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Tally was two delete, one keep, one propose to change to a different title (no vote). I understood that 75% is considered consensus... ] 22:12, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
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; What do I need to do?
Hi, yea actually I count the nomination as a vote as well. So we have 5 votes total; 3 del, 1 keep, 1 changed to rename. So that's 3/5 deletion, which is only 60%. I go off the basis of 70% for numbers/voting sakes, but read the discussion as well. You are welcome to resubmit the Cfd, maybe the outcome will be different, I personally thought it should have been deleted, per my vote, but try to remain impartial for closing. <font color=#FF0033>]</font>]] 23:13, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
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:I see... I will resubmit the CfD. Thanks. ] 23:19, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
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== Vandalism ==

"Please stop adding nonsense to Misplaced Pages. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. This includes adding content to userpages"
Even to my own userpage? The only one I've ever edited with nonsense is my own userpage. Any other edit I've made to another page was completely in good faith.] 18:58, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

That's the only one, which I admit was a mistake. I was just angry because he changed a picture I had uploaded to some random image of a map. I should have gone about it another way... {{unsigned2|19:03, 21 September 2005 |Facamus}}

:I edited his page after you sent me the first message. So what was your original complaint about? My userpage? If so, was I wrong in assuming that I can do what I wish with my own page? {{unsigned2|15:13, 21 September 2005|Facamus}}

::Well I dont give a fuck what you think you bitch ass motherfucker, fuck you and your bitch ass fake bike you fukin loser. You bitch made fag. FUCK YOU ASSHOLE FUCKING FAG PIECE OF SHIT FUCK YOU!!! ASSHOLE--<s>] 19:34, 21 September 2005 (UTC)</s> {{unsigned2|19:33, 21 September 2005 |69.105.58.28}}

:::Aww aint that sweet, a love note, for me?? <font color=#FF0033>]</font>]] 19:40, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

::I sent a nice note back, attached to a nice block. -- ] · ] 21:19, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
::::Thankies.. you weren't in when they did it, so I didn't bother to ask. <font color=#FF0033>]</font>]] 23:07, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

==Smiley==

You left me a smiley a while back, and it has since been deleted. Would you look at the list of emoticons on Meta and pick a suitable one to replace it? -- ] · ] 21:19, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
:Replaced, although not with one as good as the old one. I can't even remember what the old one looked like. I thought of getting one off the net, but finding good free images w/source is a pain sometimes. If I come across a good one, I will email the owner and ask for gnu release. <font color=#FF0033>]</font>]] 23:09, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

== my user page ==

thanks for the revert.
It must be school holidays again. ] 09:14, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

== yay ==

Glad you're getting sorted, and are OK. ] 23:47, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
:thanks *8-) <font color=#FF0033>]</font>]] 23:48, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

== Template:Test-b ==

Thanks for your input; I really appreciate it. I tried to read up on template protocal and found a link to Meta. That was uber-boring and fairly useless. I will read the links you gave me on Red's page so that I will know what to do in the future. Thanks again! ] ] 13:04, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

== :Category:Municipalities in México State ==

Thank you for the tip. I didn't notice there was speedy deletion for categories as well. -- ] ] 19:14, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

== RfA ==

Just to say thanks for supporting my RfA. Please let me know if you see me screw up anytime. --] ] 19:21, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

I saw that edit to my usertalk achive, but wasn't sure what to make of it...I'm not sure what he's talking about, but thanks for transplanting it where I might notice it.--] 20:02, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

==]==
I do not agree with the outcome you have declared here. I thought the guideline was that 70% approval is generally required for deletion. Also I do not think it is appropriate to declare the result in a category where your own vote might be considered to have tipped the balance as it puts you in the position of judge and jury. I make the result:
*Delete (7) - but this includes you and also the original nominator who said she was only concerned that it might become unwieldy.
*Neutral (1)
*Keep (4)
Without you it is only 60% for deletion, or 59% counting the indeterminate as 50/50 or 54.5% counting it as a keep. With you it is still below 70%. Any comments?
] 21:34, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

:I try to remain neutral when it comes to closings, I do not consider my feelings for the category, if you look at my voting/closing history, you will find that I have closed several discussions contrary to my vote. As for this one, I read the entire discussion, and it leaned toward deletion, I do not put a lot of weight on one user replying to another user if their comments do not sway the opinion. However, I missed a vote, but I count 11, not 12, which would make it 63% and not 70, so it would be a no consensus. I am not sure where you got the neutral vote, unless you count Angr's comment, inwhich he previously said delete. It was a simple mistake, and I appreciate you pointing it out. This is one reason I leave the discussions such as these up for a bit longer, even after closing. Either way, please understand the point that I remain neutral reguardless of my vote. <font color=#000000>]</font>]] 21:44, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
:::Thanks. By the way, I've recently used the categories for merger tag for the first time. ] 22:05, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

== He's the one who started everything. ==

I think that user:IMNOTEMICO is in fact a sockpuppet of Emico, who has been banned from editing some articles here due to his POV and rudeness towards others. He is the one who started the baseless accusations, and since I have proof that he is Emico's sockpuppet, I put the notice on his talk page.--] 22:04, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

== thanks ==

Thanks for neatening up the anon comment on my user talk page! Cheers, ] ] 00:21, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
:You're very welcome. Was hard to tell the message w/o a header :) <font color=#000000>]</font>]] 00:26, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my User page. I was so busy chasing other vandals I didn't even notice it... ] ] 04:14, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
:You're welcome, same thing happens to me. <font color=#000000>]</font>]] 04:19, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

== You must be really bored... ==

to be fixing up my talk page! lol =) But thanks for the nice aesthetics. ''']'''<span style="background-color:#C1FF5F">]|]</span> 05:07, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

:Hehe, I just hate unsigned comments :) Way too much Cfd work to be bored tho. <font color=#000000>]</font>]] 05:08, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

::Ah... you're one of 'em CfD warriors. Carry on! ''']'''<span style="background-color:#C1FF5F">]|]</span> 05:28, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

==Barnstar==
Im not sure whta i got a barnstar for either, but if u get a barnstar for no reason then i guess you gotta thank em. ]]] ] 05:16, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
*] {{unsigned2|05:32, 25 September 2005 |209.178.175.191}}

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**Uhm, ok. <font color=#000000>]</font>]] 05:35, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

===thank you===
Thank you I will try that. ] 06:11, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
: and for keeping an eye on mongo's talkpage :) ]] 10:41, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

== I am sorry, I tried to talk to ] but his talkpage is locked. ==
So, I have to use his user page to communicate with him. ] 13:27, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

==]==
The renaming of this to "Films directed by Powell and Pressburger" isn't completely correct. It's true that they were dual directors on many of the films, but on some of them, Pressburger was only the writer, but they are still considered films of "Powell and Pressburger". &mdash; <small>]] &bull; 2005-09-25 15:48</small>

How about just "Films by Powell and Pressburger" or "Films made by Powell and Pressburger" or "Films created by Powell and Pressburger"? Something along those lines would be alright. &mdash; <small>]] &bull; 2005-09-25 15:56</small>

== cfr tagging for renaming by-country categories ==

Hi - That was a good catch. Requiring cfr tags probably adds more inertia than some folks would like. There's going to be a suggestion to rename all the subcats ''of all the subcats'' of ] (perhaps several thousand categories) from "fooish <occupation name>" to "<occupation name> from foo". I think change without notice is generally a bad thing (although not as bad as deleting images without notice!), but may be OK in this case. We'll see how the discussion goes. -- {{unsigned2|16:22, 25 September 2005 |Rick Block}}

:The only draw back to not tagging them, is I recently just got finished with the "Films by director Foo" cats, and although they were all tagged, by me, there was still a question after it was said and done. See above entry. I think we should consider it and discuss it, but it's been pretty decent on the smaller speedy renames w/o the tag. <font color=#000000>]</font>]] 16:27, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

::Also, should we bother listing them in the standard section of Cfd or should they be listed under Cfd/Speedy? <font color=#000000>]</font>]] 16:37, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

:I think the idea is we'll use standard CFD for changes to the by country conventions, but cfd/speedy for cats that are misaligned with the established conventions (which I think makes sense). Sorry about not signing (no idea how that happened, my fingers pretty much automatically type "<nowiki>-- ~~~~</nowiki>" - weird). -- ] <small>(])</small> 16:58, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

] Thanks for the support. It's especially lame being in an edit war over categories. ] | ] 21:14, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
:Yea thought it was kind of weird too. I personally don't care which way they are, just don't need redundancy, and there was consensus this time, so I just followed it. <font color=#000000>]</font>]] 21:17, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

== Blocked-eth ==

has been -- ] · ] 03:53, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

:thou shall not reak havoc on user pages :) <font color=#000000>]</font>]] 04:06, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

== bot assisted cfr tagging ==

Hi - Do you suppose it would be a good idea to crank up the whobot and cfru-tag:
# subcats of ]
# subcats of the sports venue cats: <s>]</s>, <s>]</s>, <s>]</s>, <s>]</s>, ], <s>]</s>, <s>]</s>
# subcats of ]
The discussion on whether this is necessary doesn't seem to be highly active, so I think it might be best (at least for now) to assume this IS necessary. If you could do this (bot-assisted) I'd appreciate it. Thanks. -- ] <small>(])</small> 13:39, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
:I did some by hand. -- ] <small>(])</small> 14:24, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
::Sure, I will start on it in a little while, have to go across town first. <font color=#000000>]</font>]] 18:46, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
:::Done, although I used "in Foo" instead. I still have to add some code to my bot to allow it to put the right name in. <font color=#000000>]</font>]] 23:37, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

::::Very cool. Thanks. -- ] <small>(])</small> 23:39, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
:::::Not a prob, glad to help. <font color=#000000>]</font>]] 23:42, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

== See ya ==

Have a good time on your trip. ]]]]<sup><font color=FF8247>]</font></sup> 03:27, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

P.S. You were right. Red's page is monitored. :)
:Omg I like, feel soo violated, reading my posts ;-p </sarcasm> . thanks for the note. <font color=#000000>]</font>]] 03:31, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
*You won't be back until October 4th??! You mean I'll actually have to pitch in? Nuts. Oh well, have a good time, hope the weather is good wherever you end up. --] 17:46, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
**Or later it now seems. However I had a stop over at a friends till we pick up his plane in the morning. So I got some stuff done. Don't worry Kenny didn't die yet, Whobot did a big chunk of the 100+ article cats. Well still working on them right now. <font color=#000000>]</font>]] 05:34, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

== ] ==
Can you provide a source for this image? ] ] 21:01, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
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== thanks ==

Hi thanks for the heads up about user contributions. The edit was mostly a joke. I've been friends with ] since third grade. ] 07:36, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
*] <font color=#000000>]</font>]]

:''Hey, not a problem. I didn't think it was vandalism, but better safe than sorry, and we try to set a good example of not editing others userpages. I do it sometimes too :) But I figured it was just a redundant link anyhoo. Thanks for the note. ∞Who?¿? 07:39, 29 September 2005 (UTC)''

::interestingly, redundancy is frequently quite useful and can, with judicious use, create a better user experience. For instance, the toolbox is an ever present menu and hence isn't looked at every time a new page loads. Seeing the "extra" link reminds users that the possibility exists. Also, not sure if you saw my user page but feel free to edit as you see fit, and we haven't even been friends since third grade :-) ] 07:47, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

== Congratulations in advance ==
Congratulations (in advance) on receiving your adminship. By the time you return from your out of town trip you should be able to make great use of the additional features. :D ] 20:32, 29 September 2005 (UTC)


Who is the latest admin? I mean, '''Who''' is the latest admin! Congrats! (and you'd still be back in time to vote on ''my'' RfA. ;) ) ] ] 02:47, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
*Thank you! Point well taken. I regretted that unfortunate Edit summary as soon as I hit the 'Save' key. I'm sure there are other instances where I could have worded my comments better. ] ] 19:39, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
**Thank you for your support on my RfA. Your trust in me is well appreciated. ] ] 21:53, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

== RFA ==

Congrats! Your RFA bid is sucessful! However, as you know, the bug in the system is keeping us from setting sysop rights. Once resolved, we'll formally promote you. :) {{User:Nichalp/sg}} 06:17, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

== Congrats! ==

Hey buddy, welcome to the cabal. Now go remove those tables Essjay and I added to your user and talk pages! :P ]]] (]) 06:20, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
*Indeed, congratulations! --] 14:54, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

== BASIC programming language ==

I see you have contributed to the ] article on Misplaced Pages. Any chance you would like to join in editing the wikibook: http://en.wikibooks.org/Programming:Visual_Basic_Classic? --] 10:45, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

== Category:Marriage, unions and partnerships by country ==

Hi Who,

You've ] saying you "don't see the need to cat biographies in this way." This isn't a category about biographies. I think your vote is misplaced, and as I would really like to see this category stay, I was wondering if you could update your vote. Thanks! -- Reinyday, 20:20, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

== Congrats ==

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Congrats on getting the mop! So have one! -- ] · ] 22:16, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

== Very Polite ==

Hey Who, congratulations! I must say, your bot is most polite. :o ]]]]<sup><font color=FF8247>]</font></sup> 00:27, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
:Congrats from me too! No probs with support at all. You'll be a great admin ]...<font color=green><small>''] 00:42, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

== RFA ==

Congratulations on your RFA. ] 06:47, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
*I'll just pile my congratulations on someone else's - no need for a seperate header ;-) --] ] 20:49, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

== {{tl|Categoryredirect}} ==

Just as a side note, an unintended side effect of ] is that it explicitly trusts who ever uses this template really intends to move every article and subcategory to whatever it needs to be redirected to. Meaning that should you need to move all the articles in one category to another, just place the template and redirect it appropriately. --] ] 21:04, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

== You're a sysop! ==

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Hey there. I'm pleased to let you know that, consensus being reached, you are now an ]! You've volunteered to do housekeeping duties that normal users sadly cannot participate in. Sysops can't do a lot of stuff: They can't delete pages just like that (except patent nonsense like "aojt9085yu8;3ou"), and they can't protect pages in an edit war they are involved in. But they can delete random junk, ban anonymous vandals, delete pages listed on ] (provided there's a consensus) for more than one week, protect pages when asked to, and keep the few ]s that exist on Misplaced Pages up to date.

Almost anything you can do can be undone, but please take a look at ''']''' and the ''']''' before you get started (although you ''should'' have read that during your candidacy ;). Take a look before experimenting with your ]. Also, please add ] to your watchlist, as there are always discussions/requests for admins there. If you have any questions drop me a message at ]. Have fun! ] ] {{timestamp}}</div>

== Rfa ==

Congrats on Rfa success Who. ] ] 12:59, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

== Popups tool ==

{{User:Lupin/popups-admin-ad}} ]|]|] 14:58, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

== Link ordering cleanup ==

Not a problem. I think you've done some of Pearle's before, and they are really easy and satisfying to do. 8) -- ] 04:00, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

== Melchizedek ==

Been trying to get more balance and keep facts straight on this subject. Can you help instead merely reverting?] 04:57, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
*At the time I was mainly reverting the re-addition of a previously deleted category. The only other revert was on a clear 3RR violation by the anon, that I reverted back to the "last known good version". I would first suggest requesting the other users start a discussion on a talk page and cease the edit wars. If this does not work, try reporting them on ]. I am currently out of town and have very limited computer time, and am currently trying to reduce a backlog of CFD moves. I appologize I cannot help further at this time. <font color=#000000>]</font>]] 05:09, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

==Congratulations==
Congratulations on becoming an admin! ] 08:10, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

== Navigation ==

Hi Who,

Upon looking at your image (Whos_wiki.jpg) I was wondering if you can help me re-organise my navigation tab. (Where it has the link: "Main Page", "Community Portal" etc.) I have tried to go to "My Preferences" and change it there, but to no avail. Thanks, ] 20:41, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

== Toolserver ==

I invite you to join the ]. May we be able to collaborate a bot project or two. --] ] 23:44, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

==Thank you for all you do==
Just my brief note to say thank you for all you do on Misplaced Pages! --] 06:28, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

== cfd closings affecting conventions page ==

Hi - As part of closing cfd discussions are you planning to update ] where indicated? It's yet another task, but I hope after an initial ramp up period there will be fewer and fewer of these. I'm willing to update the conventions page if you'd rather not. And, is there a set of instructions for "how to close out a cfd discussion" somewhere? Perhaps "update conventions page as necessary" should be added to it if there is one. Let me know what you think. Thanks. -- ] <small>(])</small> 18:39, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
:At the current time, with Cfd being so backed up, I do not have the time to update the conventions. I don't have the link handy for you for the "cfd closings" page, but be assured, I have read it, and the deletion process, many times, and refer to it when in doubt. Also, although there has been mention of adding something to naming conventions, I prefer not to add directly to the policy w/o further discussion beyond the CFD page. I think each one should at least be mentioned on the talk page, if not already further covered. However, if you wish to add them, feel free, as I am short on time and still out of town. I am doing my best to get the CFD's closed that need done. Thanks. <font color=#000000>]</font>]] 18:46, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
::I closed a discussion or two to help out (without reading the "how to" page, which I still can't seem to find - and I'm certainly not implying I think you haven't read it!). The conventions page explicitly says the by-country conventions are modifiable by CFD discussion, so (although it's always good to be cautious) it's officially fine to change it based on CFD consensus. I understand CFD closings and category renaming takes a ton of time and do not mean to add to the burden, which is why I'm volunteering to update the conventions page as appropriate (there are a flurry in CFDs that will close in the next week or two). -- ] <small>(])</small> 19:23, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
:::No worries, I didn't think you were implying anything. Uhm, give me a minute and I will dig up the how-to's. When I get more time, I will try to update the conventions, which I need to read up on again anyway. <font color=#000000>]</font>]] 19:25, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

:::You've probably read them before, but I use these, ], ], ]; as well as the AFD guide and ]. Maybe a few other random pages I can't think of atm too.. <font color=#000000>]</font>]] 19:34, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

::::Yeah, those are the usual suspects (and I've read them). I was thinking there might be a "how to" directly targeted at CFD closing (add the {{tl|cfd top}} and {{tl|cfd bottom}}, what to add to the cleanup section, etc.). The searches I try find nothing (except my subpages about my cfd indexer!) or every archived daily log page (sigh). If you run across something (not urgent), please let me know. -- ] <small>(])</small>
:::::Yea, that stuff I think was pretty much "made up" on the way, or discussed somewhere on a talk page, but never really made into a page. I was about to start looking for better docs for "resolved" and "unresolved" sections. Seeings we should reference precendent setting discussions in resolved, but I think the stuff you are adding to the Naming conventions should replace that rule.. As far as the cleanup section, if I can't find much in the talk pages, or a howto itself, I will probably write one when I get back to town. <font color=#000000>]</font>]] 00:55, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

== User page cleanup ==

Thanks for moving the comment off my user page... I guess I need to add one of those "click here to leave a message" boxes. :) ] 21:07, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

==Thanks for your support==

Thank you very much for your support on my nomination for adminship. Now that I have been made an admin, I will do my best to live up to the truest you and the community have placed in me. If you ever see my doing something you think is incorrect or questionable, or does not live up to the standards that should be expected of an admin, please let me know. ] ] 15:58, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

== hi ==


<small>This message was sent to all administrators following a ]. Thank you for your attention. For the ], ] 02:29, 4 May 2019 (UTC)</small>
theres some mistakes in it i wanted to change {{unsigned2|07:15, 7 October 2005 |81.104.189.37}}
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== Administrator account security (Correction to Arbcom 2019 special circular) ==
By the way, can you please keep the edit history of ], ] and ]? They are related to an ArbCom case. &mdash; ]] 13:13, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
:Yea I will fix that, it was more of my error, I semi-manually made the list of categories to do. Thanks for pointing it out. <font color=#000000>]</font>]] 18:09, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
::Actually, that's why I didn't delete them, all the rest were deleted already. <font color=#000000>]</font>]] 18:23, 7 October 2005 (UTC)


ArbCom would like to apologise and correct our previous mass message in light of the response from the community.
:::Thanks so much. Would it be better to put up a notice or something stating why they were kept while the others are deleted? It's gonna be a bad thing if they're deleted by some other administrators. :-) &mdash; ]] 18:33, 7 October 2005 (UTC)


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::Actually, it was an error, because the "new" category page already existed. I manually created it some days ago, edited all the pages in the old category to put them in the new category, and manually put the categoryredirect on the old page. The bot shouldn't have done anything. -- ] 18:35, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
:::At the time, Whobot does not look for {{tl|categoryredirect}}. I should have checked the category manually before I ran it, I thought I had. I will have to fix it so he doesn't move redirected cats. But thanks for letting me know. <font color=#000000>]</font>]] 18:37, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
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Sure. I created the pointer because I didn't know talk pages would be moved. Sorry for the inconvenience. :-) &mdash; ]] 19:17, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
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I noticed Whobot working on the backlog same time as I am. Is it going to helpfully eat it all up? If it is, I can go and do something more interesting! -]<small><sup>]</sup></small> 22:20, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
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:Yea sorry, I thought about removing the ones it's doing. But dont worry, there are way to many for it to do. Right now I have
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on the list. I'll remove the ones from the list when I start on them. Sorry bout that. <font color=#000000>]</font>]] 22:37, 7 October 2005 (UTC)


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I would prefer it if the 'bots did the whole lot! Anyway. Perhaps I should get myself a Splashbot although I don't know how, despite being computer-language literate.


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On a different topic, I've decided I'm going to take a slightly firm line on some parts of CfD. There is a new speedy-renaming rule, #4 in that section of the page. CalJW refuses to utilise it although the changes he proposes are almost always in line with the conventions written down as speedies. Policies are not opt-outable, even when you don't like them. He's flooding CfD with renames that could be done very quickly without a full debate &mdash; avoiding this is precisely why we have speedies. So I'm going to start closing those debates as speedy-renames in the same way that AfD debates are closed early in speedy cases. Not immediately right now, because I'm digging through AfD/Old, but soon. Just a warning that there's going to be quite a bit more 'bot wor soon. -]<small><sup>]</sup></small>
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:Actually, I agree with you. I have been meaning to do something about it myself. I just got back home last night, and it was hard to keep up with the debates while I was gone. I will support any of them you want to close and move to speedy, I will probably be doing the same. When I get back to my house, hopefully Sunday (at sisters to pick up dog) I plan on going through all of the discussions thoroughly. <font color=#000000>]</font>]] 22:45, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
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::Oh yea, as far as bots doing them all, I have no problem with that. Whobot still doesn't have a flag yet though, meta had the same issue with admin/bot flags, and they ''just'' put the request for permissions section back up. So I dont like flooding RC. He's been working pretty much full time for the last few days though, just a LOT of categories :) <font color=#000000>]</font>]] 22:47, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
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:::I see. True about flooding RC. But then I think most people probably filter that against logged in users anyway (I do, at least) so I suppose you're not upsetting ''too'' many people. -]<small><sup>]</sup></small> 22:55, 7 October 2005 (UTC)


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The "whobot" is busy switching people from the "House of Plantagenet" category to a "House of Anjou" category, referencing the categories for deletion page. Yet I cannot find any discussion of this rather peculiar choice there. Where can one find any mention of moving "House of Plantagenet" to "House of Anjou"? Did it occur to no one that "House of Plantagenet" is a subset of the First "House of Anjou" and that Plantagenet kings are usually referred to as Plantagenets, or, if referencing their connection to France, an "Angevin Dynasty"? We shouldn't be needlessly confusing, and we should use the more specific category. - Nunh-huh 23:48, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
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You wrote: <blockquote>Hi. Reguardless of you not seeing the final cleanup list, there was ample discussion and notification of this categories renaming. The community decided it should be renamed, and it was then deleted. I speedied the recreation of the category under CSD gen #9. I also reverted the articles that you placed back in the category. This is nothing personal, rollback is just quicker than me going through and giving precise details. Misplaced Pages:Categories for deletion/Log/2005 September 27#British royal houses, again, this is the link to the discussion for your preview. I appologize for any confusion this may have caused, but CFD is backed up, and those particular cleanup links have been posted for a few days. I moved them to User:Whobot/tasks, and provided a link to this page, so that other users working on cleanup would not bump into the bots work. Shortly after you asked for the link, it was provided, so I do not understand your recreation of the category. Thank you. ∞Who?¿? 03:39, 8 October 2005 (UTC)</blockquote>.


:What are you saying "thank you" for? That's a fairly condescending signoff. I didn't "recreate" a category, I created a subcategory. I hope you don't imagine that just because the same name has been used for a previous category it can't be reused. If that is your belief, it is an easy matter to choose a new name for the category. I hope you realize that reflexive changes made because they are convenient for you are not helping matters. And I hope you don't imagine that the question of categorization of the Plantagenets has been decided one-and-for-all by a discussion on an out-of-the-way page in the deepest-and-darkest recesses of Misplaced Pages. - ] 04:32, 8 October 2005 (UTC)


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:I'll try to work out a more ''rational'' system of classifying the '''''three''''' Houses of Anjou than that arrived at on CfD. I'm glad that you have no objection to instituting such a system. Had I been "just reverting the edits done by Whobot because did not see the listing in cleanup" I would have said so, and they would have been reverts, not edits. But Whobot should ''not'' be saying "see the discussion <nowiki>]</nowiki>" when the discussion is not <nowiki>"there"</nowiki>. It's like writing "see talk" in an edit summary when something's not mentioned in talk. You need to work out a system in which this will not occur. I don't have a problem with you. But I do think you need to fix the whobot. - ] 04:50, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
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:You seem to want to "justify" yourself. Don't worry about it! I'm not asking you to do that. What I would like for you to work out is a way of having discussions where whobot says they are. I'm glad to hear you'll be working on it. When someone sees whobot making what they consider an inappropriate change, they will want to see on what ''basis'' that change is being made, rather than by whose authority it is being made. - ] 05:02, 8 October 2005 (UTC)


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That seems to get me to the right page (though not to the section heading) which is close enough for government work. But I'll leave the testing to you, as you actually have a clue about it<g>. I don't know if clicking on the link in recnet changes would be different. - ] 07:31, 8 October 2005 (UTC)


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I see Whobot is moving everyone in ] to ]. I am presuming that this is in preparation for moving everything in ] to ]. However, if this is the intent, it's messing up a lot of categories unless it sweeps it through a second time almost immediately (and ruffling feathers of those who don't know what's going on).
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Assuming this was not an error, it probably would have been better just to move things directly from Mad scientists to Fictional Scientists, then Ficitonal heroic scientists to Fictional scientists on the second sweep. --] (] • ]) 06:16, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
:Ugh, no that was me and a typo when I created the list. Thanks for catching the error, some of the discussions blend together and its easy to copy the wrong destination. NOw I have to merge them where they belong. <font color=#000000>]</font>]] 06:20, 8 October 2005 (UTC)


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Hi you closed this CFR as no consensus. I think there was a conensus that it should be pluralised to actors, just no consensus over "neighbours actors" or "actors appearing in neighbours". Do you think it would be ok to relist as a category speedy rename to "Actors appearing on Neigbours", which is just changing the pluralisation? --] 10:12, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
:Yea, there was a slight consensus, but the others proposed other names, so I didn't feel right making it a rename. However, it definately qualifies as a speedy candidate, and users will have 2 days to object if they wish. <font color=#000000>]</font>]] 10:18, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
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I think you've made a bad call here. There was one vote for "delete" which I think may have been a mistake for "rename" and a quibble about whether to use the word country or not which should have been no obstacle to renaming, and you closed it as "no consensus". I believe it is actually eligible for speedy renaming, but as you know I am reluctant to use that. Please can you amend it to ]? If you don't I will put it up for another vote, but I think that should be unnecessary. ] 17:41, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
:No, not a bad call. 3 votes, 1 nom. 2 votes to rename to ], 1 delete, and 1 to rename to "Georgia organisations". So that's only 50%, which is NOT a consensus. As far as a ''quibble'' as you put it, it was a valid objection, which you don't have to like, but it voids the consensus. You are more than welcome to put it back up for renaming. <font color=#000000>]</font>]] 18:07, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

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