that simplifies the sentence a little bit, but it changes the meaning from what used to be accurate to what is now inaccurate.

			• metaphysical personocrat/theist = Greek: μεταφυσικός προσωποκράτης/θεϊστής m, θεΐστρια f
	''"the belief that at least one ] exists"'' is '''not''' the same meaning as ''"the belief in the existence of ]."'' And, of course, the difference is that the current version excludes the singular and only includes the plural. That is both a misrepresentation of the vast majority of theists (who are ]), it is also just inaccurate.

			<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 16:38, 26 January 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	I will change it to ''"the belief in the existence of a or deities."'' Perhaps it should just be reverted, but I don't want to have a revert struggle, so I will try to take this edit and make it better rather than revert it. ] (]) 03:25, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

			== Wheres that one ideology that is basically the same thing as this? ==
	== Making a distinction with deism ==

			I’ve tried to find what im talking about and I found it in the past, but now, I can’t seem to remember it
	We need sources here for reducing theism to belief in gods who intervene in the world. Cudworth's definition, in drawing a line between atheists and theists, plainly puts deists in the latter camp, and he is a contemporary of the originators of the idea, in the place of its origin. It would be fair to record deistic objection to being categorized with other believers in gods, but (a) if this distinction is more or less universally observed, we need a source for that, and (b) in any case we need a source for the deist perspective; you cannot just say it on your own authority. ] (]) 17:22, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

			sincere regards,
	==Does the term exclude pantheism and deism?==
			] (]) 20:25, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
	I feel pretty sure that I once read somewhere that as theism is belief in a God who is both transcendent and immanent, it would be taken to exclude both pantheism (which rejects the transcendence of God) and deism (which rejects the immanence of God). This could be more clearly formulated in the article. ] (]) 15:56, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

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create page and paragraph: strong theism (usually tautological to monotheism)

prerequisites for strong theism
(otherwise God or the gods might not be cosmogonic and cosmocentric )

self-causation/self-causality of personhood
involvement of personhood in cosmogony

details in French: L'auto-causalité et la cosmogonicité de le personnétat

(Keep it because some English speakers speak French or use autotranslation. The main article has to be enriched.)

Religiologiquement, l'auto-causalité et la cosmogonicité de l'état de la personne ( anglais : personhood ) sont les principaux éléments du théisme fort ( personocratie métaphysique et non un rôle secondaire au divin ). Si le personnétat ( l'état de la personne ) n'est pas en soi auto-causé et cosmogonique, dans ce cas Dieu a des ingrédients, et en aucun cas il n'est aisé de prouver qu'ils co-sythétisent un tout indivisible tandis qu'en étant séparé de son essence ( ousia ). ( Le personnétat est produit par un organe pensant, qui doit remplir de nombreuses conditions préalables ; voir : « Mary Anne Warren - the criteria of personhood ». Le cerveau humain utilise de nombreuses parties pour atteindre le personnétat ; voir : Nancy Kanwisher, Mark Solms. Les théistes ne fournissent aucune explication sur les mécanismes de l'âme. L'âme est un simple méréologique ( voir : méréologie, simple en philosophie ), elle est donc incapable de transmettre des informations plus d'un shannon ( unité d'information ), et elle est incapable d'exprimer différentes sous-routines comme les aires de Brodmann. ) Il est très difficile pour un Dieu avec des ingrédients discrets ( inévident et multisubstantiel ) d'être interprété comme l'origine de tout.

Le Dieu impersonnel / athée, est un sophisme superficiel et une altération lexicale ( une confusion avec son antonyme généralement pour tromperie rhétorique ).

________

En philosophie, on ne peut prétendre avoir une vue supérieure qui reste injustifiée.

"charged particles in the neutron beam"?????

Why, why, why on earth was the below citation placed under 'Autotheism'?

I don't know who added it there but I'm sure there was a reason why.

I can't access the document; whoever placed it there, could you explain? Thanks :))

Jain, Mahavir (1976), "Neutron Experiments at Lampf", Few Body Dynamics, Elsevier, pp. 215–219, doi:10.1016/b978-0-7204-0481-4.50063-0, ISBN 978-0-7204-0481-4, retrieved 2020-11-10 FatalSubjectivities (talk) 12:48, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

theism = metaphysical personocracy (krátos: dominance, rule)

A personocratic/personocentric (based on personhood and at least one person) view on/about the first principles. In strong theism (not strong belief, but theism with strong characteristics = great importance given to personhood and at least one divine/supernatural person) God is the origin of everything/the absolute everything (which cannot be defined and cannot exist as a single entity because there is no set of all sets, no system of all systems, no axiomatic system of all axiomatic systems ; and even if theoretically we could create a system which contained all the systems, we would require a mathematical definition for it... which would be infinite, and infinity cannot exist locally, it is a tendency... deeper questions about reality open. Even if we could claim that we cannot create an algorithm which would have to work an infinite amount of time, and place in some common file even mutually exclusive axiomatic systems in a protected unprocedural way which doesn't cancel them... that overall collection cannot have a mathematical definition; because it would require even different mathematics/allomathematics based on different axiomatics... and even if somehow we imagine an impossible infinity like that... it would be a monster of no internal coherence; or with infinite protective mathematical layers in order no procedure would cancel any mutually exclusive subroutine/subformula everything]/thus God cannot exist and for that reason ]. (Many physicists confuse the "big everything" = "absolutely everything and not only what we can access or everything related to us and our environment" with the "small everything" = every law/onto-procedure and everything included in our universe.)

• metaphysical personocracy/theism = Greek: μεταφυσική προσωποκρατία/θεϊσμός

• metaphysical personocrat/theist = Greek: μεταφυσικός προσωποκράτης/θεϊστής m, θεΐστρια f

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:2149:8AB8:3F00:28D0:340A:240:B4DB (talk) 16:38, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Wheres that one ideology that is basically the same thing as this?

I’ve tried to find what im talking about and I found it in the past, but now, I can’t seem to remember it

sincere regards,

2601:240:C480:2D0:892D:3BAF:733E:4088 (talk) 20:25, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

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