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== Semi-protected edit request on 16 April 2024 == |
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== RfC of interest == |
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<small>(non-automated message)</small> Greetings! I have opened an RfC on ] that may be of interest to users following this article talk page! You are encouraged to contribute to this discussion ]! '''''] ] (])''''' 20:00, 24 November 2023 (UTC) |
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Unlike other British monarchs are Protestant, King George was isn't Anglican, but holds Protestantism in Scotland. ] (]) 13:00, 16 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a ] and provide a ] if appropriate.<!-- Template:ESp --> <b>]]</b> (] · he/him) 13:59, 16 April 2024 (UTC) |
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== George III - Slavery == |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 22 December 2023 == |
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New Wiki user, & not a George scholar: upon reading the “Slavery” section someone called “Pitt” is referenced without first name or understanding of who that is. Reference should be fleshed out. I will leave amendements to someone more invested & certain than me. ] (]) 17:07, 29 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:It's Pitt the Younger, who was one of George's prime ministers. ] (]) 07:14, 30 April 2024 (UTC) |
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Please insert the following (including the picture) after "George allowed Pitt to increase taxes, raise armies, and suspend the right of habeas corpus.": |
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::He should probably be disambiguated with his father ], who was also a Prime Minister. Pitt supported slavery, because it was "one of Britain's most profitable businesses". By contrast, his successor ] passed the ] and prohibited the slave trade in the ]. ] (]) 14:46, 30 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:::Would this benefit from a very short inline qualifier, as recommended in ]?--] (]) 15:17, 30 April 2024 (UTC) |
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::::"]" is not sufficiently clear and distinct from "]"? What additional qualify would you suggest? ] (]) 15:27, 30 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::Following the suggestion in ]: just a very short bit of context so as "not force a reader to use that link to understand the sentence", making it easier for users reading in print or otherwise offline.--] (]) 16:56, 30 April 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::Well yes, sure. But what exactly? Thanks. ] (]) 17:10, 30 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:::I disambiguated from the father, so I do not need to be told that he should probably be disambiguated. ] (]) 07:01, 3 May 2024 (UTC) |
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== Reign == |
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]'s satirical print of George being attacked on his way to opening Parliament, 1795|alt=George's carriage is stoned and attacked by club-wielding Republican protesters, one breaking the window with a blunderbuss blast. A French Republic tricolour emblazoned "PEACE and BREAD" flies in the background. William Pitt is the coachman and the horses have trampled Britannia]] |
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Pitt ] in 1794, and in October 1795, crowds attacked George's carriage on his way to opening Parliament, demanding an end to the war and lower bread prices.<ref>{{cite book |last=Thompson|first=E. P. |author-link=E. P. Thompson |date=1966 |title=The Making of the English Working Class |location=New York |publisher=Vintage Books |page=144 |isbn=0-394-70322-7}}</ref> In response, Parliament passed the "two acts", the ] and ] a month later. ] (]) 17:02, 22 December 2023 (UTC) |
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Queen Elizabeth II is the longest British reign: 70 years. ] (]) 03:57, 21 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:There is a 2002 edition of Thompson available online which provides more detail. The carriage window was shattered, probably by a pebble and he thought he had been shot. ] (]) 17:21, 22 December 2023 (UTC) |
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:I've added the text but not the image. There are already 3 images in that section including two Gillray cartoons. ] (]) 07:03, 23 December 2023 (UTC) |
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:Very true - and not contradicted by this article, which states that George was the longest reigning '''male''' monarch. ] (]) 06:12, 21 May 2024 (UTC) |
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== Bipolar diagnosis == |
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::@] I'm sorry, I've only just noticed your comment. ] (]) 07:19, 6 September 2024 (UTC) |
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:::No problem. And in reply to your earlier question, George III did speak English fluently. ] (]) 07:47, 6 September 2024 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 23 September 2024 == |
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Bipolar disorder is widely considered a psychiatric, not a psychological diagnosis. Reference DSM5 (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual Mental Disorders) ] (]) 04:05, 15 February 2024 (UTC) |
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:] just says "previously known as manic depression, is a mental disorder..." But yes, I think "psychiatric" fits better with the source there, ] (2023), so have changed it as suggested. ] (]) 21:24, 4 March 2024 (UTC) |
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When Pitt came to office in December 1784, George III was desperate. Replying to a letter from Pitt regarding permission for certain ministerial appointments to take place the King replied that 'To one on the Edge of a Precipice every ray of hope must be pleasing'.<ref>Alter 'Pitt' Volume 1 (2024) ''p'' 57</ref> |
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* {{cite book |last= Alter |first= J-M |author-link=J-M Alter |title= A New Biography of William Pitt the Younger-Volume 1- Years of Establishment 1759-1798 |edition=First Paperback |year=2024 |publisher=Independent on Amazon |isbn=979-8333204790}} ] (]) 17:41, 23 September 2024 (UTC) |
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== Outdated language == |
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:While written by an historian, we don't usually use self-published sources or sources that are focused on people other than George III. ] (]) 19:08, 23 September 2024 (UTC) |
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I am not a Misplaced Pages editor and have no idea about standards and so on, hence why I wouldn't dare to edit the page myself, but I would like to point out that this article contains some outdated language that could be improved. |
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Under the section 'Final years' there is a reference to his deteriorated health and a final relapse of his mental health that he did not recover from, which is worded as 'permanently insane'. The lack of quotation marks seems to indicate that this isn't a direct quote, so I have to assume that it is a dated choice of words by an editor of times past. |
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I would argue that in current times, using the term 'insane' to indicate mental health problems and/or symptoms is offensive and unnecessarily stigmatising. I would suggest using less problematic language, such as what I wrote above to describe the context. |
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If the phrasing in question is in fact a direct quote, it would be beneficial to make that clear, so that the phrase can be understood in historical context. |
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My thanks goes out to the community of editors for considering the sentiment above. ] (]) 20:59, 4 March 2024 (UTC) |
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:As far as I can see from the sources, ] (1999) certainly uses that word, so yes, maybe the phrase should be in quotes. I see that ] (1975) also uses that word, but not in quite that exact context. Maybe "an editor of times past", but more likely one just trying to follow Hibbert and Fraser? ] (]) 21:17, 4 March 2024 (UTC) |
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Unlike other British monarchs are Protestant, King George was isn't Anglican, but holds Protestantism in Scotland. ] (]) 13:00, 16 April 2024 (UTC) |
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New Wiki user, & not a George scholar: upon reading the “Slavery” section someone called “Pitt” is referenced without first name or understanding of who that is. Reference should be fleshed out. I will leave amendements to someone more invested & certain than me. Putzac (talk) 17:07, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
When Pitt came to office in December 1784, George III was desperate. Replying to a letter from Pitt regarding permission for certain ministerial appointments to take place the King replied that 'To one on the Edge of a Precipice every ray of hope must be pleasing'.
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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:59, 16 April 2024 (UTC)