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The source given to attribute these is very controversial in linguistic studies. The Kaufman & Justeson 2009 source currently in the article is dedicated to debunking it. I have written out an outline of what the literature says ] re; cacao, but the Nahuatl origin of chocolate is also contested, and it is not true that "there is no real doubt that the word chocolate comes from Nahuatl." I am not saying it isn't, just that it needs some attribution or recognition of it being contentious. ] (]) 12:45, 16 July 2024 (UTC) The source given to attribute these is very controversial in linguistic studies. The Kaufman & Justeson 2009 source currently in the article is dedicated to debunking it. I have written out an outline of what the literature says ] re; cacao, but the Nahuatl origin of chocolate is also contested, and it is not true that "there is no real doubt that the word chocolate comes from Nahuatl." I am not saying it isn't, just that it needs some attribution or recognition of it being contentious. ] (]) 12:45, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

== FA concerns ==

I am reviewing this article for ], and I am concerned that this article no longer meets the ]. Some of my concerns are listed below:

*The lead, at six paragraphs, is longer than what is recommended at ]
*There is a lot of uncited text, including entire paragraphs and the entire "Numerals" section,
*I do not think the "Sample text" section should be in the article, as there are several examples in various sections.
*The "Demography and distribution" section needs to be updated.

Is anyone interested in fixing up this article, or should it go to ]? ] (]) 21:35, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

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Is Nahuatl really spoken in Poland?

In 2.3, there is a map of the geographical distribution of Nahuatl speakers, and there is a small bubble of speakers in Poland. After a cursory search driven by curiosity I could not find a document supporting this. I'd like to know if anyone that sees this could help me in either finding a source for this or correcting the map in case it is wrong. I don't know much about Misplaced Pages editing but I hope this will at least either correct this article and make it a little bit better or at least satiate the curiosity of the next person curious about the map by manner of a citation. @Languaeditor you should be aware of this topic since you posted and apparently created the image. 187.181.254.199 (talk) 06:41, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

Check out this reddit thread. Basically a bunch of Poles, especially at the University of Warsaw, are interested in studying Nahuatl and assisting with revitalization/maintenance efforts, and that university offers some courses in Nahuatl. Erinius (talk) 10:44, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
I would think that we only want to show native or possibly heritage speakers on the map?—Ermenrich (talk) 13:19, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
You're probably right. Additionally, neither the caption on this page (official status??) nor the legend on the map's Wikimedia page seem to really describe the map's contents. Better labelling would really help. Also, I'm not really sure this page really needs an international map in the first place. From what I can tell, every Nahuatl dialect, with the exception of Pipil, is native to Mexico. Maybe a map with more specific info behind it could highlight areas of the US (and Canada?) with high Nahuatl-speaking immigrant populations?
It is interesting and significant that a disproportionate amount of research on Nahuatl comes out of Poland, but a confusing map isn't the best way to explain that. Erinius (talk) 13:41, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
I was bold, and I just updated the map's caption on this page Erinius (talk) 14:07, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

Cacao and Chocolate being Nahuatl words

The source given to attribute these is very controversial in linguistic studies. The Kaufman & Justeson 2009 source currently in the article is dedicated to debunking it. I have written out an outline of what the literature says on the chocolate talk page re; cacao, but the Nahuatl origin of chocolate is also contested, and it is not true that "there is no real doubt that the word chocolate comes from Nahuatl." I am not saying it isn't, just that it needs some attribution or recognition of it being contentious. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 12:45, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

FA concerns

I am reviewing this article for URFA/2020, and I am concerned that this article no longer meets the featured article criteria. Some of my concerns are listed below:

  • The lead, at six paragraphs, is longer than what is recommended at MOS:LEADLENGTH
  • There is a lot of uncited text, including entire paragraphs and the entire "Numerals" section,
  • I do not think the "Sample text" section should be in the article, as there are several examples in various sections.
  • The "Demography and distribution" section needs to be updated.

Is anyone interested in fixing up this article, or should it go to WP:FAC? Z1720 (talk) 21:35, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

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