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Merge of WP:TERRORISM into this project

I have started a discussion on WP:TERRORISM about making that project a task force of this one, since it is inactive and has so much overlap with our project. See here. Please contribute your thoughts. Thanks! PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:21, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

@PARAKANYAA: I note that this merger has been completed now, with all the WikiProject Terrorism related articles now having a WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography banner and rating. By my estimates, over half the articles already had a Crime and Criminal Biography banner on them, and of the remainder I looked at, all but one probably should have had the banner added, too. I only saw one article where the crime banner should not have been put on the article, and that was because it was not terrorism in the first place, and should have been classified as a military action instead. Far less painful a migration than previous merges. Well done. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 17:03, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

Unassessed articles

Now that the WP Terrorism articles were tagged with this project (or are, it's not done yet), the unassessed importance articles backlog has gone from 0 to what is looking to be several thousand. I will handle what I can. Well, at least we'll get all of the notifications for articles on article alerts now, I always thought it was really annoying that we didn't. PARAKANYAA (talk) 02:03, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Done with AWB. PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:47, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

@PARAKANYAA: Thanks for all the hard work. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 17:04, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

Consensus to split into subpages?

I'm partially neutral on this but while changing all the page names for WP:TERROR I realized they use the subpage method of organization, while we have everything on one page. I think it is clearer organizationally if we do it that way, but didn't want to do it without consensus. For example, we could split resources/participants/recognized content/open tasks off to their own pages. thanks :D PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:31, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

I think having all the WikiProject content on one page makes it easier to see what is going on with a WikiProject. Having multiple pages poses the risk of content forking, where information on one page conflicts with similar information on another. While it is a good idea to have separate pages for each task force of a WikiProject, having a centralized page for the overall WikiProject reduces the number of different pages one needs to keep an eye on to just one. I see sub-pages as mostly being for sections of the main project page that you want people to contribute to, without actually editing the main project page itself. The content might appear on the main project page in an abbreviated form but editing takes place on the sub-page, like documentation sub-pages for templates, where one does not want the template page to be updated. However, I don't see the need for that approach here, at the moment. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 17:23, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

Fair enough, honestly PARAKANYAA (talk) 18:26, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

Renaming Charles Rodman Campbell Article

I started a discussion on the talk page for the article Charles Rodman Campbell, regarding a potential name change; I decided to post here to get more opinions.

I'm currently working on addressing a severe lack of sources and prevalence of factual errors, rearranging the article, and adding additional information, and I figured it might be helpful to first hear opinions on a potential renaming of the article after the crime victims rather than the perpetrator, before I get too far with making more rearrangements. Renaming the article would require a drastic rearrangement of almost all the information currently present.

Long story short, I proposed changing the name of the article to Clearview triple murders, or something similar; due to there having been three victims (Renae Wicklund, Shannah Wicklund, and Barbara Hendrickson), I'd be hesitant to name it after any of the victims or place any of their surnames in the title, but I can also see if that title naming it after the city might seem vague, or if it could be argued that Campbell was a sufficiently historically noteworthy figure to make the article's current title appropriate. (I also want to be clear that I don't really want to have a discussion here; I'd rather the discussion be on the article's talk page linked above, where I have gone into more and better detail about my thoughts.) Afddiary (talk) 12:05, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Robert Roberson case#Requested move 26 October 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Robert Roberson case#Requested move 26 October 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Raladic (talk) 17:54, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Lizzy Seeberg

I'm not sure the Death of Lizzy Seeberg article meets WP:NPOV; I re-worded some of the article but I would like other editors to take a look Joeykai (talk) 06:49, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Iskandar of Johor

Iskandar of Johor has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 16:02, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for R v R

R v R has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 16:19, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Featured article review

I have nominated Toa Payoh ritual murders for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Nikkimaria (talk) 18:16, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

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