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Can someone include the original screenshots of when this was first shown off at spaceworld? Link looked even more stylized then he does in the final game. |
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:Will look into this if I remember to. I guess publicly-released screenshots have no copyright, right? (], 12:10, 13 Apr 2005, GMT) |
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::Misplaced Pages policy is that screenshots inherently fall under fair use. ] 23:42, 8 December 2005 (UTC) |
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I wouldnt say the art style was anything close to anime-style, in fact that's why i -didn't- like it so much. I mean if that's chibi, then so is every 'toon' in america. |
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First of all, the wording of the first paragraph is a bit wrong: "(...) the introduction of new items such as the Grappling Hook and Deku Leaf were added." |
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I suppose technically there weren't any introductions before, but I doubt that's what the sentence is meant to say. |
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Secondly, I'm pretty sure Ocarina of Time already featured a Grappling Hook, although it might have a different function now...? ] |
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:Yes, there have been grappling devices before--ALttP introduced the Hookshot that has since featured in later games--but the Grappling Hook in this case is a proper "hook" with rope and all, and probably operates differently (I've never played TWW). But certainly a mention could be made that it's the intellectual descendant of the Hookshot. |
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:Remember, the idea with Misplaced Pages is that if you see something wrong you can change it. Just feel free to correct anything and everything to the way you want it, and if others don't like an edit they'll change it some more. Just ] and go wild! :) ]<sup>]</sup> 6 July 2005 21:59 (UTC) |
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::The hookshot is in ''TWW'' as well. The grappling hook has a three pronged claw and can be used for either hooking round branches or similar features and swinging from them, or thrown at enemies to steal spoils, hearts and other things. It can also be used on the boat to pull up treasure chests from the sea floor. The hookshot is pretty much the same as in ''OoT'' and ''MM'' from what I recall. ] 7 July 2005 07:24 (UTC) |
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:::By now I have almost finished TWW and discovered the Hookshot as well. I didn't realise it was included, and something different from the Grappling Hook (although like Ian Moody mentioned, it does work differently). The only other Zelda I played is OOT, quite a while ago, and I think you started out with a Hookshot, later upgraded to a Longshot, both different from the GH. I am ignorant no more. :) (I'm going to edit the strange sentence now.) |
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About the WW second quest.. Are there any other differences from the first other than the clothes of link and his sis, the DX camera, location of treasures, and the ability to understand Hylian? Do any of those things make the game worth playing again? I'm just a Zelda fanboy who needs to know!! Thanks ] 08:33, 18 October 2005 (UTC) hey everybody! i added the names of islands on a map supplied by www.z64planet.com (p.s u guys rock!) damn! wouldnt work! 0 well cyaz! |
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:I think the clothes and Hylian alone was reason enough to replay, especially when the game's so much fun in the first place, but each to their own. ] 00:20, 9 December 2005 (UTC) |
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== Wikibooks == |
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== Intro edits == |
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I've twice reverted parts of the recent edits to the introduction. The reason is that the previous version read better than the changes. Specifically: |
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{{wikibooks|The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker}}] is in need of serious work. I have fixed some of the lists, but the main text of the walkthrough contains many inappropriate comments, language and needless spoilers. Lots of help is needed! ~ ] ] 01:17, 2005 July 20 (UTC) |
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*The following sentence is phrased awkwardly: "The element of ] has a prominent role, by facilitating sailing and being controlled with a magic conductor's baton called the Wind Waker." |
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*The following sentence introduces passive voice: "Instead, a distinctive cartoon-like art style was created through ], originating the ']' character." (I also don't think the sentence benefits from being broken up). |
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*Calling the art direction "whimsical": I don't think this is the right word choice. At any rate the previous paragraph already establishes what the art direction is like. |
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*The article verifies that the divisiveness among North American players contributed to weaker sales in comparison to Ocarina of Time, in fact this is a pretty significant part of the game's history. Removing that hurts the flow. |
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*"As a result, the subsequent '']'' (2006) has a more natural and serious look." This doesn't flow right. As a result of what exactly? As a result ''of comparatively weak sales'', Nintendo changed directions with the visuals. As a result of that decision, Twilight Princess has a more realistic style (I don't think that "natural and serious" are the right word choices) |
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*Splitting the sentence on the character's allies and activities strikes me as unnecessary, but I'm open to this if others support the change. |
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There are some good changes that I'll restore, and others that should be made. In general this introduction has suffered from content creep over the years; I'll get to work on fixing that.--] ]/] 20:29, 8 August 2020 (UTC) |
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== Would this still classify as GameCube-Only? == |
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This article lacks images; the one that currently sits in the article is not very flavoured as it displays the backside of ]. If a screenshot demonstrating the use of cell-shading should be present in the article, I believe that it should, in the least, feature Link facing the camera. If not, perhaps an up-close-and-personal view point from the protagonist's eyes could be desirable. Also, an image of The Great Sea in general would add flavour to the article (one similar to that of '']''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s ]). A map of The Great Sea (one similar to that of ''Majora Mask''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s ]) would also be rewarding. Personally, I believe that an image of the King of Red Lions should be included as well, considering that he supplies a major role in ''Wind Waker''. Any thoughts, suggestions? ] 02:23, 23 January 2006 (UTC) |
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I'm aware that the two versions (OG and HD) have separate articles, but at the end of the day they're the same game at its core. Pages where the remasters are merged with the original game (] and ]) don't have either marked as exclusive for their respective consoles (Xenoblade's remaster in particular has WAY more identity than Wind Waker's in my eyes). I could totally be wrong with this thinking, and if I am, I'd appreciate a link to Misplaced Pages's policies on remakes (if such a page even exists). Thanks for reading! | ] (]) <!--Template:Undated--><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added 22:01, 7 January 2021 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:I have included the same fair use rationale on the screenshot ] that our ] placed on the images in the ''Majora's Mask'' article. Any objections, comments, suggestions? ] 02:35, 23 January 2006 (UTC) |
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== "]" listed at ] == |
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The redirect <span class="plainlinks"></span> has been listed at ] to determine whether its use and function meets the ]. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at '''{{slink|Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 14#Zelda 10}}''' until a consensus is reached. <!-- Template:RFDNote --> ] (]) 14:59, 14 August 2024 (UTC) |
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"The whimsical look was also compared to the similar style of A Link to the Past and promotional artwork from previous Zelda games." Does anybody have a source for this claim? It seems like both POV and factual inaccuracy to me. Wind Waker looks nothing like A Link to the Past, and I don't remember promotional art from any previous Zelda game looking anything like Wind Waker. ] 03:13, 24 January 2006 (UTC) |
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:Wow, the one sentence I don't put a footnote on. (kidding) I didn't say they looked the same, I said they were compared. I did take the word ''similar'' out, that was misleading. What is currently note 7 (Mirabella III, Fran, May 22, 2002.) compares ''WW'' to the world of ''Link to the Past'' and Miyamoto remarks in about matching box art styles. If you remember the drawings of Link and other characters from the time of the original ''Legend of Zelda'', they were drawn like cartoons, as opposed to the more realistic Link of ''Ocarina of Time'' character sketches. Persons would write letters to the editors of game sites complaining about how ''WW'' looks like a kiddy cartoon, and they would be reminded that Link started as a cartoon. I'm sure you can find some articles or letters sections mentioning this if you do a litle research. I don't understand why you feel the sentence is POV, though. I'm not saying that being compared to those things is good or bad, just that it happened. --] 06:45, 24 January 2006 (UTC) |
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The redirect <span class="plainlinks"></span> has been listed at ] to determine whether its use and function meets the ]. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at '''{{slink|Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 November 23#Fado (character)}}''' until a consensus is reached. <!-- Template:RFDNote --> ] (]) 03:01, 23 November 2024 (UTC) |
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== Takt == |
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A.f.a.I k., takt isn't an English word, even if it's on the Japanese box, it's useless as an English translation. |
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:True, it's not an English word. The inclusion in the article is a representation of the title as given on the Japanese box, not an English translation. Writing "Baton of Wind" would be speculation, as multiple translations based on ''Kaze no Takuto'' were given prior to the official English subtitle. --] 04:41, 30 January 2006 (UTC) |
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::That's because ''takuto'' was an uncertain word, difficult to translate with other possible meanings like ''wand''. But the "translation" proves that they meant it to translate as ''takt'', which has a very specific meaning: a conductor's baton. -- ] (]) 13:55, 30 January 2006 (UTC) |
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== Orca == |
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is there any use of becoming a "master swordsman" by fighting Orca? ] 02:50, 2 February 2006 (UTC) |
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:You become t3h pwn4ge. ] ] <font color="#00AA88">(])</font> 05:11, 3 February 2006 (UTC) |
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== Comment == |
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When I saw this game advertised on a cover of Nintendo Power Magazine, I really thought it was a joke. I feel they committed suicide with Windwaker, particularly because of the extreme amount of almost-chibi-but-not-anime-dumb-looking characters, the lack of the actual "Link" character (some weird short guy took his spot) and the just plain... non-zeldaness. No hookshot?? why would they drop a hookshot from the story? It's original, unlike a grappeling hook. No Ocarina?? Fooling around with the flute is much more fun than waving a toothpick at the sky. The way they changed graphic style probably lost many customers (like me) before it hit shelves. Twilight Princess... I think they are making this game to apoligise for the WindWaker and MinishCap incident. And although Twilight Princess looks extemely good, some think that the insanley high-tuned graphics are the only thing that is making it look so good. Someone post an opinion relating to this topic please! <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) {{{2|}}}.</small><!-- --> |
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I've twice reverted parts of the recent edits to the introduction. The reason is that the previous version read better than the changes. Specifically:
There are some good changes that I'll restore, and others that should be made. In general this introduction has suffered from content creep over the years; I'll get to work on fixing that.--Cúchullain /c 20:29, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
I'm aware that the two versions (OG and HD) have separate articles, but at the end of the day they're the same game at its core. Pages where the remasters are merged with the original game (Xenoblade Chronicles (video game) and Skies of Arcadia) don't have either marked as exclusive for their respective consoles (Xenoblade's remaster in particular has WAY more identity than Wind Waker's in my eyes). I could totally be wrong with this thinking, and if I am, I'd appreciate a link to Misplaced Pages's policies on remakes (if such a page even exists). Thanks for reading! | NJ (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 22:01, 7 January 2021 (UTC)