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Now that's a welcome page, had to steal it myself. Thanks ]! ] 02:00, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
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:Hi GWH, I have picked you randomly on my wanderings. I notice in your discourse with 208.65.188.149/"El Jigue" that you claim "I went back 500 edits, then walked forwards..."


== In memoriam ==
:This seems to confirm that there is no extant tool that would let me pick an arbitrary piece of text and say "who/when/why did this first appear?". Is the only way by human inspection of a series of diff's? There is an evident simplicity in creating such a tool and also evident vast complications. Are you aware of any such efforts?
=== Franamax memorial ===


{{User:Franamax/Honour}}
:Thanks ] 01:59, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
:I made this for anybody, modified by my76strat, who wishes to honor Franamax and their passing, to put in their userspace.—] ]<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:red;font-family:arnprior">Offline</sub> 05:39, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
Completing the thread, answer follows ] 11:34, 3 October 2007 (UTC)


=== Guest Book for the family ===
As far as I know of there is no such tool.


If anyone wants to leave a message for his family, you can sign the online guest book, here: . It will remain online until the end of the year. ] (]) 08:07, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
To do it right, I think you'd need to have an extension in the MediaWiki server to do it in the database. I've been fooling around with MediaWiki code, but am not up to programming something like that at the moment.


=== Condolences ===
For now... everyone does it by hand.
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You will be missed. My condolences to his family and friends. ] (]) 21:08, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
*Wish the family all the best in these hard times.] (]) 21:16, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
*There is a small solace to be found in the rememberance that Franamax has left a positive mark on this community and the world around him. ''Requiescat in pace''. &mdash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 21:26, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
*Rest in peace, Francis. You were a fine wikipedian, and a great person. Very sorry to hear this. <span style="text-shadow: 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em #DDDDDD">] ]</span> 21:33, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
*Very saddened to hear this news. My thoughts are with all whose lives Franamax touched. ] (]) 21:38, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
::*Those who wish to honour Franamax in a more tangible way may want to consider a donation to , a charitable organization he long supported. ] (]) 15:19, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
*My condolences as well to everyone affected by this loss. ] (]) 21:47, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
* So sorry to hear this. All thoughts and prayers for the family and friends. — <small><span style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 21:49, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
*Rest in peace. Our thoughts are with your family. ] (]) 21:57, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
* So sorry to hear this, Franamax was one of the best. Rest in peace. ]<sup>TT</sup>(]) 22:03, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
*] --] (]) 22:11, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
*Sad to hear. Franamax left Misplaced Pages in much better shape than he found it, in many ways. ] - ] ] <small><b>]</b></small> 22:19, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
*I share the burden of mourning this tremendous loss; affecting such a large constituency. An abundance of fond memories is the grace I shall sustain by. Rest in the deserved peace that culminates your diligent toils. ]&nbsp;(]) 22:28, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
*So sorry to hear this. Sit tibi terra levis. ] (]) 22:31, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
*I'm very sorry to hear this, and my thoughts are with Franamax's friends and family. ] ]] 22:39, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
*Farewell, Fran. I'll miss you. ] (]) 22:42, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
*Terrible news. You will be missed. ] (]) 22:45, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
*Here is to an excellent Wikipedian, you will be missed. --]<sup>(]) </sup> 23:01, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
* I'm very sad to read this. Best wishes! --] (]) 23:03, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
* I add my condolences as well. - <b>]</b> 23:13, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
* Very sad to see this. ] <small><sup>]</sup></small>
*Gone but not forgotten. Franamax will be remembered as a fine Wikipedian and my thoughts are with his family.--<span style="">] <span style="font-size:70%; vertical-align:sub;">]&#124;]</span></span> 23:15, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
*RIP. I am very sad to see such a well respected admin pass away.—] ]<sub style="margin-left:-4.4ex;color:olive;font-family:arnprior">Online</sub> 23:17, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
* What a profound loss. Fran was an effective editor and a great help to me at crucial junctures. No doubt a tremendous loss for the family. -- ] (]) 23:18, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
*Such sad news; what a loss to this community. Condolences to the friends and family. ]&nbsp;]⁄] 23:20, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
*My condolences. Franamax was one of the good guys. ''']''' <small>]</small> 23:26, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
*My condolences. ] ] 23:28, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
*I'm so sorry to hear this. I just went back and looked at all the emails we exchanged over the years. I'll miss him. ] (]) 23:30, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
*RIP. Regards, — ] ] 00:17, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
*Very sorry to hear this sad news, my condolences and prayers to his family and friends... ] <small>]</small> 00:18, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
*I'm really sorry to hear this :( You helped me out once with a serious situation and for that, I'm really appreciative. Will miss you, sir - ] <sup>]</sup> 00:31, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
*It is sad to lose a fellow contributor. His legacy is the contributions he made to Misplaced Pages. ''']''' ''']''' 00:32, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
*Bloody hell, what a shame! Terrible news....my condolences to family and RL friends as well. ] (] '''·''' ]) 00:57, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
* The Reference Desk will be the lesser for Franamax's passing. Vale. -- ] </sup></font>]] 01:40, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
* Condolences for all family, friends, and fellow contributors who have appreciated this fine person. Very sad to see this. Ave atque vale; you were one fine Wikipedian. ] ] 01:50, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
*My condolences to those who grieve for him. He wrought well here, and we will mourn him as well. ] (]) 02:10, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
* My condolences. Terrible news. ] (]) 02:30, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
* My condolences to the friends, family and fellow contributors of Franamax. I never crossed paths with him, but he seemed like a very good fellow. God bless! <font face="Arial" size="2em">]&nbsp;(])</font> 03:22, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
*My condolences as well. A fine Wikipedian. — ]] 03:24, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
*RIP Francis/Franamax. My sincere condolences to his family. Had the pleasure of dinner with him at a Turkish restaurant in Burnaby a number of years ago, and some sage advice.] (]) 03:51, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
* Sorry to hear this. Franamax was always sensible and we are diminished by his loss. ] (]) 04:25, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
* Very shocking loss, one of the best in regard with tools and technical stuff, may he rest in peace and condolences to his family and friends. ] <sup>]</sup> 05:26, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
* Misplaced Pages will be a lesser place without him. My sincere condolences to his family and friends; you'll be in my prayers and thoughts. ] 06:29, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
* This is very sad news - Franamax was well respected, and all my interactions with him were positive ] (]) 07:02, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
* Very sorry to hear this, and condolences to his family. They should know that Franamax was valued here, too, and that he will be missed. ] <small>]]</small> 08:56, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
*It's a shock to find this out; my interactions with Franamax were limited, but I always knew he was a great admin and editor. This is a loss. I wish his family the best. ] 09:08, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
* Rest in peace Franamax. -- ] (]) 12:36, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
*So sorry to hear of this! Franamax, you'll be missed. My sincere condolences to family and friends. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> ''']'''</span> ] 13:53, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
*This is a very sad day here, and I will miss his wit, sense of humor, and helpfulness. Peace to the entire Franamax family and friends. ---] ] 14:03, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
*This is very sad news. We will all miss him. ] (]) 15:40, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
*I'm so, so sorry. We did not talk often, but I considered Franamax a friend. He was a special guy - smart, funny and always kind. --] <sup>]</sup> 16:04, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
*Praying for your family and friends. --]''''']''''' 16:15, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
* So sorry to hear the news. --]] 16:58, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
* RIP, Franamax :( ] (]) 17:25, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
* RIP <font face="Comic Sans MS">]</font><b>]</b>] 17:29, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
* He 'ran a good race.' Thanks Fran. RIP. ] (]) 17:34, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
*Really quite honoured to have had the opportunity to work with you here on the project. Thank you. My thoughts are with your family and friends. <small><span class='nounderlines' style="text-decoration:none"><font face="tahoma">]&nbsp;]</font></span></small> 17:57, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
* RIP My thoughts are with the family. --] &#124; ] 19:31, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
*I remember Franamax as being intelligent and thoughtful, every time I dealt with him. You'll most certainly be missed. ] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 20:26, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
*Little Franny was really fun to edit with. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 21:05, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
*RIP Franamax. And best wishes to the family. ] (]) 21:51, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
*Although I don't recall we interacted with each other on Misplaced Pages, I am very sorry to hear of the loss of another experienced editor. My userpage now serves as a memory to you too. Thank you for everything you did for Misplaced Pages. Rest in peace all the best to your family and friends. -- ] (]−]) 21:55, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
*Rest in Peace Franamax and deepest condolences to the entire family. Your work here is tremendous and you will be missed. ] | ] 22:21, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
* My thoughts are with the family, and everyone affected by the loss. <font face="Comic sans MS">]</font> <small><sup>]]</sup></small> 23:32, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
* Sad news. His family and friends have my condolences. ] (]) 23:44, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
* I'm not sure I could say it any better than I did earlier: "Oh my". Prayers to Franamax's family at this time. (]''']''']) 23:46, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
* A sad loss to the family and friends of Franamax and to Misplaced Pages. Although he is gone from our perspective, I'm sure that . ] (])
* Rest in peace, good sir. ] (]) 00:14, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
* Rest in peace. Always tragic when someone dies and especially a fellow Wikipedian.--] (]) 00:32, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
*This is terrible news, so sorry to hear about this. ] (]) 00:47, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
*Thoughts to his family and friends at the loss of a loved one. Sad as well for or general community to lose such a fine contributer. Rest in peace.--] (]) 02:25, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
*Good night and good luck, friend. ]! <sup>]</sup> 02:31, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
* With deepest respect and sincere gratitude for all that he did for the community and the world. Franamax will be greatly missed. On behalf of the staff of the Wikimedia Foundation, with our deepest respect, ] (]) 02:46, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
* Would that we are all as well remembered. ] (]) 03:54, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
*Excellent to work with. He was on my short list of trusted admins, and as a result we had occasional e-mail exchanges. If he's "up there", somewhere, reading this, maybe he could comment... and we'll forgive the "original research". ←] <sup>'']''</sup> ]→ 04:25, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
*I'm so sorry to hear this sad news; my heart goes out to his loved ones. Franamax was an upstanding admin and a great asset to the project. He will be remembered fondly. ''']]]''' 05:01, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
* RIP Franamax, and my condolences to the family. - ] 06:27, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
*My condolences to family and friends. He will be missed ] (]) 07:17, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
* Rest in Peace Franamax, my condolences to your friends and family. '']]<span style="color:#CC5500">Chequers</span>'' 09:32, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
* Very sad to hear this terrible news. Franamax was an outstanding contributor to Misplaced Pages. My condolences to his friends and family. ] ] 09:57, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
* Condolences. I was very sorry to hear about this. He was one of the best.--] (]) 11:40, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
* Rest in peace. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]]</span></small> 14:56, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
* Rest in peace! --] (]) 17:10, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
* My condolences to family and my gratitude to Franamax for making this a better world. ] (]) 17:45, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
* I'm very sorry to hear this. My condolences to his loved ones. I enjoyed working with him - he made a difference around here. --] (]) 18:11, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
* My condolences to his family. And to the community. This is very sad news. ] (]) 22:58, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
* Terribly sad news. We hadn't corresponded in some time, but Francis was always willing to help out with anything or just talk things over. I wish it was possible to thank him again for all his help. My condolences to his family and friends. RIP. ] (]) 23:39, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
*Goodbye, sir. Thank you for having helped. ] (]) 02:04, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
*Rest in peace. - ] (]) 01:19, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
* Please pass along our sympathies to his loved ones. --]]] 03:20, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
* To his friends and family, you have my heartfelt condolences on your loss. --<span style="font-family:lucida sans, sans-serif;">] <span style="font-size:85%;">(] • ])</span></span> 04:33, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
*It was an honor to collaborate with him and he will be missed. ] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 04:41, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
*I'm shocked out of my mind to hear the news, and very saddened. I didn't know Franamax too well, but he was a terrific contributor to this site with a great deal of insight to offer, and he will be missed. My condolences go out to his family and friends during this difficult time. ] (]) 13:09, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
*Very sad news to read this day. :( We interacted often on the Canadian Wikipedian's noticeboard. Franamax's insight and personality will be missed. Condolences to his family. ]] 15:14, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
*I don't remember having crossed paths with Franamax but I would still like to add my condolences as well. ] <small>(] • ])</small> 21:37, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
*Great in life, glorious in death. ]. <span style="font-family:Euclid Fraktur; background:white;">→]]].&nbsp;<small>(])</small></span> 01:13, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
*My condolences to his family and friends.&#0032;<span style="color:#396;">⋘]&nbsp;]&thinsp;]⋙</span> 02:14, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
*My condolences as well. Rest in peace. <span style="font-family:Verdana;">] <sub>]</sub> <sup>]</sup></span> 03:36, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
*I wish to offer my condolences to his family and close friends. Sleep well, Franamax.<br />&nbsp;—&nbsp;] ] 02:14, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
*Franamax was there for me when I was having a hard time with the first article I really cared about, ]. You'll remain in my thoughts, Francis. - Dank (]) 20:01, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
*Although we've never interacted with each other, I'd like to offer my condoleces to his friends and family. WP has lost yet another of its great Wikipedians. ]\] 08:07, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
*Rescias in pace. —]&nbsp;<small>]</small> 00:23, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
*Blessed are the peacemakers. Franamax will be sorely missed. ''']''' '']'' 09:17, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
* Sad to hear about his passing. We never really interacted but I enjoyed watching his work. My sympathy to his family. ]] 01:37, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
*RIP Franamax, us Wikipedians will never forget. Let the eternal light shine. --] (]) 18:42, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
* Miss you mate. You were a good lad. ] (]) 07:23, 9 September 2013 (UTC)


=== Irish wake ===
] 07:00, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
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|style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;" |Let's give a thought or two to the passing of a fellow contributor, and for those so inclined, let's raise a glass to their memory : ) - <b>]</b> 01:32, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
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::Found this: ]. Choose your preference. (And please, if your personal imbibing preference isn't currently there, please add for others to share : ) - <b>]</b> 02:54, 1 December 2012 (UTC)


*Having one in his memory. In my brief experience with him, F was not the type to turn down a brew and a good conversation. Suaimhneas síoraí dá anam. <span style="text-shadow: 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em #DDDDDD">] ]</span> 02:13, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
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*Having a Scotch in his honor. I agree Jc37, while we mourn with his family, we should celebrate his many accomplishments as well. ] - ] ] <small><b>]</b></small> 02:32, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
::Inserted by Franamax:
*]Scotch here as well. My condolences to the family, and enormous lasting respect for his contributions, Misplaced Pages is better for them. --]] 06:54, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
:::Casliber, with ref to Durova's talk page - please tell me there's no such thing as wiki-eavesdropping! You can easily see that I'm new here - one of the huge attractions for me is that so far as I have found, EVERYTHING in Misplaced Pages is recorded, archived, and open to inspection. There are definitely places where things have been closed off, users deleted, diff's not available, "redacted" if you will. But all those instances I have seen are referenced by some other trace, so I know they have at least occurred. If there are truly black areas of WP, please don't tell me Santa.
*I did add a cup of coffee, or tea, to the list, and I am raising my cup of coffee right now, being certain that I will again; as many times as my days will allow. ]&nbsp;(]) 04:18, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
*Having a beer, raising a glass to Fran. My best to his family and friends and to those Wikipedians who knew him. ] (]) 19:30, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
*Just raised my last little bit of Yamazaki; I came along a couple years after he started, and we inhabited different parts of Misplaced Pages, but I noticed his technical work from afar and genuinely appreciate all the time and effort he put in. ] (]) 00:21, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
*I'll raise my herbal tea to him ("Bengal Spice tea"). ] (]) 06:31, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
*I shall break open a Guiness and think of him. Terribly, terribly sad news. My love and sympathy to all the family and friends. ] (]) 10:32, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
*Today was a solemn reminder of the relationships and friends one makes online and through cyberspace. Often a world hide away from those in the outside world, it never ceases to amaze me of the meaningful contributions and bonds of community working over a project can create. These alternate lives online we lead form some of the strongest friendships we count amongst our very closest. While not aways aware of the impact our loved ones had on the lives of others in distant countries, I hope Fran's family read this and know he was truly missed all around the world. I have also added a link on the ] talk, whom Fran was a regular contributor. ]] 22:11, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
*I had the honor of meeting Franamax once in real life. He was just as intelligent and level-headed in person as he was online. He was a positive force that contributed to the development of Misplaced Pages. Thank you, Franamax. —] (]) 07:23, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
*Rest in peace. ] (]) 18:38, 13 February 2013 (UTC)


== Ow noes ==
:::At my point of development I would rather call it gathering, learning, integrating - but I hope that I can be bold whenever and stick my nose in whenever.


Miss you dude. A loving light in a faceless place - ]<span style="color:orange;">really</span>] 05:38, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
:::As to the tool I describe, no promises, if you wish I will notify you when I have further descriptions of same conecpt on my talk page. I enjoy algorithms and lexical analysis. Any input you may have as to analysis tools, you can put on my talk under Tool question for now. Mayhap I have identified a need which I can fulfill :) No promises. ] 12:49, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
<p>So sad to hear you've gone. '']&nbsp;]'', <small>04:24, 4 January 2013 (UTC).</small><br /></p>
::Completing the thread, answer follows ] 11:40, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
== ] of ] ==
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::Haha - tricky all this - like mass blogging. I am wary to only ever write very uncontroversial/straightforward things here as it's ''completely'' public. My issue is when trying to work things up for Featured Article Candidacy and everything has to be referenced and someone entered something way back when..like trying to find a needle in a haystack really. Can you imagine trawling through versions of ]? Gah! Anyway, welcome aboard.cheers, ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ]) 12:55, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
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A test of my work on this tool. ] 05:44, 3 October 2007 (UTC)


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LOL still testing ] 06:11, 3 October 2007 (UTC)


Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{Tlc|proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the ], but other ]es exist. In particular, the ] process can result in deletion without discussion, and ] allows discussion to reach ] for deletion.<!-- Template:Proposed deletion notify --> ]<sup>]</sup> 19:16, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
:::Gosh! Well blow me down as ] said. Just got back from a short trip and will investigate this further. cheers, ]&nbsp;(]&nbsp;'''·''' ]) 10:29, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

==Most livable city==
I can't imagine that anyone who might've replied didn't because of all the blah blah. But if a discussion gets too messy, it seems to work best to start a new section and even repeat comments if they got lost in the fray without being addressed. People would get PO'd if you altered their comments, but it's also perfectly acceptable to re-organize comments to make the overall discussion legible, such as breaking it up into smaller sections. I find it more common to post a comment on a talk page and have it sit there for many months before getting a response, if it gets any at all. Some of us (especially me and Skookum1 on the Vancouver Project) tend to be long-winded and meander off into tangents, so others might see me as part of a problem that I don't see myself. There are ] that some of us frequently break, and it's okay to jump in and remind people to get back on topic or whatever. But it's not like we're in danger of running out of space for these discussions, and personally, I find them more productive oftentimes if they're dynamic and provocative than by-the-book and clinical. It also helps to assume your audience has ADHD. cheers, ] 16:23, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Testing a talk subpage ] ] 18:33, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

== Testing ==

This article is currently undergoing its fourth nomination as AfD ]. Some legitimate points have been raised during this discussion. Perhaps some changes to this article and sub-articles will deflect future criticism and obviate the need for future revisits to the AfD issue.

Some points raised:
- why is it notable to be gay?
- this list can never be completed.
- what is the point of this list, Misplaced Pages is not a support group.

Thus some suggestions:

1. Consider adding a section to either the article or this talk page (and preserve after archiving) along the lines of:
:Notability - given the historical, and in some parts of the world, on-going discrimination faced by persons of variant sexuality, it is useful to provide a comprehensive list of their presence and accomplishments throughout history and in the present.

2. Consider renaming the article to "List of notable gay, lesbian or bisexual people"
: - The list as currently named can never be complete. My friend Deb isn't on it, for one, and she never can be - if I added her the change would be immediately reverted as she is not notable. Thus by definition, it is a list of "notable" people. Also it is a list of people referenced by Misplaced Pages, thus notable people.
:- Changing the article title would seem to be at variance with similar list titles such as ] or ]. However there is nothing wrong in being the first to do something properly.

3. Consider also including in the name and listing Transgendered people. I believe this has been debated before. The argument here is that these people will have for some portion of their lives faced the same challenges as GLB individuals and are thus worthy of inclusion in this listing. This is not necessarily to include the notability of the discrimination faced by these persons "post-trans" but instead to reflect the similarity of their "pre-trans" lives.

4. Change the lead-in wording of this and associated articles to better express the nature of the list. The current wording of the introductory sentence of this main article (as of writing) is "This is a referenced overview list of notable gay, lesbian or bisexual people." This seems near optimal - perhaps "and" not "or". If this is acceptable, change also the sub-articles to conform.
5. Consider removing those entries where the note is "sexuality disputed." These don't seem to be compatible with the intention of the list and could be construed as innuendo. Removing these would render the list more authoritative and less subject to challenge. Especially consider ].
6. Consider revamping the format of the article to bring it in line with other Lists as cited above. These organize their content by categories such as musician, scientist, philosopher, writer... rather than presenting a simple alphabetical listing. Of course this would be a huge job but would make this article easily defensible if combined with the suggested changes above.
This article contains an impressive amount of research and detailed referencing. Making some of these changes would possibly prevent the continuous challenges and make refutation easy should they arise in future, as well as making the article even more encyclopedic.

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Welcome!

Hello, Franamax, welcome Misplaced Pages! Hope little Franamax like. Here helpful pages:

Hope little user enjoy and edit smart like Bishzilla! Please sign talk pages using, er ... many tildes (~~~~) ('zilla can only count to three, regret!), clever automagic feature. If helpless, check out questions wikipedia, ask on 'zilla talk, or put {{helpme}} on own talk, get help soon. Again, welcome! 

Now that's a welcome page, had to steal it myself. Thanks Bishzilla! Franamax 02:00, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

In memoriam

Franamax memorial

Francis K. J. Dechert known as Franamax on Misplaced Pages
Entered into rest November 25, 2012
"In remembering Franamax, I smile. He will be missed." Jimbo Wales

In mourning his death we remember his life, celebrating his legacy and our good fortune to have shared the honour of his association. RIP (condolences)

I made this for anybody, modified by my76strat, who wishes to honor Franamax and their passing, to put in their userspace.—cyberpower Offline 05:39, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Guest Book for the family

If anyone wants to leave a message for his family, you can sign the online guest book, here: . It will remain online until the end of the year. StuRat (talk) 08:07, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Condolences

Rest in peace. We promise, we'll never forget your contribution!

You will be missed. My condolences to his family and friends. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 21:08, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Irish wake

An Irish wake.
Let's give a thought or two to the passing of a fellow contributor, and for those so inclined, let's raise a glass to their memory : ) - jc37 01:32, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
Found this: Misplaced Pages:Personal user awards/Cheers. Choose your preference. (And please, if your personal imbibing preference isn't currently there, please add for others to share : ) - jc37 02:54, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Ow noes

Miss you dude. A loving light in a faceless place - Youreallycan 05:38, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

So sad to hear you've gone. Rich Farmbrough, 04:24, 4 January 2013 (UTC).

Proposed deletion of Solar-powered fountain

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The article Solar-powered fountain has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

You can use solar panels to power most any arbitrary small appliance: that they can power a small decorative fountain is not a separately notable subject. Sources are just promotional for such products

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