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Someday I'd love to do that. But right now it's not possible due to the NC hysteria, the infobox backup, the browse mess, etc. Also we'd have to take it one state at a time. But at one point I'd like to do that. --'''] (] - ]) ''' 20:41, 29 August 2006 (UTC) |
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{{tmbox|image=]|text=The maps task force asks that '''all''' map requests be left on the ''']''' and not on this page. Your cooperation is appreciated.}} |
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== Overhaul of page tags == |
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== Help! == |
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I created KML data for this draft, ], in the References section, and converted it to GeoJSON, but upon loading, it just throws an error. How can I fix this? <span style="font-family:monospace; font-weight: bold"><span style="color:ForestGreen">]</span>: ] <span style="">$</span></span> 19:33, 1 June 2024 (UTC) |
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Here is an example of a page tag being used widely: |
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:Never mind, I figured it out. <span style="font-family:monospace; font-weight: bold"><span style="color:ForestGreen">]</span>: ] <span style="">$</span></span> 21:34, 1 June 2024 (UTC) |
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{{U.S. Interstate Highway WikiProject}} |
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:Uploading GeoJSON to Misplaced Pages in raw form has been dying a slow death for years now- the preferred method these days is uploading to Commons under a Data:_____.map page and calling it using a ‘from’ parameter in the template <span style="background:#613314; padding:2px; font-family: 'Courier New'">''']]'''</span> 21:41, 1 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::The upside to putting the map data on Commons is that it's reusable on other editions of Misplaced Pages, or even the AARoads Wiki. ] and use the same map file on Commons, for instance. <span style="background:#006B54; padding:2px;">'''] ]'''</span> 21:55, 1 June 2024 (UTC) |
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It seems there are various methods of assessment being attached to these tags at the moment for some WikiProjects; from my limited amount of browsing, the most comprehensive of these is ], but they also reference ], so many more are possible. For examples, see ] and ]. |
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There is an opportunity for bloat there, but the two uses that are a Very Good Idea and should be implemented are: |
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* '''Assessment''' - determining the state of an article and its room for improvement |
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* '''Map classification''' - using the template to identify which articles are in need for maps. |
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Here's where it gets interesting; while WikiProject Trains has precisely one level of complexity, U.S. Roads has about three; U.S. Roads, Interstates and U.S. Highways, and 50+ state projects. Theoretically, then, there will be 54 different tags to edit, versus WikiProject Trains' 1. |
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In other words, when these templates are edited, and the people that need to be notified are notified, we need to keep in mind that we don't want ]; we want ]. It's easy to fall into the trap of the former. Even ] should be avoided. |
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Anyways, this is all sort of related to the maps task force, but if we're going to be modifying many templates, we'll want to keep this in mind. —] <span style="font-size:x-small">(</span>]<span style="font-size:x-small">)</span> 20:45, 29 August 2006 (UTC) |
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: Further discussion on assessment-related issues will be located on the subproject site at ]. I would hate to dilute the discussion when the Maps Task Force has just started. :-) —] <span style="font-size:x-small">(</span>]<span style="font-size:x-small">)</span> 20:56, 29 August 2006 (UTC) |
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== Maps in SVG format == |
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This is just for everyone's information. I'd prefer to upload maps in SVG, but ArcMap's SVG export sucks and the output tends to crash Firefox and hang Internet Explorer. That's the sole reason all my maps are uploaded in PNG. ''']''' <sup>(] ])</sup> 21:34, 29 August 2006 (UTC) |
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* case in point, ], the image page loads fine but when you click to view full size it explodes and Firefox cries and IE usually hangs. ''']''' <sup>(] ])</sup> 21:37, 29 August 2006 (UTC) |
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** You could probably just run it through Inkscape and it would correct the code. —]] 06:36, 30 August 2006 (UTC) |
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*** Yeah, I haven't had any success with that as of yet. ''']''' <sup>(] ])</sup> 14:00, 30 August 2006 (UTC) |
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**** Tried saving as "plain SVG" instead of "Inkscape SVG" yet? —]] 14:28, 30 August 2006 (UTC) |
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***** yep ''']''' <sup>(] ])</sup> 14:42, 30 August 2006 (UTC) |
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== Legend == |
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The first thing we need to do is define a legend. Here's some ideas that I gleaned from various maps: |
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The numbers in parenthesis are the stroke width, which is derived by multiplying the number given and the width of "other numbered highway". The only thing I don't like about this is the double red line, which is close to impossible to do in Inkscape, but would make sense to most people. Ideas? —]] 15:01, 30 August 2006 (UTC) |
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:Hmm. All right. I'm a Rand McNally guy myself, so keep that in mind, but here's what I think... |
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:# I'd use green (for money) for turnpikes/toll roads. |
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:# How would divided highways and expressways be different? I'd consider merging these two, and where a divided highway is an expressway, using interchange markers (squares, circles or otherwise) to show that. |
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:# We might want to differentiate between state routes and county routes, where that level of detail is required. Also, U.S. Routes and state routes. |
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:# I don't know how I feel about separating Interstate and Other Freeway. At the least, I think it should be a dark, thick color, since I like the idea of having darker, thicker roads being more important than lighter, thinner ones. |
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So those are some of my thoughts. —] <span style="font-size:x-small">(</span>]<span style="font-size:x-small">)</span> 15:40, 30 August 2006 (UTC) |
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Also, regarding simplicity. Here's a good example: |
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No legend, and no need for a legend. Here's I-90, and everything else relative to I-90. I don't know if it can be done, but the more maps without legends (or with small legends), the better. At a certain scale, I would even be willing to sacrifice the subclassing of highways in favor of simplicity. I also think all the borders (town line, state line, etc.), if used, would be nice and obvious (with proper labeling where necessary, of course - nothing more annoying than a town line with no town name!). —] <span style="font-size:x-small">(</span>]<span style="font-size:x-small">)</span> 15:59, 30 August 2006 (UTC) |
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