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			== Distance from Melbourne to Sydney ==
	== Info Box suggestion - adding urban (built-up) area and density ==

			Hi guys,
	The GCCSA area and density information, being based on census/statistical parameters can be seen to provide a limited understanding of the city's true form.
			the distance between Sydney and Melbourne is different on the Melbourne and Sydney Misplaced Pages pages.
	Urban (built-up) data for the city area (and subsequently) density provide a more nuanced and accurate reflection of the true urban scale of the city.
	This information is readily available in ABS/Census data, reflecting the 'urban centre' or 'Significant Urban Area', which a category used on Misplaced Pages already to rank Australian cities.

			They should be the same.
	This information is summarised here: http://www.demographia.com/db-worldua.pdf based on ABS data.
	For Sydney specifically, this information shows an urban area of 2,194 sqkm and a population density of 2,204 per sqkm.
	Data is available for all major Australian cities, so could be included for all.

			I've also flagged this in the Melbourne Misplaced Pages Talk Page.
	National data consultancy.id, which analyses census data for local and state governments have more on this here: https://blog.id.com.au/2023/population/population-trends/has-melbourne-overtaken-sydney-to-become-australias-largest-city

	It would be useful to include this information in the info box if possible, otherwise in the body of the article. ] (]) 02:45, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

		⚫	Thanks ] (]) 23:16, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
	== Metro platforms no longer under construction! ==

			== Infobox images ==
	When it talks about central station, can somebody with more power than myself amend the header and Metro section! THE METRO PLATFORMS ARE OPEN AT CENTRAL COME ON PEOPLE CHOP CHOP ] (]) 11:30, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

			I made an edit that swaps out the skyline image from 2023 with one from 2021, which I preferred as it showed much more of the skyline, including Sydney's new tallest building of One Barangaroo. Upon looking at the images further I think the current pic captures a pretty good portion of the skyline (and has a bit of One Barangaroo in it regardless) so I'm no longer inclined to change it.
⚫	~~:{{done}}.~~ ] (]) 21:29, 30 ~~August~~ 2024 (UTC)

			However, I do think we should swap the placements of the Sydney Harbour picture and the skyline, going with the convention that the first picture on a city's article is that city's skyline. Let me know if this is fine. ] (]) 01:35, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

			:Actually I prefer the top picture to be the one with the Opera House and Harbour Bridge because these are the two most iconic images of Sydney. And the skyline picture could be of any major city anywhere in the world. We don't have to follow convention. Sydney is not like any other city: it has the opera house and harbour bridge! ] (]) 02:09, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
			::I mean, NYC has the Statue of Liberty but it still uses the skyline as the first photo; same for Milan and the Milan Cathedral, or London with St Paul's Cathedral and Big Ben. I guess there is no hard and fast rule about this, but I do see that cities with modern skylines tend to have it first. Maybe we could have one with both the Opera House and the skyline in the same frame? ] (]) 02:21, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
			:::Let's see what others think. ] (]) 03:32, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

			::::Agree we should lead with the Opera House / Harbour Bridge image, per ] - this is consistent with the practices in other reference works (eg ) and is what readers are likely to expect. ] (]) 22:49, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

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Distance from Melbourne to Sydney

Hi guys, the distance between Sydney and Melbourne is different on the Melbourne and Sydney Misplaced Pages pages.

They should be the same.

I've also flagged this in the Melbourne Misplaced Pages Talk Page.

Thanks Fido frog (talk) 23:16, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

Infobox images

I made an edit that swaps out the skyline image from 2023 with one from 2021, which I preferred as it showed much more of the skyline, including Sydney's new tallest building of One Barangaroo. Upon looking at the images further I think the current pic captures a pretty good portion of the skyline (and has a bit of One Barangaroo in it regardless) so I'm no longer inclined to change it.

However, I do think we should swap the placements of the Sydney Harbour picture and the skyline, going with the convention that the first picture on a city's article is that city's skyline. Let me know if this is fine. LivinAWestLife (talk) 01:35, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Actually I prefer the top picture to be the one with the Opera House and Harbour Bridge because these are the two most iconic images of Sydney. And the skyline picture could be of any major city anywhere in the world. We don't have to follow convention. Sydney is not like any other city: it has the opera house and harbour bridge! Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 02:09, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

I mean, NYC has the Statue of Liberty but it still uses the skyline as the first photo; same for Milan and the Milan Cathedral, or London with St Paul's Cathedral and Big Ben. I guess there is no hard and fast rule about this, but I do see that cities with modern skylines tend to have it first. Maybe we could have one with both the Opera House and the skyline in the same frame? LivinAWestLife (talk) 02:21, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Let's see what others think. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 03:32, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Agree we should lead with the Opera House / Harbour Bridge image, per MOS:LEADIMAGE - this is consistent with the practices in other reference works (eg Britannica) and is what readers are likely to expect. Nikkimaria (talk) 22:49, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

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