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	I judged that the WP article lacked in my view the most important information about Darwinius Masillae, which is that the authors claim to have identified six synapomorphies of DM with Haplorrhines. Now, to include accuses of cherry-picking some traits without this info is like saying the authors are fools, therefore such critique must be placed in context. Recall Einstein: one could have said that two experiments (Michelson-Morley and Mercury's precession) were just merely two out of the thousands experiments, and so special relativity had to be dismissed altogether as an absurdity (actually, somebody did suggest it). This is irrational. The authors never claimed that they were making an exhaustive and all-encompassing list of the 200-400 (whatever) traits one could imagine in his head could be looked at. They merely stated that out of 30 "commonly" used which they checked, there were 6 that could not be explained if one assumed DM was a lemur and that lemurs were all Strepsirrhines. One can contest this, of course. But even if you check 200-400 traits, you still have at least six of them that don't fit. Nobody, as yet, has contested this. Finally, I didn't add in the requirement for citations, but the generic phrase "''Paleontologists have expressed concern that the cladistic analysis compared only 30 traits, when standard practice is to analyze 200 to 400 traits and to include fossils such as anthropoids from Egypt and the primate genus Eosimias which were not included in the analysis''" should be substantiated by names and references. Feel free to improve the text I added in. --] (]) 13:32, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
	:From memory, reference 9 covers the whole of the paragraph before the point where it's cited, but this is confused by a citation to the PLoS paper by Franken et al. Reference 9, Ann Gibbons (19 May 2009). ""Revolutionary" Fossil Fails to Dazzle Paleontologists -- Gibbons 2009 (519): 1 -- ScienceNOW is now hidden behind a subscription wall, so a check by someone with access to AAAS publications would allow clarification. . ], ] 15:44, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
	:Update, have found a copy at , that confirms it. They say "many palaeontologists" but name three, so I've made it a number of palaeontologists, and removed the confusing Plos link. . ], ] 15:56, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

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	== Concerns over taxonomy ==
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	Various concerns have been stated about the taxonomy, in recent edits the part of the taxonomy section dealing with these concerns was made into a new section, then moved below the publicity section. As this is clearly contrary to ], I've undone the last move, and changed it to a subsection about concerns over taxonomy. In some ways it may be better to keep it as one section, but either way the information is clearly directly related to the taxonomy. . ], ] 15:35, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

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	== stem group? ==

			Cheers.—]<small><sub style="margin-left:-14.9ex;color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS;">]:Online</sub></small> 03:13, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
	The article currently begins:
	:"Darwinius is a genus of Adapiformes, a group of basal or stem group primates from the Eocene epoch."

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	] links the the relevant article, but the term seems to be used incorrectly. Paleontologists may disagree about where ] or ]s belong in primate phylogeny, but most seem to agree that they're ] primates. The authors describing Ida think she may be a stem ], while most workers think she's a stem ], but in either case she's descended from the last common ancestor of both groups.
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	We may be better off leaving "basal", with explanation if needed, and removing "stem group".
	] (]) 05:17, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

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	:As there is no set consensus of the detail of the early branching of the primate tree, any use of detailed cladistic terms like stem group and crown group would be "taking side" in the current discourse. "Basal" is an apt description. ] (]) 08:46, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

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	The article now says adapiformes are "a group of alleged basal primates . . . ". The qualifier might be misread as casting doubt on their status as primates, which isn't in dispute. Moreover, it seems to me that adapiformes are basal (early-diverging) primates regardless of whether they're stem haplorhines (per Franzen ''et al.'') or stem strepsirhines (per Seiffert ''et al.''). I think it's best to remove the adjective. ] (]) 16:16, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
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	== Discovery and acquisition ==

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	This section doens't explain how the two plates were put together (supposedly in 2007). Was Plate B bought, donated or what? And who was the first to notice its similarities with Plate A? Thanks to whoever may add this info. ] (]) 18:02, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

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	== No longer considered a human ancestor or even closely related ==

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	See . ] (]) 15:27, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

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	Well, I tend to avoid the sweeping statements of the media (who believed all this stuff in the first place). For those with access, a more sober reflection is in a recent issue of Nature magazine, which I've linked to in the article itself - Nature 461, 1040 (2009). I think the 'Concerns over cladistic analysis' section is a reasonable reflection of the views at the moment. ] (]) 12:50, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

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	:I added content and references relating to the news story Seregain linked to above two days ago. It's an important analysis, but certainly doesn't end the discussion. ]<span style="color:grey;">&</span>] 15:47, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
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	::I agree that it shouldn't end the discussion at all, but half of the early references on this article (I believe several of which are still up) come from those same sources that were removed with the addition that I had written. Both the original story and the followups that were posted were quickly posted and circulated on those sites... I don't see why the links I posted should have been removed as they are sources just as valid as many used for the original story. ] (]) 19:39, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

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	:::My point is that we don't write articles by making additions to the lead. Your addition was also too chatty and non-specific; it gave little real information on what has been found by Seiffert et al. The content you added is already in the body of the article and is represented in the lead generally by reference to dissent from the classification: "Others have disagreed with this", with a reference to a news story in ''Nature'' about this latest study. If you want to expand the mention of the latest study in the lead, add it to that paragraph, not as a new paragraph at the end of the lead. ]<span style="color:grey;">&</span>] 23:36, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
	::::Okay, done. I added the link to the appropriate paragraph as you mentioned and I didn't add any more "chatty" or "non-specific" information to the article. Thanks for the clarification! ] (]) 21:15, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

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