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== Semi-protected edit request on 30 September 2023 == |
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This entry was written without consulting any of the relevant research on the issue. A lot should be added to make the entry balanced and add more details to this. I'll do a little now... ] |
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I request for the Category:Crimes against humanity to be added to the External Links. ] (]) 12:36, 30 September 2023 (UTC) |
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:Already in 'see also', which is the correct place for such links. ] (]) 12:40, 30 September 2023 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 1 December 2023 == |
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Ok, I have tried to add some more of the basic materials on this, but there is a lot of detail yet left out. Wakabayashi's article has great detail although he is highly critical of the "feminist paradigm shift" Yoshimi has the most famous book out. Tanaka includes information on Allied forces and prostitution. |
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== On sexually transmitted disease == |
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Change "World war 2" to "World War II". |
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I deleted the following part. Because a reason of the system is prevention of sexually transmitted disease. If women have it, Japs get it too!<BR> |
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Change "World War 2" to "World War II". ] (]) 00:26, 1 December 2023 (UTC) |
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Please read .<BR> |
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:{{done}}<!-- Template:ESp --> Thank you, - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">] <small>(])</small></span> 00:40, 1 December 2023 (UTC) |
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And most of them are returned to home. However, they are discriminated in Korea by old moral. |
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== Misquotation of source == |
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:Conditions in these brothels were very harsh, and many were never kept clean. Those women who contracted ]s from the soldiers were often left to die or shot. |
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Only doing this because I do not have an account valid to edit semi-protected pages. The 95th source is misreferenced, in quotes it says "public restrooms", yet the cited source says "public toilets". ] (]) 07:28, 20 April 2024 (UTC) |
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== Number of the women == |
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:done ] (]) 07:40, 20 April 2024 (UTC) |
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Some researchers say 20k is still too many. Anyway, 300k is sillion (Why Japs were there? Sex? No! To fight!!).<BR> |
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About this subject, there are too many political words. So, we must choose facts among them.<BR> |
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I think we must beware people who brand enemy "revisionist(s)". If it's OK, we can even call them "masked communist(s)". If it was true, such manner is not fair, as we know enough. |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 20 June 2024 == |
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==US and South Korean use== |
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Recently added: "US had same system in occupied Japan after World War II, and it was stopped by ]. |
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"Only in the 1990s did the Japanese government begin to officially apologize and offer compensation. However, apologies from Japanese officials have been criticized as insincere." |
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Even South Korea had same system in ] and ]." |
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This quote is highly dishonest and written from a Pro-Korean and Anti-Japanese view point. |
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* Molasky, Michael S. ''American Occupation of Japan and Okinawa'', Routledge, 1999. ISBN 0415191947 ISBN 0415260442 |
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Japan has paid reparations for comfort woman multiple times under various treaties. However, if that is not direct enough due the treaties never stating comfort woman, then look at the fact that Japan offered to pay comfort woman's directly but were rejected by the Korean government. |
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* Moon, Katharine H. S. '''', Columbia University Press, 1997. ISBN 0231106424" |
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The Korean government asked Japan to give the payments to the Korean government directly and they'll redistribute the funds. Japan agreed to this. However, Korea took the money to fund their businesses and roads and then continued to claim Japan never paid. ] (]) 23:59, 20 June 2024 (UTC) |
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The online reference seems to discuss organised prostitution, which is not quite the same thing as CW. Am I missing something? ] 09:51, 6 Mar 2004 (UTC) |
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:] '''Not done:''' please provide ] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> ] (]) 00:32, 21 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{partly done|Partly done:}}<!-- Template:ESp --> Unsourced statement removed. ] <small> (]) </small> 00:35, 21 June 2024 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 23 July 2024 == |
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:We can know about RAA or Japanese Comfort Women Center for Occupation Force . |
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:Most of them are wrote in anti-Japanese context. Please read facts among political words. |
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:Also says about it too. But "When USA occupation forces to Japan came to Tokyo, what they said first was 'Prepare comfort women club for military officers' Do you know this ?? They loved this club much for long years." is incorrect. It was prepared from Japanese side, stopped in 1946 not "long years", and is not only for officers but also soldiers. |
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: is report on Korean kidnapped Comfort Women in Korean War. But it is Japanese text page of Korean News Paper, ''JoongAng Ilbo''. Unfortunately, this page is not accepted machine translation. |
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I request in the See Also section where it says "]" to be changed to "]". ] (]) 13:23, 23 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:Comfort Women system of other nations including South Korea is . |
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:This is machine translation of a Japanese page. I'm searching English page. Language barrier is serious problem among us.] 12:52, 6 Mar 2004 (UTC) |
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== Apply quotation marks to euphemisms == |
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:"Language barrier is serious problem among us." I agree. :) Maybe would be a better place to put the material, in Japanese? Is there an online reference for a US or Korean government program of rape? Isolated acts of individuals, or paid prostitution, are not the same thing. (I've reverted your edits until we sort something out). ] 02:18, 7 Mar 2004 (UTC) |
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"Comfort women" is a euphemism for sexual slavery, according to sources here and at ]. As such, the euphemism needs to be written in quotation marks, at minimum. |
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:RAA was prepared by Japanese side in just same manner of Japanese Comfort Women system. Why don't you understand it? Korean systems are much worst, according to _Korean_ scholars. you can read Japanese pages in English thru machine translations.] 10:30, 7 Mar 2004 (UTC) |
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To repeatedly use the euphemism without quotation marks normalizes the euphemism, and in this case normalizes a redefinition of sexual slavery that was promoted originally by Japan in defence of the Japanese Army, who imprisoned and enslaved the Koreans "in brothels" (according to sources). |
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:: Kadzuwo, please feel free to post links to Japanese sources here -- some of us ''can'' read them without translation. ] 02:35, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC) |
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After the lede, the words 'sexual slaves' should be used instead of "comfort women". Another possibility in the lede is to use 'so-called "comfort women" '. ] (]) 16:57, 14 November 2024 (UTC) |
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:: And by the way, the single link on the Japanese page isn't very neutral, with titles like "The Lie of Forced Comfort Women" (慰安婦強制連行のウソ) and criticisms of sources with terms like "silly little book" (インチキ本)... ] 02:59, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC) |
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Only doing this because I do not have an account valid to edit semi-protected pages. The 95th source is misreferenced, in quotes it says "public restrooms", yet the cited source says "public toilets". KillYourLandlord (talk) 07:28, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
"Only in the 1990s did the Japanese government begin to officially apologize and offer compensation. However, apologies from Japanese officials have been criticized as insincere."
This quote is highly dishonest and written from a Pro-Korean and Anti-Japanese view point.
Japan has paid reparations for comfort woman multiple times under various treaties. However, if that is not direct enough due the treaties never stating comfort woman, then look at the fact that Japan offered to pay comfort woman's directly but were rejected by the Korean government.
The Korean government asked Japan to give the payments to the Korean government directly and they'll redistribute the funds. Japan agreed to this. However, Korea took the money to fund their businesses and roads and then continued to claim Japan never paid. TheHistorian8 (talk) 23:59, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
"Comfort women" is a euphemism for sexual slavery, according to sources here and at Statue of Peace. As such, the euphemism needs to be written in quotation marks, at minimum.
To repeatedly use the euphemism without quotation marks normalizes the euphemism, and in this case normalizes a redefinition of sexual slavery that was promoted originally by Japan in defence of the Japanese Army, who imprisoned and enslaved the Koreans "in brothels" (according to sources).
After the lede, the words 'sexual slaves' should be used instead of "comfort women". Another possibility in the lede is to use 'so-called "comfort women" '. Metokpema (talk) 16:57, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
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Done Thank you, - FlightTime (open channel) 00:40, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Aoidh (talk) 00:32, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
Partly done: Unsourced statement removed. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 00:35, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
