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The article currently says he is "the Leader of the Labour Party and the Leader of the Opposition", but for anyone without the background it is not obvious at all that he's from the UK. It should probably say he is "the Leader of the Labour Party and the Leader of the Opposition of the United Kingdom", with the appropriate links. |
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== Department names == |
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This phrase does not make sense: "He has worked in an economic capacity since". Does it mean he worked as an economist? Or that he has been economica; with his work? I have removed the phrase, but would appreciate it if this could be replaced by what the original editor meant to say. ] (]) 11:59, 6 February 2008 (UTC) |
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Ed was head of Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change from 2008 to 2010. This is a slighly different department from Secretary of State for Energy Security and Net Zero which is the role he currently holds. I think his 2008 role should be split out from his current role. ] (]) 10:36, 8 July 2024 (UTC) |
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"Ed Miliband, despite having a broken wrist, was able to beat off Michael Dugher, ", Is this meant to be a double entendre? |
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== political career == |
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The scottish election bit is out of temporal order, need moving to before 'Doncaster North'. Could someone please action? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 23:53, 15 June 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== personal life == |
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The web link for his girlfriend's work is down, I wonder why? |
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Also does anyone know why he lives quite so close to his brother David? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 00:41, 25 March 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Religion == |
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Who's the twit who put the Jewish thing back in? Did you read the source? Being from a Jewish background does not mean you are Jewish in the religious sense. I would guess that, like his whole family, Ed is an atheist, or agnostic. And the reference I removed, reporting a speech to a Jewish community group never said that Ed is Jewish in the religious sense. I get the feeling some editors have an obsession with pointing out people are Jewish. Get over it. '''<font color="red">]</font><font color="gold">]</font>''' 09:21, 16 May 2010 (UTC) |
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Why not put him under "Jewish Atheists" then? His brother's in that category, then surely he should too? I apologise for adding him to it a while back, I didn't realise there was such a large discussion. ] (]) 11:09, 20 June 2010 (UTC) |
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:Is there anything to say it is at all important to him or is a notable citable thing in his life? |
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::If his brother (David Milliband) is classed as a "jewish atheist" why should Ed "surely" be that too - They each have minds of their own. Whatever David Milliband holds to ideologically, philosophically, or religiously tells us nothing about his brother. They '''may''' have similar views, they may not. They '''may''' be ideologically in agreeance and differ in specifics. But there can be no necessary correspondence drawn from one to the other, merely because they are brothers. Can we either have some '''solid''' references on each of their positions or nothing. No more guesswork please.] (]) 12:31, 30 July 2010 (UTC) |
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He is Jewish because his mother was, end of discussion. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 16:59, 25 September 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Well, yeah, ]. Of course it is politically irrelevant, it should be -- but he is Jewish. Muslim voters will regard him as such. Britain defines Jewishness non-racially and instead by religious practice. See ''']'''. But whatever the argument, he is, I believe, the first Jewish leader of the Labour party and this is a fair milestone to be included in the article. Shall we just insert "is the first Labour leader from a Jewish background ... or family ... or of Polish-Jewish heritage." Aren't those okay and notable points? To just leave it out altogether seems silly, even if it is in the categories. Which you may of course continue to have arguments about. If people want to keep this fact out of the article because they are worried about Muslim voter reaction, well I can see why you are so worried. But this ''encyclopaedia'' must be ''truthful'' and ''complete''. --] (]) 19:15, 25 September 2010 (UTC) |
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== Punk-rock band == |
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Just removed: He was also in a punk-rock band called "Squashed Psyche" from the age of 13 to the age of 17, together with two of his friends. The band was only recreational and never went any further. |
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Speaking on BBC Radio 2, Jeremy Vine, 01.07.2010 - stated it is not true - but has not yet removed it from wikipedia. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 11:58, 1 July 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Tony Benn leadership "support" is false - please read. == |
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I am removing the piece of information that Tony Benn endorsed E Miliband for leader. See below for an explanation of why I think this is a false piece of information borne out of confusion and irresponsible reportage. ] (]) 21:42, 25 September 2010 (UTC) |
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''This is a C&P from ].'' |
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Just to clear up Benn's "support" for Ed Miliband. This all stems from an interview with ] on ] where Benn said he would back ] for the leadership. Then, when pressed to give his opinion on the Miliband brothers, he said he preferred Ed, who had worked for him as a young man. This "endorsement" was then picked up by the '']'' who ran a blog (now taken down) saying he was backing Ed Miliband. The rumour then wormed its way around the blogosphere, but in fact holds little truth. ] (]) 14:54, 5 August 2010 (UTC) |
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::The 5 Live interview has been uploaded to Youtube. This is a direct link to the interview passage - ] (]) 02:56, 7 September 2010 (UTC) |
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:::Seems reasonable, thanks. ] (]) 21:55, 25 September 2010 (UTC) |
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:::: - It's just worrying that this info can get in. I don't deny I am "interested" party but I want to make sure WP is telling the truth about the new Labour Leader. Thanks ]. ] (]) 22:02, 25 September 2010 (UTC) |
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:::::Well, things do become ] and as you say there was once a claimable source for it, even though it sounds extremely weak, thanks for your work. ] (]) 22:10, 25 September 2010 (UTC) |
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== He is Jewish not only by religion, but also by ethnicity. == |
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Add that his ethnicity is Jewish. ] (]) 04:34, 26 September 2010 (UTC) |
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:Please? Regarding his ethnicity, it is in the article and cited that he has a Jewish mother. As for the religion we need reliable citations that he is a follower or a practitioner of the Jewish faith and if it is a part of his notability or it something he has stated himself. ] (]) 06:01, 26 September 2010 (UTC) |
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Ed was head of Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change from 2008 to 2010. This is a slighly different department from Secretary of State for Energy Security and Net Zero which is the role he currently holds. I think his 2008 role should be split out from his current role. Fishyrabbit (talk) 10:36, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
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