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== Fictophilia is not considered a paraphilia, according to the source cited. ==
== should autogynephilia be removed? ==


The source does not specify that fictoromanticism or fictophilia is considered a psychological paraphilia. In fact, it states that it is currently not listed as one of these, and that not enough is known to consider it one. This entry should be removed from the list of paraphilias.
Autogynephilia is the paraphilia in which a male is attracted to himself as a woman in my opinion this should be removed because it pseudo science used to justify transphobia.


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the term autogynephilia cam from a study done in the 1980s where the reserchers claimed that there are two types of transgender people "homosexual transvestic men" and "autogynephiles" (they seemed to be unaware of transmen and non-binary people). They claimed that autogynephiles are men who have gender dysphoria that are attracted to woman the "evidence" for this is that "autogynephiles" fantasize about having sex as a woman but if someone sees themself as a woman then they would fantasize about being a woman so it's not a paraphilia. The study was controversial even when it first came out and no reputable phycological organizations (world health organization, American physiatrist association, and others) recognize this model of transgenderism. I think "autogynephiles" are just lesbian and bisexual transwoman who are labeled as sexaully perverted to make them seem invalid
"Second, the present intention is not to propose fictophilia as a problem or a disorder. At the time of writing, fictophilia is not recognized or proposed as a specific diagnostic condition by the World Health Organization (ICD-11) or the American Psychiatric Association (DSM-5) (but see ‘paraphilia’ in both manuals). Our findings do not indicate a need to change the current state of affairs. ] (]) 20:22, 19 April 2024 (UTC)


== Transvestophilia ==
What are you guys opinions? <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 02:39, 7 November 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:One has to distinguish the concept of autogynephilia itself from the hypothesis that it can cause gender dysphoria and transgender identity. While the latter is controversial, the former is not so much. In fact, autogynephilia is mentioned in the DSM-5 in the context of ]. <span style="font-family:Palatino">]</span> <sup>]</sup> 04:31, 7 November 2021 (UTC)


The description for it shouldn't be "A cross-dressing partner", considering it redirects to "Attraction to transgender people". Cross-dressing doesnt make you trans. I think that either this should have the description changed, or make a new section thing for it ] (]) 01:23, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
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== Semi-protected edit request on 4 September 2024 ==
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: You misunderstand the distinction between a ] and a ]. ] (]) 16:28, 13 September 2022 (UTC)


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== Attraction towards trans people is not a paraphilia ==
According to the alphabetical style of this list, underneath the existing entry for "sophophilia" and above the entry for "sthenolagnia" I request the addition of "splanchnophilia." The definition of this word is "a sexual arousal in response to viscera and internal organs." While this paraphilia is very uncommon, it does exist, and was used by forensic psychiatrist "Dr. Park Dietz" in reference to Jeffrey Dahmer. ] (]) 19:15, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
:] '''Not done:''' please provide ] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> ] (]) 20:24, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
::https://journals.charlotte.edu/urj/article/view/1096/1155
:: ] (]) 01:24, 5 September 2024 (UTC)


== Spectrophilia ==
Stating that attraction towards trans men or trans women is a paraphilia is pretty obviously transphobic. Attraction towards, say, intersex people isn’t included which suggests that attraction towards trans people is some sort of fetish, which is very transphobic rhetoric. ] (]) 03:07, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

Why isn't ] in the list? ] (]) 23:13, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

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A revert I'm unhappy with

I added the following at the outset: Recently-coined names for paraphilias (abasiophilia, algolagnia, etc.) typically have a Greek origin.

This was reverted by EvergreenFir because it was not documented.

Documentation is not required for items easily verifiable. Anyone who goes to a dictionary can see these terms are coined from Greek. Is a source saying so really required?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Deisenbe (talk • contribs)

Fictophilia is not considered a paraphilia, according to the source cited.

The source does not specify that fictoromanticism or fictophilia is considered a psychological paraphilia. In fact, it states that it is currently not listed as one of these, and that not enough is known to consider it one. This entry should be removed from the list of paraphilias.

Source text: "Second, the present intention is not to propose fictophilia as a problem or a disorder. At the time of writing, fictophilia is not recognized or proposed as a specific diagnostic condition by the World Health Organization (ICD-11) or the American Psychiatric Association (DSM-5) (but see ‘paraphilia’ in both manuals). Our findings do not indicate a need to change the current state of affairs. GrilledSoup (talk) 20:22, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Transvestophilia

The description for it shouldn't be "A cross-dressing partner", considering it redirects to "Attraction to transgender people". Cross-dressing doesnt make you trans. I think that either this should have the description changed, or make a new section thing for it Smirkjuice (talk) 01:23, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

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According to the alphabetical style of this list, underneath the existing entry for "sophophilia" and above the entry for "sthenolagnia" I request the addition of "splanchnophilia." The definition of this word is "a sexual arousal in response to viscera and internal organs." While this paraphilia is very uncommon, it does exist, and was used by forensic psychiatrist "Dr. Park Dietz" in reference to Jeffrey Dahmer. Kibblecat (talk) 19:15, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Jamedeus (talk) 20:24, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
https://journals.charlotte.edu/urj/article/view/1096/1155
https://www.zimbardo.com/splanchnophilia-psychology-definition-history-examples/#:~:text=Splanchnophilia%20is%20a%20psychological%20condition,another%20person's%20internal%20bodily%20structures. Kibblecat (talk) 01:24, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Spectrophilia

Why isn't spectrophilia in the list? 2601:282:1C02:5700:0:0:0:D488 (talk) 23:13, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

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