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:If you do not understand - ask instead to censor me. |
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:If you do not understand - ask instead to censor me. |
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:Usage of the word 'censorship' in this context is a pro-Russian statement, a neutral word should be used. This is not a computer game, this a genocidal war, in which any military, propaganda, economic tool is being used by Russia. Russia is the invider.] (]) 09:38, 27 June 2022 (UTC) |
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:Usage of the word 'censorship' in this context is a pro-Russian statement, a neutral word should be used. This is not a computer game, this a genocidal war, in which any military, propaganda, economic tool is being used by Russia. Russia is the invider.] (]) 09:38, 27 June 2022 (UTC) |
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::Be careful with tossing the word 'genocide' around. Definitions don't change during times of international conflicts and we should beware not to let our sense of reason be overtaken by which side we may or may not pick in any conflict. ] (]) 15:36, 15 May 2023 (UTC) |
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:Anther joke 'an autonomous non-profit organization' under Putin's rules. Russia is not the UK, please do not misuse Western words descibing the authoritarian state. ] (]) 09:42, 27 June 2022 (UTC) |
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:Anther joke 'an autonomous non-profit organization' under Putin's rules. Russia is not the UK, please do not misuse Western words descibing the authoritarian state. ] (]) 09:42, 27 June 2022 (UTC) |
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:'after Russia's annexation of Crimea' - the referenced sourse says also about Donbas, not only about Crimea.] (]) 09:49, 27 June 2022 (UTC) |
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:'after Russia's annexation of Crimea' - the referenced sourse says also about Donbas, not only about Crimea.] (]) 09:49, 27 June 2022 (UTC) |
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:Recent opinions presented by ] are genocidal ("Russian media chief welcomes prospect of global FAMINE" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10940035/Russian-media-chief-welcomes-prospect-global-FAMINE-sparked-Ukraine-invasion.html). ] (]) 10:01, 27 June 2022 (UTC) |
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:Recent opinions presented by ] are genocidal ("Russian media chief welcomes prospect of global FAMINE" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10940035/Russian-media-chief-welcomes-prospect-global-FAMINE-sparked-Ukraine-invasion.html). ] (]) 10:01, 27 June 2022 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 29 September 2023 == |
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== Propaganda == |
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There is an edit war regarding 'propaganda'. As far as I know the goal of RT is not propaganda of Russia as a successful land (there is such a recent video), but anarchization of the West, hybrid warfare. So perhaps not propaganda, but '] (] and individual terror)? Or Political warfare only?] (]) 06:57, 17 August 2022 (UTC) |
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"resorting to calling anti-vaccination activists "imbeciles"" |
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:https://www.state.gov/report-rt-and-sputniks-role-in-russias-disinformation-and-propaganda-ecosystem/ Disinformation and propaganda ] (]) 08:01, 17 August 2022 (UTC) |
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Remove "resorting to", as it implies it is wrong to do so. ] (]) 20:17, 29 September 2023 (UTC) |
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:https://newrepublic.com/article/165813/russian-propaganda-rt-america-end ] (]) 08:11, 17 August 2022 (UTC) |
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:{{done}}<!-- Template:ESp --> in ]. Thanks for suggesting this. — ''''']''' <small>]</small>'' 20:23, 29 September 2023 (UTC) |
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::Perhaps i dont understand how the Wiki works, but having read the whole article i found a lot of acusations. Many by people of dubious relevance - the director of some obscure series? what does he know of this? Credentials? Another: ONE blogger? |
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::Then, right next, lots of data disprobing those acusations. ( Amount of viewers and record views, for example ) |
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::And lastly, i could not find any example of straight out lies or misrepresentation of news in the whole page. Just praise for showing independent views. |
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The redirect <span class="plainlinks"></span> has been listed at ] to determine whether its use and function meets the ]. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at '''{{slink|Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 1#Propaganda bullhorn}}''' until a consensus is reached. <!-- Template:RFDNote --> — ''']''' <sup>''(])''</sup> 09:05, 1 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::So the Wiki paints the Outlet as a propaganda machine, but never shows the data. What is worse, the hard data it shows demostrates the reliability of the Outlet on those topics. |
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::What is going on? ] (]) 03:10, 20 September 2022 (UTC) |
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::: The ''propaganda'' descriptor is supported by ] to ], authored by 22 people, none of whom are "bloggers". "Amount of viewers and record views" are irrelevant when determining whether something is propaganda or not. ] (]) 08:24, 20 September 2022 (UTC) |
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::::Using just the first of those citations as example, its a Times article saying that a disaster documentary was made by a Russian company. With interviews and points of view of local people, not russians. Propaganda? ok i guess. |
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::::Go to Section GUESTS, there you have your blogger and obscure director sharing their thoughts. And not as Guests. |
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::::Nevertheless im not speaking of obscure sources or political labels, but the plain text of the article using the Ratings/impact section as an example. Ok, i ll show it right here. The section starts thus : |
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::::"The RT website (as of March 2022), maintains that "since June 2012", RT has "consistently and significantly outperforms other foreign channels including Euronews and Fox News. RT’s quarterly audience in the UK is 2.5 million viewers" |
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::::Next are 10 lines of multiple falsehood accusations challenging that. Then it closes with : |
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::::" In the UK, the Broadcasters' Audience Research Board (BARB) has included RT in the viewer data it publishes since 2012. According to their data, approximately 2.5 million Britons watched RT during the third quarter of 2012, making it the third most-watched rolling news channel in Britain, behind BBC News and Sky News (not including Sky Sports News). " |
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::::Followed by another 7 lines finally the veracity of the opening RT Web statement and other positive observations. |
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::::This " format " is repeated over the whole place. Wich of the sources do i trust? All of them are supposedly reliable, but they contradict each other. |
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::::Re-read the article and everyone will find these inconsistencies all over the place. ] (]) 23:09, 20 September 2022 (UTC) |
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== Crosstalk == |
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Did RT cancel Crosstalk? ] (]) 13:36, 2 September 2022 (UTC) |
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Russia censors all its media. Russia uses the RT as a tool of his war in Ukraine (as far the only Russian war). No w we have ban of war hate propaganda 'censorship'.Xx236 (talk) 05:52, 27 June 2022 (UTC)