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== This page is a clear example of what's wrong with Misplaced Pages == |
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Turner routinely uses phrases such as "Savage negro beasts," "Hook nosed kikes," "Filthy degenerate Mexicans," and far, far worse descriptions that I will not repeat here. And yet Misplaced Pages editors refuse to allow him to be labeled ]. |
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::Perhaps some people view the crime statistics and see a patriot, not a racist? |
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This is just one more example of the intellectual vapidity of over zealous editors who won't allow the blatantly obvious to be stated, even though it comes from a primary source, namely his own website, which he personally authors. |
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::Please stop the personal attacks. There are rules here that every editor must follow. One is neutral point of view, "rabidly" is not neutral. Another is in biography's of living people, negative unsourced info must be properly sourced, or it will be removed. His webpage would not be a proper source, unless on it he explicitly admits to being such. Third, secondary sources are preferred to prevent users from conducting original research, i.e. reading a primary source and synthesizing it based on their opinion. Instead of attacking people, why don't you take the time to read ], ], ], and ].] 22:51, 26 October 2006 (UTC) |
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::Anon, if you have a source for those, then why not just quote him and let readers decide for themselves? To decide, on your own, that the subject is racist for using those term is orignal research. -] 22:52, 26 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:::If he's a racist, just quote him calling himself a "white nationalist", etc. and say he frequently uses racist terminology. ] 23:23, 26 October 2006 (UTC) |
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-- Along these lines: I am familiar with all of the names for racist people but under the "rally Against Violence" I saw a new one: "...Turner aggressively pursued his "Rally Against Violence" by appealing to "pro-whites" with unsubstantiated allegations of black students terrorizing white students..." What the hell is a "pro-white"? I am a white guy and I do things in my own best interest; does that make me a pro-white with the same connotation as a neo-nazi? Do we really need more euphemism's for people who hate others? Pro-white? Really? |
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==Truncation== |
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I truncuated the opening line, removing "and for focusing on jews as hypocrites anti-Semitism", as it is entirely incoherent -- edited some other parts for the same reason. |
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If you're the person who has been editing this article today then what you actually did was edit to make the article more sympathetic to Turner. I'm sure you've listened to Turner's broadcast. Have you not heard the tape he regularly plays where he talks about the "goddamned Jews" (that's one of the more polite phrases he used) and starts chanting "six million more! six million more!". How you can remove the description of Turner as an anti-Semite and claim you just did it for the sake of coherence belies belief. ] 21:51, 5 December 2005 (UTC) |
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:You're not only advocating blatant POV, but also suggesting that preserving poor English is somehow superior because it has the potential to add further POV. That's just ridiculous. If anything, more time should be spent on the questions about Hal's funding (and seeming inability to keep the show above water), which are legitimate. Also the section on Hal's departure from the airwaves tonight is in need of expansion. The fact that he has certain views you dislike is just that - a fact. --] 01:46, 29 June 2006 (UTC) |
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==Podcast== |
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Hal Turner's show is not a podcast; it is broadcast live on several radio stations and over the internet. Archived copies are available later to paid members, but as far as I know there is no form of syndication like you would expect from a podcast. --22:28, 23 July 2006 (UTC) |
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==Anti-Israel== |
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I got a SPAM email with a link to this page: |
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http://www.halturnershow.com/IsraeliAtrocities.html |
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It's on his website, and some images have his name on them. Is he really claiming that the Israelites did these things? Did they? Are these photos legit? Did he even put up this page? Why the spam on it? Is Lebanon or allies using Spam like this to sway people's opinion in the west? If someone could look into it more, that would be great. ] 04:20, 31 July 2006 (UTC) |
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==Tag== |
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I added the noncompliant tag on this article's talk page as it appears to be in violation of ] with unsourced negative characterizations of Turner. In addition, it is using sources which are specifically mentioned as unreliable under ], such as stormfront.org. ] 00:09, 24 October 2006 (UTC) |
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==Roman Catholic== |
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This seems kind of awkward, standing in a paragraph all by itself. Not sure what to do with it however. ] 14:03, 27 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:I combined it with the prior family sentence. -] 17:50, 27 October 2006 (UTC) |
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::Thanks, that's an improvement. ] 03:22, 28 October 2006 (UTC) |
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==Does Hal Turner Meet the Requirements of Notability== |
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OK, I just wanted to know the consensus of the persons who edit here. I did a google search on this guy and could not find one mainstream media hit on this guy. All the google hits seems to be to blogs, to wikipedia, sites like Stormfront, and to his webpage. To be honest, I wouldn't know this guy existed, if it wasn't for his Hal from Bergen calls to Hannity. I seriously believe this article is ripe for AfD, as there is no notability outside of Hannity and the incidents mentioned in the article probably lack the requisite notability. What do other's think? ] 18:07, 27 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:It seems to me that his involvement with the murder of the judge is notable. I remember this being in the news, although I couldn't have told you Turner's name. ] 03:22, 28 October 2006 (UTC) |
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::Heh, not only is he responsible for ], but now ] has taken to attacking him. Expect some action on this page regarding this conflict desu~ --], please. 03:31, 22 December 2006 (UTC) |
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