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==Birthday Cake== | |||
This article implies that she died of poisoning from a birthday cake Stalin sent her, but there is no source for this claim. I say the claim should be removed unless sourced.--] (]) 09:02, 28 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Agreed. I managed to find a copy of one of the books sourced (The corporation : Russia and the KGB in the age of President Putin) on archive.org. I went to the page and, yes it does say that she was poisoned by Stalin's cake, but this claim had no source in the book itself. I dug deeper and found that the publisher of the book was widley known for publishing works of conservative authors. So it is safe to say the "poisoned by Stalin" claim is likley false. Not to mention this book further discredits itself by claiming Stalin had poisoned Lenin; however, the historical consensus is that he died of a stroke and it is widely accepted. Especially if you read Krupskaya's memoir. You'd think that if her husband was poisoned by a man she so despised, she would have published it in a book. ] (]) 23:46, 7 August 2022 (UTC) | |||
=='Devout Marxist'== | |||
Lenin (Ulyanov) is described as "a devout Marxist." I understand the intent, but in most usages, ''devout'' means "devoted to religion or to religious duties or exercises ... expressing devotion or piety" (Merriam-Webster online). How about "convinced" or even "fanatical"? ] (]) 15:21, 23 February 2009 (UTC) | |||
:devout is simply being used as a descriptor of how dedicated she had been to the ideals of marxism ] (]) 04:23, 9 March 2024 (UTC) | |||
she was lenins wife <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 15:51, 10 April 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
== Style/section-divisions == | |||
Stylistically, for a smaller biography, I think article should be sub-divided purely chronologically, as not only does the section on Soviet Education... barely warrant its status, it disrupts the chronological flow of the article - (I came here wanting to find out about her direct response to her husband's death to find nearly nothing, as this era has been consumed somewhat topically by the education spiel.) <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 15:33, 23 August 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
==Death== | |||
Odd that there's no information about her death other than that it occurred in 1939. ] (]) 22:05, 18 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
:Apparently she was poisoned by Stalin. There is a description in the book by famous ] - see . This also appears in a book by Felshinskiy and Pribylovsky (the latter author suddenly died in his apartment in Moscow, and no one knows why exactly). ] (]) 04:35, 4 February 2021 (UTC) | |||
==Censorship== | |||
I find it odd that there is no information about her role in censorship of important works such as of Dostoevsky, fairy tales, the Bible and Quran. | |||
] (]) 20:38, 21 June 2021 (UTC) | |||
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Birthday Cake
This article implies that she died of poisoning from a birthday cake Stalin sent her, but there is no source for this claim. I say the claim should be removed unless sourced.--FDR (talk) 09:02, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
- Agreed. I managed to find a copy of one of the books sourced (The corporation : Russia and the KGB in the age of President Putin) on archive.org. I went to the page and, yes it does say that she was poisoned by Stalin's cake, but this claim had no source in the book itself. I dug deeper and found that the publisher of the book was widley known for publishing works of conservative authors. So it is safe to say the "poisoned by Stalin" claim is likley false. Not to mention this book further discredits itself by claiming Stalin had poisoned Lenin; however, the historical consensus is that he died of a stroke and it is widely accepted. Especially if you read Krupskaya's memoir. You'd think that if her husband was poisoned by a man she so despised, she would have published it in a book. Lettucecrunchrat (talk) 23:46, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
'Devout Marxist'
Lenin (Ulyanov) is described as "a devout Marxist." I understand the intent, but in most usages, devout means "devoted to religion or to religious duties or exercises ... expressing devotion or piety" (Merriam-Webster online). How about "convinced" or even "fanatical"? Sca (talk) 15:21, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- devout is simply being used as a descriptor of how dedicated she had been to the ideals of marxism 161.38.148.115 (talk) 04:23, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
she was lenins wife —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.34.54.2 (talk) 15:51, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Style/section-divisions
Stylistically, for a smaller biography, I think article should be sub-divided purely chronologically, as not only does the section on Soviet Education... barely warrant its status, it disrupts the chronological flow of the article - (I came here wanting to find out about her direct response to her husband's death to find nearly nothing, as this era has been consumed somewhat topically by the education spiel.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Atkumnavij (talk • contribs) 15:33, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Death
Odd that there's no information about her death other than that it occurred in 1939. Sca (talk) 22:05, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
- Apparently she was poisoned by Stalin. There is a description in the book by famous Arkadiy Vaksberg - see here. This also appears in a book by Felshinskiy and Pribylovsky (the latter author suddenly died in his apartment in Moscow, and no one knows why exactly). My very best wishes (talk) 04:35, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Censorship
I find it odd that there is no information about her role in censorship of important works such as of Dostoevsky, fairy tales, the Bible and Quran. Theophilius (talk) 20:38, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
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