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			== Fictophilia is not considered a paraphilia, according to the source cited. ==
	== Sapiosexual ==

			The source does not specify that fictoromanticism or fictophilia is considered a psychological paraphilia. In fact, it states that it is currently not listed as one of these, and that not enough is known to consider it one. This entry should be removed from the list of paraphilias.
	"Arousal by the intelligence of other people" --] (]) 12:57, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
	:And where is your ]-compliant source that says that ] is a paraphilia? ] (]) 13:18, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
	::{{ping\|Flyer22 Reborn}} See "Sapiosexual" per the and the quotations where the word is used. --] ] - ] 16:03, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
	:::], wikis are not ]. And looking at the sourcing there, I see weak sourcing and nothing that states that sapiosexual is a paraphilia. "Sapiosexual" is a ] that hasn't gained enough traction in the scholarly literature. It's mainly a media term. Per ], this is why it doesn't have its own Misplaced Pages article. And it being a redirect was recently discussed: ].

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	:::On a side note: Since the List of paraphilias article is on my watchlist, I prefer not to be pinged to it. ] (]) 19:02, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
			"Second, the present intention is not to propose fictophilia as a problem or a disorder. At the time of writing, fictophilia is not recognized or proposed as a specific diagnostic condition by the World Health Organization (ICD-11) or the American Psychiatric Association (DSM-5) (but see ‘paraphilia’ in both manuals). Our findings do not indicate a need to change the current state of affairs. ] (]) 20:22, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
	::::Thanks for the new page to read - will keep that watchlisted and will keep that in mind for any future discussions. --] ] - ] 19:04, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

	== ~~More philias~~ ==		== Transvestophilia ==

			The description for it shouldn't be "A cross-dressing partner", considering it redirects to "Attraction to transgender people". Cross-dressing doesnt make you trans. I think that either this should have the description changed, or make a new section thing for it ] (]) 01:23, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
	I found of sexual paraphilias and noticed that many of them are missing from this page. I don't think that a blog makes for a compelling source though, so I haven't added them to this page, but I wanted to share the list here so that those with access to suitable sources can use it. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 10:44, 10 February 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:Not a ]. ] (]) 08:34, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

			== Semi-protected edit request on 4 September 2024 ==
	: Is ] a philia (Maiseiophilia)? This was "discovered" in the early 1990s in the first wave of western culture's so-called "new" sexualization and erotic fascination with pregnancy. It isn't listed anywhere in the article, should it be included? ] (]) 01:43, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

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	== Hypnosis as a paraphilia ==
			According to the alphabetical style of this list, underneath the existing entry for "sophophilia" and above the entry for "sthenolagnia" I request the addition of "splanchnophilia." The definition of this word is "a sexual arousal in response to viscera and internal organs." While this paraphilia is very uncommon, it does exist, and was used by forensic psychiatrist "Dr. Park Dietz" in reference to Jeffrey Dahmer. ] (]) 19:15, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
			:] '''Not done:''' please provide ] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> ] (]) 20:24, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
			::https://journals.charlotte.edu/urj/article/view/1096/1155
			:: ] (]) 01:24, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

			== Spectrophilia ==
	Here is a recent essay by Distinguished Psychology professor ] describing unusual sexual arousal from hypnosis as a paraphilia <ref name=griffiths>{{cite web \|url=https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/in-excess/201612/hypnosis-and-sexual-health \|title=Hypnosis And Sexual Health \|last=Griffiths \|first=Mark D. \|date=2016-12-14 \|website=] \|publisher= \|access-date=2020-02-10 \|quote=}}</ref>. It does not appear in the DSM-5 as a paraphilia, but there are a number of case studies in the psychiatric literature that establish the existence of individuals with "experience of intense sexual arousal" to atypical fantasies about hypnosis, e.g.: <ref name=merrill>{{cite journal \|last1=Merrill \|first1=George G. \|last2= \|first2= \|date=1957 \|title=Sexual complications of hypnosis \|url= \|journal=Journal of Clinical and Experimental Hypnosis \|volume=5 \|issue=3 \|pages=138-146 \|doi=10.1080/00207145708410731 \|access-date= }}</ref>
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	\|text=To many hypnotic subjects, hypnosis has strong sexual connotations. Freud ( 2 ) recognized this and mentioned the similarity between the states of hypnosis and of being in love. Sciiilder and Kanders(3) stress the erotic aspects of hypnosis and warn that sexual accusations may be made against the therapist. Speyer and Stokvis(4) studied the sexual fantasies of the hypnotic subject, and emphasized the importance of the subject’s erotic attitudes toward the therapist. Lorand(5) pointed out the subject’s unconscious desire for seduction by the hypnotist and correlated hypnotizability with yielding to the one from whom love was expected. Wolberg(6) also mentions the sexual attitude toward hypnosis in patients who have strong unconscious sexual needs. Kline(7) describes some types of sexual reactions during hypnotherapy and discusses their nature.}}

			Why isn't ] in the list? ] (]) 23:13, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
	In a 2017 study, 4% of women in one group freely reported "Sex while drugged/mind control/hypnosis" as a fantasy
	<ref name=yule>{{cite journal \|last1=Yule \|first1=Morag A. \|last2=Brotto \|first2=Lori A. \|last3=Gorzalka \|first3=Boris B. \|date=2017 \|title=Sexual Fantasy and Masturbation Among Asexual Individuals: An In-Depth Exploration \|url= \|journal=Archives of Sexual Behavior \|volume=46 \|issue= \|pages=311–328 \|doi=10.1007/s10508-016-0870-8 \|access-date= }}</ref>

	It could also be considered a sexual fetish, but ''paraphilia'' is an even better fit since the focus is not on a specific object but rather an activity or a set of fantasy scenarios, much like ], ], or ]. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small>

	:Those sources are not ]-compliant. Griffiths's commentary is only good enough to relay it as something he thinks, but it still doesn't belong in this article. And we shouldn't be using sources that don't explicitly identify the matter as a paraphilia. Nor should we be using very old sources, such as those from 1957, for this list. And considering all of this, the ] article needs work. I was correct to the content. ] (]) 21:56, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

	:And looking for academic sources on the topic of erotic hypnosis, it seems that the article should not even exist because the topic is not ]. ] (]) 22:01, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

	:: From what I'm hearing, it's important that unusual sexual interests be explicitly labelled a "paraphilia" in a medical text before they should appear on this list, and I have not found such a citation.

	:: Very much agreed that ] is in a poor state at the moment. Thank you for pointing out that it should have evidence of significant independent coverage. I have added a number of those citations in the Talk page for now, but I will be using their contents to fill in the article. ] (]) 06:04, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
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	== more philas part 2 ==

	here is another list I found https://blogjob.com/lifeandliving/2014/08/24/list-of-fetishes/ <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 20:53, 4 March 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	here is another list I found https://thoughtcatalog.com/sylvie-quinn/2018/05/sexual-fetishes/

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A revert I'm unhappy with

I added the following at the outset: Recently-coined names for paraphilias (abasiophilia, algolagnia, etc.) typically have a Greek origin.

This was reverted by EvergreenFir because it was not documented.

Documentation is not required for items easily verifiable. Anyone who goes to a dictionary can see these terms are coined from Greek. Is a source saying so really required?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Deisenbe (talk • contribs)

Fictophilia is not considered a paraphilia, according to the source cited.

The source does not specify that fictoromanticism or fictophilia is considered a psychological paraphilia. In fact, it states that it is currently not listed as one of these, and that not enough is known to consider it one. This entry should be removed from the list of paraphilias.

Source text: "Second, the present intention is not to propose fictophilia as a problem or a disorder. At the time of writing, fictophilia is not recognized or proposed as a specific diagnostic condition by the World Health Organization (ICD-11) or the American Psychiatric Association (DSM-5) (but see ‘paraphilia’ in both manuals). Our findings do not indicate a need to change the current state of affairs. GrilledSoup (talk) 20:22, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Transvestophilia

The description for it shouldn't be "A cross-dressing partner", considering it redirects to "Attraction to transgender people". Cross-dressing doesnt make you trans. I think that either this should have the description changed, or make a new section thing for it Smirkjuice (talk) 01:23, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

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According to the alphabetical style of this list, underneath the existing entry for "sophophilia" and above the entry for "sthenolagnia" I request the addition of "splanchnophilia." The definition of this word is "a sexual arousal in response to viscera and internal organs." While this paraphilia is very uncommon, it does exist, and was used by forensic psychiatrist "Dr. Park Dietz" in reference to Jeffrey Dahmer. Kibblecat (talk) 19:15, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Jamedeus (talk) 20:24, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

https://journals.charlotte.edu/urj/article/view/1096/1155

https://www.zimbardo.com/splanchnophilia-psychology-definition-history-examples/#:~:text=Splanchnophilia%20is%20a%20psychological%20condition,another%20person's%20internal%20bodily%20structures. Kibblecat (talk) 01:24, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Spectrophilia

Why isn't spectrophilia in the list? 2601:282:1C02:5700:0:0:0:D488 (talk) 23:13, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

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