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== Early Piping Training == |
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==Name /redirect== |
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I moved the page from Rodderick Toombs to Roderick Toombs; among other sources, Roddy's 2002 biography gives the correct spelling as "Roderick". --] 22:28, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC) |
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Rod learned his piping in his early teens, under the Pipe Master Jock Campbell in Scarborough Ontario, Canada. He was in a boy’s pipe band that progressed to be one of the best bands in the Highland Games in Ontario, Quebec and the northern states of America. He was a lovely friend of the Drum Major, George White, his wife Mae and family He was also welcome at our house, my brother Rob was also in the band with Rod. They practiced at the Scarborough Rec Centre at Warden and Ellesmere. We travelled with them to competitions, Fergus, Kingston, Kincardin,Maxwell,Alma NY,any weekend Games for the support of the band and the boys. Jock was a Master Piper from Scotland and my father was a locally taught piper from Toronto who believed in the boys, so he gave his help in teaching Rod was very accomplished, with many awards in competitions, as we’re all band members with their piers who were their elders Rod was always polite and curtious to all. The persona that he displayed , I believe is what he wanted to put out as hi act, not who he truly was God Bless You Rod, love Nance ] (]) 11:25, 12 September 2024 (UTC) |
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Why not just Roddy Piper? Naming Conventions say to use the most common name. There doesn't seem to be any reason to use his real name.--] 03:33, May 20, 2005 (UTC) |
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==The Most Important Part ... his piping== |
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Okay, I didn't watch WWF in his day ... or any day since ... I guess I was just too intelligent and had better things to do with my time. So far as I know tho, having already acknowledged a lack of information on this bloke, he actually played pipes to some degree -- yes, no? How about a section in this article about RRPiper and his piping experience, or lack there of (was his piping fake too?). Okay, sing with me now "I'm a piper, he was a piper(?), wouldn't you like to be a piper too?" |
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==Requested move== |
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Toombs is best known as Roddy Piper, and he seems to own the trademark, so there's no chance he'll stop using the name anytime soon (unlike many wrestlers). Therefore, there's no reason to keep this page at its current location. |
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:''Add *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''' followed by an optional one sentence explanation, then sign your vote with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>'' |
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:'''Support'''. --] 17:03, August 26, 2005 (UTC) |
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*support ] 01:21, 2 April 2006 (UTC) |
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''This article has been renamed after the result of a ].'' ] 02:31, September 1, 2005 (UTC) |
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===Discussion=== |
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:''Add any additional comments'' |
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Please someone change that profile picture!!! I have a better one of Roddy. |
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Email me at Kelleyskitchen6@gmail.com for me to put my suggestion up |
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<small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 18:06, 8 August 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== WCW career == |
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There is hardly any information regarding his time in WCW other than the year he was signed and the year he was released. Anybody care to fill the gaps? ] 04:53, 22 December 2005 (UTC) |
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I have done so. There is a lot storyline wise from 98/99 that I left out, but the basics are covered. ] 19:11, 24 October 2006 (UTC) |
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== Family == |
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Does anyone know the names of his children? I know that he has a son named Colton and a daughter named Fallon Danica. Doesn't he have a daughter named Ariel that recntly gave birth to Roddy's first grandchild? |
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Roddy son is Colt, Dau. Fallon Danica,dau. Ariel Tiel and dau. Anastacia mother of his grandchild. rpipergirl] 02:30, 9 July 2007 (UTC) |
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the correct spelling is Falon Danika, Ariel Teal, and Anastasia. |
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==Vitalstatistics== |
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I don't think Piper is as tall as 6'2".(] 07:43, 2 June 2006 (UTC)) |
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Vince is 6 ft 2 in, looking at this pic |
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http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/pictures/r/roddypiper/40.jpg |
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I'd say Piper is nearing 6 ft. What do others think?(] 14:21, 6 June 2006 (UTC)) |
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I don't know what the deal is with that picture but I was just watching the first Piper's Pit where Piper came back to the WWE and I noted that Piper was actually taller than Vince. If I can find a clear picture showing this I'll link to it. ] 05:43, 25 November 2006 (UTC) |
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Piper is 6'1 1/2" he has stated on a number of ocations user: rpipergirl |
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== Complaint == |
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I've read some Pro-Wrestling pages and this one seems to be one of the most "Pro"Pro wrestling, meaning, it reads like the author believes that it's real. Can someone do something about all these pages? |
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SRodgers--] 17:19, 8 July 2006 (UTC) |
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Updated Facts piper won the golden gloves boxing championship was a black belt in judo and was an amatuer wrestler . He also won over 7000 matches . All are facts and should be mentioned. Rick Flair said Piper was the most talented pro wrestler in history bar none.] 20:20, 10 October 2006 (UTC) |
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I tagged this article because, as the IP user above was trying to say, it seems like an unbalanced mix of kayfabe and the truth. And kayfabe has no place on Misplaced Pages. ] 13:06, 15 February 2007 (UTC) |
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==Piper's Pit== |
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Who is for it as a seperate article, and who is against it? I think a discussion needs to be made, before people just decide to revert it back to a redirect with no discussion. The interview segment is notable, and can be more than just "listcruft" as one editor called it during a revert back to the redirect. ] 07:57, 19 November 2006 (UTC) |
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<b>Support</b>, cautiously... I agree with RobJ1981, it can be more than listcruft. At very least, it would need a discussion of the notable Pits... the Snuka/coconut incident, Frankie Williams, Andre and Heenan challenging Hogan. ] 12:47, 16 December 2006 (UTC)Zipster |
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== Not supposed to win the Tag Team title? == |
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What's this about Flair and Piper weren't even supposed to win the Tag Team titles? This is the first I've heard of it, and what's more, there's no proof of this. I'm taking it out until someone brings forth some proof. ] 14:44, 23 November 2006 (UTC) |
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Proof? No. You won't get it. However, the selection of Piper as Flair's tag team partner for that match was part of an online vote. One of the other candidates was Flair's long-time rival Dusty Rhodes. It was generally believed by many fans and "insiders" that the WWE expected Rhodes to receive the most votes instead of Piper. Either partner would have been compatible with the storyline, so the WWE proceeded with Piper anyway. In this regard, Piper was not "supposed" to be (or expected to be) in the match. But none of this would really pass as "proof" of what the WWE was expecting to happen. - HMFiles <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 14:28, 24 July 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Things do sometimes fail to happen as intended - as an extreme example, witness the ]. This may not be such a case, but keep the possibility in mind. ] 07:16, 15 May 2007 (UTC) |
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==ECW Appearance== |
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Can I just point out that Piper did not attack Boogeyman with a steel chair at all. Piper threw Striker back into the ring, before Boogeyman spat worms into Striker's mouth. Piper just left the scene. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 15:16, 11 October 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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==MidAtlantic and Georgia== |
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The 1980-1983 "MidAtlantic" section implies that Piper turned good by defending Gordon Solie while working for Jim Crockett Promotions (aka Mid-Atlantic). It actually happened in the separate (though frequently cooperating) promotion, Georgia Championship Wrestling. I propose changing the header of that section to something like "Mid-Atlantic and Georgia" and clarify the location of the Solie incident. It should also perhaps note Piper's Georgia rivalries against Tommy Rich, Buzz Sawyer, and Michael Hayes, as well as his alliance with Ole Anderson, Gary Hart, and (initially) Buzz Sawyer. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 14:44, 24 July 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Colton Toombs-MMA fighter == |
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Should it be mentioned on Roddy's page that his son Colton is a mma fighter?He's only had one fight but there will probably be more in the future.(] (]) 15:03, 21 August 2008 (UTC)) |
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== Youngest Wrestler In History == |
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There is a challenge to wether Piper was the youngest wrestler ever. Rey Mysterio started in wrestling when he was 15. If you look at Mysterio's birthdate and when he joined, you will see he join when he was 15. So that part about Piper being the youngest needs to be changed. ] (]) 18:47, 30 September 2008 (UTC) |
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:For a time Piper's gimmick was that he was the "World's Youngest Millionaire Wrestler"<ref>{{Cite video |
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| people = Roddy Piper (Actor), Hulk Hogan (Actor) |
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| title = Born to Controversy: The Roddy Piper Story |
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| medium = Television production |
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| publisher = World Wrestling |
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| location = USA |
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| date = 2006}}</ref> ] (]) 17:56, 10 July 2010 (UTC) |
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Piper did not start at 15. He was 19 and his first match was against Tony Condello. He has been lying about this for years. I invite anyone to look this up. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 06:43, 18 June 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== other media section == |
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Poorly written if you ask me, clearly needs an overhaul, his television work, filmography need to be separated into it's own section with explanation and a list of film/character/year. ] (]) 22:50, 2 May 2009 (UTC) |
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Agreed and would like to see more discussion on this. --] (]) 08:46, 4 June 2009 (UTC) |
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== Prepare yourself, doesnt look like he's going to make it == |
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Articles all over the web about it, Doctors have confirmed he has terminal cancer and doesnt look like he's going to make it. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 17:46, 7 October 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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::Yes, we know, thanks.] (]) 20:15, 7 October 2009 (UTC) |
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:::Right now it's all rumor. His representatives are saying otherwise. Personally I think the things about his cancer returning and them denying it ought to be removed. We'll find it for sure in a little while. ] (]) 02:09, 8 October 2009 (UTC) |
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::::He's no selling cancer like Triple H <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 21:26, 8 October 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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==Petruzzi/Bertuzzi== |
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The article right now says: |
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:"Following a leave of absence from the WWF, Piper returned during a TV taping on WWF Superstars in 1986 against jobber A.J. Petruzzi and seemed to be a fan favorite. After being slapped in the face by Bertuzzi twice, Piper placed one hand behind his back and beat his opponent to a pulp." |
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I don't know enough about the wrestler involved, so is his name Petruzzi or Bertuzzi? Or did he wrestle under both? Unless he changed his name in the middle of the match, that should really be fixed. --] (]) 03:31, 17 November 2009 (UTC) |
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== First TNA Run == |
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The article lists 'The Vince Russo/TNA Controversy' under TNA (2004-2005). However, the shoot referenced in the 'The Vince Russo/TNA Controversy' section occurred in 2002, at weekly PPV #23. Someone with more knowledge of the events should change this. ] (]) 14:17, 7 April 2010 (UTC) |
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== Orphaned references in ] == |
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I check pages listed in ] to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for ] in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of ]'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for ''this'' article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article. |
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<b>Reference named "wwe-bio":</b><ul> |
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<li>From ]: {{cite web|url=http://www.wwe.com/superstars/halloffame/inductees/ricflair/bio/|title=Ric Flair Bio|publisher=]|accessdate=2007-11-13}}</li> |
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<li>From ]: {{cite web|url=http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackdown/christian/bio|title=Christian's bio|accessdate=2010-04-27|publisher=]}}</li> |
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<li>From ]: {{cite web|url=http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/hardcoreholly/bio/|archiveurl=http://web.archive.org/web/20080105085621/http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/hardcoreholly/bio/|archivedate=2008-01-05|title=WWE Bio|publisher=]|accessdate=2007-09-30}}</li> |
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<li>From ]: {{cite web|url=http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/dhsmith/bio/|title=David Hart Smith Bio|accessdate=2010-04-27|publisher=]}}</li> |
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</ul> |
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I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. ]] 14:38, 11 June 2010 (UTC) |
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==Notes== |
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{{Reflist}} |
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== Pro Wrestling Guerrilla == |
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Piper's debut in PWG is stated under the wrestlemania, part time wwe appearances. Should this have its own section below. Perhaps titled Independent Circuit? or Pro Wrestling Guerrilla? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 04:16, 16 March 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Singing Career == |
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Anyone have any information on his supposed singing career in the early 90s? He released a single with a music video in 1992 entitled, "I'm Your Man". I'm not sure if it was only released in the UK or what but apparently it was under Sony's label. The video aired years later on an episode of WCW Monday Nitro. It seems that it should have at least a passing mention in the article considering his other successes outside of wrestling. ] (]) 18:11, 12 May 2011 (UTC) |
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== Merger proposal == |
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After suggesting the deletion of the ] article at ] I figured this would be a more appropriate step. I propose the Piper's Pit article be merged with ] due to the notability of the subject relating to this article. Some of the content on the Piper's Pit page does seem notable, however, I can't say the same for the majority of other notes listed there. Other issues with the Piper's Pit article include a lack of sources and list format. <sup>--]]--</sup> 03:42, 15 June 2011 (UTC) |
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:These are the paragraphs that (at the minimum) should be merged: |
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:*Piper interviews ] Frankie Williams, tells him that he's worthless and beats him up. This is where Piper coins one of his famous quotes: "Just when they think they've got the answers, I change the questions." |
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:*] ] ] on ], comes onto the set with ], and challenges him to a match at ], and rips off his shirt and crucifix before walking off the set with Heenan as well. In the process of ripping the shirt and crucifix, Andre's fingernail penetrated Hogan's skin, accidentally causing him to bleed, which Piper noticed and said to Hogan, "You're bleeding". Piper shocked many fans by actually comforting Hogan and leading him offstage. About a week later, Hogan returned to the pit to give his answer to whether or not he'll take Andre's challenge; "YEEEEEEEEEEESSS!" |
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:Another noteworthy event to add would be HBK turning on his then tag partner ] superkicking him through the plate glass window. ] ] </span>) 05:01, 15 June 2011 (UTC) |
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::That was actually a segement called the Barber Shop and was hosted by Brutis Beefcake. AFIK it has nothing to do with Pipers Pit. I think that the attack on the Superfly may be a good extra addition though.--] (]) 03:54, 16 June 2011 (UTC) |
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*For the time being, a merger seems like the best idea. I believe the subject is notable, but it needs to be rewritten and sourced. Unless someone is willing and able to do that now, a merger until someone can make a Piper's Pit article that meets the notability requirements seems like the way to go. ] (]) 23:20, 16 June 2011 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 1 August 2015 == |
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{{edit semi-protected|Roddy Piper|answered=yes}} |
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Under the section about his death, it states Dusty Rhodes died 3 weeks earlier. It was closer to 7 weeks. |
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] (]) 21:17, 1 August 2015 (UTC) |
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:I changed Dusty Rhodes's death to June 2015. ] (]) 21:22, 1 August 2015 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 2 August 2015 == |
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{{edit semi-protected|Roddy Piper|answered=yes}} |
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Under the section about his TNA run, it states he debuted in 2013, this should be ammended to 2003, which is the correct year as stated in the sub-heading. Thank you. |
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==Piper "was named as the top villain in wrestling history by WWE"?== |
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I'm here to challenge the inclusion of this. WWE is not an independent source, and I feel their opinion on what Piper did has little value. If Slam Sports says he's the best villain ever, that's fine, but WWE hyping one of their employees is different. ] (]) 14:12, 24 October 2015 (UTC) |
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:The two sources that I added are independent sources, but you deleted them both. This establishes notability for the claim. ] (]) 15:24, 24 October 2015 (UTC) |
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::They're not independent ''opinions'', though. ] (]) 19:51, 24 October 2015 (UTC) |
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:::That's my point exactly. The fact that multiple independent reliable sources give the same information demonstrates that the information is notable. I get that you don't like WWE's opinions or think that they should be taken as fact; Misplaced Pages is a place where statements that are verifiable in independent reliable sources are believed to be sufficiently notable for inclusion, however. ] (]) 21:14, 24 October 2015 (UTC) |
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Rod learned his piping in his early teens, under the Pipe Master Jock Campbell in Scarborough Ontario, Canada. He was in a boy’s pipe band that progressed to be one of the best bands in the Highland Games in Ontario, Quebec and the northern states of America. He was a lovely friend of the Drum Major, George White, his wife Mae and family He was also welcome at our house, my brother Rob was also in the band with Rod. They practiced at the Scarborough Rec Centre at Warden and Ellesmere. We travelled with them to competitions, Fergus, Kingston, Kincardin,Maxwell,Alma NY,any weekend Games for the support of the band and the boys. Jock was a Master Piper from Scotland and my father was a locally taught piper from Toronto who believed in the boys, so he gave his help in teaching Rod was very accomplished, with many awards in competitions, as we’re all band members with their piers who were their elders Rod was always polite and curtious to all. The persona that he displayed , I believe is what he wanted to put out as hi act, not who he truly was God Bless You Rod, love Nance 2605:B100:117:1F73:A88C:73DD:48B:BD66 (talk) 11:25, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
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