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	== Bias ==

	This article reads from a very leftist perspective, thanks in large part to relying upon left-wing sources. There are important game theory applications of this term and nowhere does this discuss the "Delaware Effect" (opposite of the "California Effect" which has been called "race to the top" before Obama lifted the term). I imagine one could make a ] argument to have this deleted. <span class="nowrap" style="font-family:copperplate gothic light;">] (])</span> 19:19, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

	:Probably from your perspective, the very thing, the concept of a race to the bottom is left biased. Certainly the notion that wages are low is a left perspective, by rightist perspective they can't be too low, the lower the better for "entrepreneurship". Contrary to what you say, the main space text and much of the back matter make clear the opposite is the case (the immediately prior comment is an (accurate if inarticulate) exception). I have corrected this by at least making clear what the metaphor is about. The ubiquity of right wing perspectives, while in rapid decay from the pile up of its effects, allows such obvious glaring mistakes of fact. ] (]) 06:04, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

	::The clarification I've added to the lede was stimulated by the tagging which is justified by the right wing obfuscation of the meaning of the term just referred to. I would remove the tag but the body of the article still so solidly reflects that obfuscation that it is still justified. ] (]) 09:48, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

	== This is not an example of "race to the bottom", it is NOT the definition. ==


	The entire article is predicated on an article called "racing to the bottom". This is a mistake, because that article may be an example of race to the bottom, but it is not the definition.

	The term "race to the bottom" has always included inter- and intra-company decisions that among many things involve the decisions to lower quality in order to compete in volume. It's actually a fairly economically terrifying dynamic playing out today, and this article is only confusing people.
	] (]) 12:40, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

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	== Bias ==

	This article reads from a very leftist perspective, thanks in large part to relying upon left-wing sources. There are important game theory applications of this term and nowhere does this discuss the "Delaware Effect" (opposite of the "California Effect" which has been called "race to the top" before Obama lifted the term). I imagine one could make a ] argument to have this deleted. <span class="nowrap" style="font-family:copperplate gothic light;">] (])</span> 19:19, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

	:Probably from your perspective, the very thing, the concept of a race to the bottom is left biased. Certainly the notion that wages are low is a left perspective, by rightist perspective they can't be too low, the lower the better for "entrepreneurship". Contrary to what you say, the main space text and much of the back matter make clear the opposite is the case (the immediately prior comment is an (accurate if inarticulate) exception). I have corrected this by at least making clear what the metaphor is about. The ubiquity of right wing perspectives, while in rapid decay from the pile up of its effects, allows such obvious glaring mistakes of fact. ] (]) 06:04, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

	::The clarification I've added to the lede was stimulated by the tagging which is justified by the right wing obfuscation of the meaning of the term just referred to. I would remove the tag but the body of the article still so solidly reflects that obfuscation that it is still justified. ] (]) 09:48, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

	== This is not an example of "race to the bottom", it is NOT the definition. ==


	The entire article is predicated on an article called "racing to the bottom". This is a mistake, because that article may be an example of race to the bottom, but it is not the definition.

	The term "race to the bottom" has always included inter- and intra-company decisions that among many things involve the decisions to lower quality in order to compete in volume. It's actually a fairly economically terrifying dynamic playing out today, and this article is only confusing people.
	] (]) 12:40, 13 March 2021 (UTC)