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| ⚫ | == Firooz Kooh in Greater Tehran?! == | ||
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| ⚫ | This is the second time that I have to tell @] that Firuzkuh is not part of the metropolitan area. All maps show that this small city is over 100 km away from the Greater Tehran’s urban agglomeration. | ||
| Being afraid of any evidence connecting Iranian locales, history or art to pre-Islamic time, particularly the rival religion of ], any addition to correctly explain the pre-Islamic, Zoroastrian roots of the name Tehran, is immediately deleted. So, I suppose, placing it here may prevent the "pious believer" from immediately deleting it. So, you be the judge of the pre-Islamic, Zoroastrian roots of Tehran's name | |||
| Another theory is that "Tehran" derives from Zoroastrian name, ''Tiran'', "the abode of ]", the ] equivalent of ])/]. The ancient ] town of Tiran had other neighbours with Zoroastrian names, such as Mehrabad and ] ("abode of Mehr/Mithra", the Zoroastrian sun/justice archangel). likewise was the villages of Firuz Bahram ]/]/], being another primary Zoroastrian archangel). The nearby site of (Bibi) Shahrbanu ("The Lady of the Land"]] is of course the common title for ]). These were other similarly Zoroastrian-named locations in the area. Both of these were mere villages in the suburbs of the great city of Ray/Rhages. Mehran and Mehrabad, as well as Bibi Shahrbanu still exists as a residential district in Greater Tehran, as well as Ray, which forms the southern suburbs of Tehran. The historic Firuz Bahram was enamed recently to ] <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 00:47, 19 October 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :I guess I am an Islamist now, that's a new one (on a more serious note, please see ]). With all due respect, you've been told countless times to not add information without any ] to support it, which you didn't, instead resorting to edit warring. --] (]) 14:03, 19 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
| ⚫ | If you want to revert my edit, Please provide a RS for verifying this claim.] (]) 21:03, 30 May 2024 (UTC) | ||
| ::That is your problem, that is, not being to distinguish between a self-evident statement of the obvious, and that of a hypothesis in need of evidencing. But of course Wiki has not qualification exams for "editors", but only the good old "First come, first served" modus operandi. That is why the entries in the Wiki remain untrustworthy and worthless compared to traditional encyclopedias where editors ard judged by their academic qualification, not on how fast can they run and get there first to claim an entry for themselves. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 03:04, 26 October 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :::Actually, that is your problem (see ] and ]. Also, ] does not mention your addition ). Please see ] and ], this is not the place for rants. And please be less hostile (]). ] (]) 03:08, 26 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
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== Stop adding images == | ||
| We need to make sure this article can load up with an normal internet connection, even right now there are '''too many''' images... idk why but deleting them is not easy too.. ] (]) 00:19, 3 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :Not that this is a country page.... But a good example would be to follow the parent article ] that follows ] , ] and ]. <span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue">]</span>🍁 00:34, 3 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Ice hockey league (Women's) == | |||
| ::@] Thanks for your concern. I'm leaving WP for a while, can you please watch this article? A user is kinda destroying this article by adding misleading information. I can not undo his changes anymore and I'm sure nobody gives a "damn" about this article too.. ] (]) 22:08, 3 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Geography & Administrative set-up == | |||
| There is a ice hockey league for women in Tehran. It is kind of national league of the country because other cities actually don't care about hockey at all. ] (]) 23:43, 1 January 2024 (UTC) | |||
| In which Districts and then Rural Districts or Cities are Tehran's 1st and 20th municipal districts in Shemirant and Ray counties? I think this needs a bit more detail than simply stating that they are in those counties, which are quite physically expansive. --] (]) 10:07, 22 August 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| {{ping|Iran1234567}} could you please fill in a source for the updated climate data?] (]) 03:44, 20 August 2024 (UTC) | |||
| Also in the economy section you mentioned Iran Mall as the biggest one in the world, which can be misleading because many of it's stores are not active due to the sanctions. ] (]) 23:45, 1 January 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Lead image == | |||
| :where is this exactly ] (]) 20:09, 17 January 2024 (UTC) | |||
| The current lead image shows ], which is not a good representation of a megacity of over 10 million people. I have swapped out that picture with a section of Tehran's skyline, along with the newer image collage standard, but one user keeps reverting the edits without any reasonable justification given. ] (]) 06:49, 21 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ⚫ | == Firooz Kooh in Greater Tehran?! == | ||
| :@] This is not Tehran. This is not how people see Tehran. You are presenting a small and exceptional part of the city as the main view of the city. If, for example, this is done in articles about Western cities, it is because these parts are influencing and serving the entire city. In Tehran, this is not the case. Your edit could be a kind of propaganda for the Iranian government to present a better image of Iran and Tehran. ] (]) 01:03, 22 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ⚫ | This is the second time that I have to tell @] that Firuzkuh is not part of the metropolitan area. All maps show that this small city is over 100 km away from the Greater Tehran’s urban agglomeration. | ||
| ::I came here from the ANI, and I agree with {{u|LivinAWestLife}} here that a skyline is a much better representation. I completely disagree with your interpretation of this as propaganda. I'll break down your comment: | |||
| ::* "This is not Tehran." Objectively this is Tehran in the same way that the skylines of every major city we have an article about are those cities. Because it isn't reasonable to create some sort of 3D render of an entire city to put in the infobox (even if we could, this wouldn't be good for an infobox image), we have to make some sort of compromise to how much we can show, and skylines capture a lot of visual information. If anything, the ] is a much, ''much'' smaller part of Tehran than an entire skyline. | |||
| ::* "This is not how people see Tehran." Source? And moreover, source that a single monument, the Azadi Tower, ''is'' "how people see Tehran"? Who are "people" here? I'm people with at least a modest understanding of Iranian culture and history, and I don't see Tehran as a single tower. | |||
| ⚫ | If you want to revert my edit, Please provide a RS for verifying this claim.] (]) 21:03, 30 May 2024 (UTC) | ||
| ::* "If, for example, this is done in articles about Western cities, it is because these parts are influencing and serving the entire city." I have no idea why "Western" was specified here. What does "influencing the entire city" mean? What does "serving the entire city" mean? What are these criteria? Why are they good, useful criteria? Why do you single out articles on "Western cities" as meeting them? Does ] not "serve and influence the entire city" of ]? Does ] propagandize the image of ]? Is our image of the ] for ] in service of the Petro administration? | |||
| ::* "In Tehran, this is not the case." Why does this skyline of Tehran fail these thus-far completely nebulous criteria? | |||
| ::* "Your edit could be a kind of propaganda for the Iranian government to present a better image of Iran and Tehran." Literally any image we present of any major city could be construed as political in some way, because ultimately it is – everything technically is. However, how is showing a city's skyline first over a single monument (which, mind, is still in the infobox) "presenting a better image of Iran and Tehran" in service of "Iranian government propaganda"? Is there an angle of the skyline you think better represents it? Because this one seems extremely good. If anything, shunning a much more representative skyline over a single ]-era monument feels a lot more like propagandizing (even though I want to emphasize that I don't think this is actually a serious concern) than what LivinAWestLife did. | |||
| ::Honestly, I find this objection completely nonsensical and so vague as to be essentially unfalsifiable. <b>]</b> ] 11:46, 22 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::Thanks for summarizing my points with such clarity. I've had back-and-forth replies with Edward on my talk page and he hasn't been able to articulate why he would prefer the Azadi Tower over a picture of the skyline. ] (]) 15:01, 22 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::@] Thank you for your comment. I can see things more clearly... I think the overall positivity of the article made me sensitive to the images. The problem with the article is not the images. Overall, it's the article itself that is overly positive. In this case.. I think the issue is resolved! ] (]) 00:20, 23 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::As I am again stating, I am not a propagandist, which for some weird reason you seem to mistakenly think I am. I heavily dislike the Islamic regime and its influence on the Middle East. I also dislike North Korea, but the lead image on Pyongyang is a picture of the city's skyline, instead of a single image of Ryugyong Hotel or some statue. Wouldn't keeping Azadi Tower also be considered propaganda? Why do you think the skyline image would have any bearing on how people would view the Iranian government (or that the Azadi Tower wouldn't serve as opposition propaganda for the resistance against the government)? It is simply a wider view of the city. If you can find a more appropriate image on Misplaced Pages Commons I would not mind considering that for the lead image. ] (]) 15:05, 22 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::@] The suggested image is actually good. In fact, the article itself should be edited later, and images are not a problem. Thank you for working on this article. I hope my behavior did not discourage you from continuing the good edits. ] (]) 00:27, 23 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Alright, thanks for replying and for having considered my points. I apologize if I was more aggressive at times in previous interactions. If you dislike the content of the article's text, you are welcome to change it provided it adheres to Misplaced Pages's standards. Thanks. ] (]) 00:46, 23 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
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Firooz Kooh in Greater Tehran?!
This is the second time that I have to tell @Farnaj57 that Firuzkuh is not part of the metropolitan area. All maps show that this small city is over 100 km away from the Greater Tehran’s urban agglomeration.
If you want to revert my edit, Please provide a RS for verifying this claim.PAper GOL (talk) 21:03, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Stop adding images
We need to make sure this article can load up with an normal internet connection, even right now there are too many images... idk why but deleting them is not easy too.. FreeZoneF (talk) 00:19, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Not that this is a country page.... But a good example would be to follow the parent article Iran that follows WP:COUNTRYGALLERIE , MOS:UPRIGHT and MOS:SANDWICH. Moxy🍁 00:34, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Moxy Thanks for your concern. I'm leaving WP for a while, can you please watch this article? A user is kinda destroying this article by adding misleading information. I can not undo his changes anymore and I'm sure nobody gives a "damn" about this article too.. FreeZoneF (talk) 22:08, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Geography & Administrative set-up
In which Districts and then Rural Districts or Cities are Tehran's 1st and 20th municipal districts in Shemirant and Ray counties? I think this needs a bit more detail than simply stating that they are in those counties, which are quite physically expansive. --Criticalthinker (talk) 10:07, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
Ref error
@Iran1234567: could you please fill in a source for the updated climate data? -- Fyrael (talk) 03:44, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
Lead image
The current lead image shows Azadi Tower, which is not a good representation of a megacity of over 10 million people. I have swapped out that picture with a section of Tehran's skyline, along with the newer image collage standard, but one user keeps reverting the edits without any reasonable justification given. LivinAWestLife (talk) 06:49, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- @LivinAWestLife This is not Tehran. This is not how people see Tehran. You are presenting a small and exceptional part of the city as the main view of the city. If, for example, this is done in articles about Western cities, it is because these parts are influencing and serving the entire city. In Tehran, this is not the case. Your edit could be a kind of propaganda for the Iranian government to present a better image of Iran and Tehran. Edard Socceryg (talk) 01:03, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- I came here from the ANI, and I agree with LivinAWestLife here that a skyline is a much better representation. I completely disagree with your interpretation of this as propaganda. I'll break down your comment:
- "This is not Tehran." Objectively this is Tehran in the same way that the skylines of every major city we have an article about are those cities. Because it isn't reasonable to create some sort of 3D render of an entire city to put in the infobox (even if we could, this wouldn't be good for an infobox image), we have to make some sort of compromise to how much we can show, and skylines capture a lot of visual information. If anything, the Azadi Tower is a much, much smaller part of Tehran than an entire skyline.
- "This is not how people see Tehran." Source? And moreover, source that a single monument, the Azadi Tower, is "how people see Tehran"? Who are "people" here? I'm people with at least a modest understanding of Iranian culture and history, and I don't see Tehran as a single tower.
- "If, for example, this is done in articles about Western cities, it is because these parts are influencing and serving the entire city." I have no idea why "Western" was specified here. What does "influencing the entire city" mean? What does "serving the entire city" mean? What are these criteria? Why are they good, useful criteria? Why do you single out articles on "Western cities" as meeting them? Does Sükhbaatar Square not "serve and influence the entire city" of Ulaanbaatar? Does Meskel Square propagandize the image of Addis Ababa? Is our image of the CIB for Bogotá in service of the Petro administration?
- "In Tehran, this is not the case." Why does this skyline of Tehran fail these thus-far completely nebulous criteria?
- "Your edit could be a kind of propaganda for the Iranian government to present a better image of Iran and Tehran." Literally any image we present of any major city could be construed as political in some way, because ultimately it is – everything technically is. However, how is showing a city's skyline first over a single monument (which, mind, is still in the infobox) "presenting a better image of Iran and Tehran" in service of "Iranian government propaganda"? Is there an angle of the skyline you think better represents it? Because this one seems extremely good. If anything, shunning a much more representative skyline over a single White Revolution-era monument feels a lot more like propagandizing (even though I want to emphasize that I don't think this is actually a serious concern) than what LivinAWestLife did.
- Honestly, I find this objection completely nonsensical and so vague as to be essentially unfalsifiable. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 11:46, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for summarizing my points with such clarity. I've had back-and-forth replies with Edward on my talk page and he hasn't been able to articulate why he would prefer the Azadi Tower over a picture of the skyline. LivinAWestLife (talk) 15:01, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- @TheTechnician27 Thank you for your comment. I can see things more clearly... I think the overall positivity of the article made me sensitive to the images. The problem with the article is not the images. Overall, it's the article itself that is overly positive. In this case.. I think the issue is resolved! Edard Socceryg (talk) 00:20, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- As I am again stating, I am not a propagandist, which for some weird reason you seem to mistakenly think I am. I heavily dislike the Islamic regime and its influence on the Middle East. I also dislike North Korea, but the lead image on Pyongyang is a picture of the city's skyline, instead of a single image of Ryugyong Hotel or some statue. Wouldn't keeping Azadi Tower also be considered propaganda? Why do you think the skyline image would have any bearing on how people would view the Iranian government (or that the Azadi Tower wouldn't serve as opposition propaganda for the resistance against the government)? It is simply a wider view of the city. If you can find a more appropriate image on Misplaced Pages Commons I would not mind considering that for the lead image. LivinAWestLife (talk) 15:05, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- @LivinAWestLife The suggested image is actually good. In fact, the article itself should be edited later, and images are not a problem. Thank you for working on this article. I hope my behavior did not discourage you from continuing the good edits. Edard Socceryg (talk) 00:27, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- Alright, thanks for replying and for having considered my points. I apologize if I was more aggressive at times in previous interactions. If you dislike the content of the article's text, you are welcome to change it provided it adheres to Misplaced Pages's standards. Thanks. LivinAWestLife (talk) 00:46, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- @LivinAWestLife The suggested image is actually good. In fact, the article itself should be edited later, and images are not a problem. Thank you for working on this article. I hope my behavior did not discourage you from continuing the good edits. Edard Socceryg (talk) 00:27, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- I came here from the ANI, and I agree with LivinAWestLife here that a skyline is a much better representation. I completely disagree with your interpretation of this as propaganda. I'll break down your comment:
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