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The District of Columbia is also one of the political subdivisions of the United States. I also read ''somewhere'' that the Texas dividing into 5 other states is an urban legend, but I can't find it right this second. -- ] | |||
{{u|Station1}} reverted my edit to {{Diff2|1110104637|remove the state flags}} on the basis that in this article they ] and ]. I am curious to know how these flags are serving a greater encyclopedic purpose over ], for example. The flags here are so small that you can't even tell what they are (Alaska's barely visible star specs, Virginia's seal, etc.), let alone differentiate all the seal-on-a-bedsheets from each other. ] (]) 20:46, 14 September 2022 (UTC) | |||
*Sorry for a delayed answer, but I just recently noted your comment. The treaty negotiated between Texas and U.S wasn't ratified by U.S., further negotiations produced a congressional Joint Res (JR) in 1844 that supported Texas admission and had the 5 states (actually 4 additional) comment. The pre-admission Texas legislature passed a word for word identical resolution in July, 1844. BUT, when Texas was admitted again after the civil war the whole issue was dropped. Today it would take a building full of lawyers to write briefs on both sides of the ''can Texas unilateraly subdivide'' issue. Besides, except for a radical fringe, we don't want to.- ] 17:34 25 May 2003 (UTC) | |||
**I belive the "Texas can subdivide" issue related the entry of Texas into the Union: The treaty mentioned above merely meant that the Republic of Texas could, if it wanted, enter the Union as up to 5 states instead of one. But once it actually entered the Union as one state, this provision of the treaty was no longer meaningfull. Incidentally, the Constitution says that a state legislature can vote to split a state up, though Congress would have to approve the admission of each new state. This has happened once, in the case of West Virginia, though that situation was a bit dodgy. --] | |||
:With respect to viewing, I think it depends on what device the person is viewing it on; standard desktop or laptop seem fine. ] (]) 20:52, 14 September 2022 (UTC) | |||
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::I concur with the removal. It is needless clutter in this instance. ] (]) 21:23, 14 September 2022 (UTC) | |||
:::I think, I come out the opposite, it is a visual of federation and this kind of sovereignty, which are keys to this article . -- ] (]) 21:41, 14 September 2022 (UTC) | |||
::::That's quite a stretch, as the map provides the same thing in a less "cluttery" way and is more informative. As the other person commented, we have the flag article for that. ] (]) 22:13, 14 September 2022 (UTC) | |||
:::::Disagree, the map is just lines, flags are standard representations for polities. ] (]) 22:28, 14 September 2022 (UTC) | |||
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::::::If the flags are somehow {{em|that important}}, then how about we switch the map below the bulleted list to this one? That way, the flags are much more legible and the reader/editor can click on the image to zoom in even more. The flags at their current size are too small, all devices considered. ] (]) 12:35, 15 September 2022 (UTC) | |||
:::::::Not a fan, among other things it is not limited to states. -- ] (]) 14:39, 15 September 2022 (UTC) | |||
::::::::Flags are not important in this usage. It's an alphabetical list of linked state names. The flags are really too small to be useful here, and no reader is likely going to try to use that list to identify a flag, and we shouldn't tempt them to try. The flags are just decoration. They need to be removed. Misplaced Pages over uses flag icons as it is, which is why the guideline exists. It just needs to be followed more. ] (]) 19:44, 15 September 2022 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::Of course, it could be ]. That's still no reason to keep them here. ] (]) 19:49, 15 September 2022 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::{{ping|BilCat}} given what you said—{{tq|q=y|It's an alphabetical list of linked state names.}}—there is an argument to be made that this list is part of a sentence, which would mean it violates ], among all the other anti-flag guidelines. ] (]) 00:29, 18 September 2022 (UTC) | |||
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Shouldn't the first letter of "state" in this context be capitalized to distinguish it from ]? --] 07:41 30 Jun 2003 (UTC) | |||
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Er... Iraq is now a U.S. colony? I gotta turn on the news more often... -- ] 19:42 13 Jul 2003 (UTC) | |||
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I looked around and couldn't find any corroborating evidence on this; there's some speculation that the Bush administration may want to turn Iraq into a colony. Looks like Mav already reverted it. -- ] 19:53 13 Jul 2003 (UTC) | |||
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: Is the formal status that Iraq is still an "occupied territory" that is being "administered" by the US-led coalition? Or something else? ] | |||
{{tqb|While the Constitution does not explicitly discuss the issue of whether states have the power to ] from the Union, shortly after the ], the ], in '']'', held that a state cannot unilaterally do so.}} | |||
I errored the US is the "occupying power" not "colonial power" over Iraq. | |||
This doesn't, as it happens, read, to me, very smoothly. I'm not, however, sure, at this point, how to improve it. ] (]) 21:46, 3 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
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''It is the widely held perception that the American Civil War determined that it could not , though a good number of states' rights supporters assert that the American Civil War was conducted illegally or was not a definitive precedent.'' | |||
geograhy of USA ] (]) 13:46, 20 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
I removed everything after "it could not". The secession of a U.S. State is not a serious proposition and its possibility is considered only by a handful of wackos and perhaps a handful of academics with no grasp on reality. | |||
:See ] or did you want something here? ] (]) 13:52, 20 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
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Two references to back up the assertion that the name California is Spanish in origin: | |||
Both were found during aprox. 60 min. of web search, no other corroborating (sp?) or conflicting referrences were found. What they state is that California was named after the mythical paradise called Califia found in the book ''Las Sergas de Esplandián'' by Garcia Ordóñez de Montalvo written c. 1510. | |||
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Where could I find a map of the United States where Alaska is to the same scale? I'l like to make a map for the ] page that has Alaska overlayed on the contenental U.S. to give a sense of scale. | |||
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I want to add a state mottos in Latin, but with all of my respect I will not do it alone, without discuss. So, How and Where I must add them...]- '''Audemus iura nostra defendere''' - ''We dare defend our rights'', ]- '''Ditat Deus''' - ''God enriches''...etc. --] 14:14, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC) | |||
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I know that I'm probably going to get yelled at but the United States actually does have "official" regions. They are the four regions that are used by the Census Bureau; Northeast, Midwest, West, and South. If we used these regions we could get regional information directly from the census bureau. Using this system may also put some of the "controversy" to rest over which state is listed in which region since this is how the Federal Government groups them. I know that several encyclopedias still use these regions, but the borders and members of the Southwest and Mid Atlantic are nebulous at best, are often gerrymandered, and vary from book to book. You can see how the Census Bureau divides the US at http://www.census.gov/geo/www/us_regdiv.pdf. I don't want to delete the other regions but these should take precedence over them. The regions are more cosmopolitan culturally and therefore less likely to have one culture dominate another. Please post on my talk page, or here. As of December 22, I received permission from ] to convert us_regions.gif to the Census Bureau Model. Since this is a somewhat controversial topic I wanted to discuss it before I started any | |||
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Flags on this page
Station1 reverted my edit to remove the state flags on the basis that in this article they do not serve an encyclopedic purpose and there are too many of them in a small space. I am curious to know how these flags are serving a greater encyclopedic purpose over Flags of the U.S. states and territories, for example. The flags here are so small that you can't even tell what they are (Alaska's barely visible star specs, Virginia's seal, etc.), let alone differentiate all the seal-on-a-bedsheets from each other. Thrakkx (talk) 20:46, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
- With respect to viewing, I think it depends on what device the person is viewing it on; standard desktop or laptop seem fine. Alanscottwalker (talk) 20:52, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
- I concur with the removal. It is needless clutter in this instance. BilCat (talk) 21:23, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
- I think, I come out the opposite, it is a visual of federation and this kind of sovereignty, which are keys to this article . -- Alanscottwalker (talk) 21:41, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
- That's quite a stretch, as the map provides the same thing in a less "cluttery" way and is more informative. As the other person commented, we have the flag article for that. BilCat (talk) 22:13, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
- Disagree, the map is just lines, flags are standard representations for polities. Alanscottwalker (talk) 22:28, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
- If the flags are somehow that important, then how about we switch the map below the bulleted list to this one? That way, the flags are much more legible and the reader/editor can click on the image to zoom in even more. The flags at their current size are too small, all devices considered. Thrakkx (talk) 12:35, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
- Not a fan, among other things it is not limited to states. -- Alanscottwalker (talk) 14:39, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
- Flags are not important in this usage. It's an alphabetical list of linked state names. The flags are really too small to be useful here, and no reader is likely going to try to use that list to identify a flag, and we shouldn't tempt them to try. The flags are just decoration. They need to be removed. Misplaced Pages over uses flag icons as it is, which is why the guideline exists. It just needs to be followed more. BilCat (talk) 19:44, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
- Of course, it could be worse. That's still no reason to keep them here. BilCat (talk) 19:49, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
- @BilCat: given what you said—
It's an alphabetical list of linked state names.
—there is an argument to be made that this list is part of a sentence, which would mean it violates MOS:NOICONS, among all the other anti-flag guidelines. Thrakkx (talk) 00:29, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
- Flags are not important in this usage. It's an alphabetical list of linked state names. The flags are really too small to be useful here, and no reader is likely going to try to use that list to identify a flag, and we shouldn't tempt them to try. The flags are just decoration. They need to be removed. Misplaced Pages over uses flag icons as it is, which is why the guideline exists. It just needs to be followed more. BilCat (talk) 19:44, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
- Not a fan, among other things it is not limited to states. -- Alanscottwalker (talk) 14:39, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
- Disagree, the map is just lines, flags are standard representations for polities. Alanscottwalker (talk) 22:28, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
- That's quite a stretch, as the map provides the same thing in a less "cluttery" way and is more informative. As the other person commented, we have the flag article for that. BilCat (talk) 22:13, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
- I think, I come out the opposite, it is a visual of federation and this kind of sovereignty, which are keys to this article . -- Alanscottwalker (talk) 21:41, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
- I concur with the removal. It is needless clutter in this instance. BilCat (talk) 21:23, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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While the Constitution does not explicitly discuss the issue of whether states have the power to secede from the Union, shortly after the Civil War, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Texas v. White, held that a state cannot unilaterally do so.
This doesn't, as it happens, read, to me, very smoothly. I'm not, however, sure, at this point, how to improve it. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:46, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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geograhy of USA 2400:1A00:B040:30FE:E868:1549:DA22:3D54 (talk) 13:46, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- See Geography of the United States or did you want something here? Alanscottwalker (talk) 13:52, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
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