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==Wiki Education assignment: Technical and Professional Writing== |
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== Requested move 13 February 2024 == |
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{{dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment | course = Misplaced Pages:Wiki_Ed/Texas_AM_University/Technical_and_Professional_Writing_(Fall_2024) | assignments = ] | start_date = 2024-08-21 | end_date = 2024-12-05 }} |
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<span class="wikied-assignment" style="font-size:85%;">— Assignment last updated by ] (]) 01:43, 20 September 2024 (UTC)</span> |
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] → {{no redirect|The Wizard of Oz}} – The film, ], and the novel, '']'', are sufficient distinct from each other to fall under ]. The original novel was not published as ''The Wizard of Oz'' (according to the article, it has sometimes been reprinted with the film's title due to the film's popularity, meaning the publishers wanted to associate themselves with the film as a companion piece, which only proves that the film is more widely associated with that term) and is thus ]ly disambiguated; this is similar to '']'' (the book) vs. '']'' (the film), or '']'' (the film) vs. '']'' (the book). |
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:I am assigned with bettering an article of my choice on Misplaced Pages. Over the next few weeks I will be working on finding more reputable citations to add to the references section, cleaning up the article in terms of grammar, spelling, and punctuation as well as adding or deleting information that may be unnecessary to this articles content. If there is any valuable input you would like to add to my work, feel free. ] (]) 14:11, 24 September 2024 (UTC) |
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== Remaster to upload to Wikimedia Commons in 2035 (year it enters public domain) == |
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Perhaps a more excellent example would be '']'', which is not titled ] despite often being reprinted and known as such. The book and the year are both equally and highly notable, but because of the differences in their names, they are disambiguated NATURALly. Due to ''The Wizard of Oz''{{'s}} cultural impact and significance, being one of the most influential films of all time, comparable to that of ''Nineteen Eighty-Four'', it can easily be regarded as the primary topic for the exact term "The Wizard of Oz", and this is reinforced by . A for "The Wizard of Oz" surfaces results almost exclusively for the film. ] (]) 19:23, 13 February 2024 (UTC) |
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*'''Oppose''', current ] setup works best. ] (]) 20:06, 13 February 2024 (UTC) |
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I know it's very early, but with 10 years to go until the film becomes public domain, just wondering which remaster of the film we will upload to Wikimedia Commons when the time comes. I'm thinking it should be the more recent remaster from 2018 used for the 4K Blu-ray release as it is the highest-quality and most detailed print of the film to date and restores the original colors. ] (]) 15:47, 15 November 2024 (UTC) |
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*:Your argument, NOPRIMARY, would mean '']'' needs to be moved to ]. It makes no sense to claim that the book is distinct from the film, but not vice versa. ] (]) <!--Template:Undated--><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added 20:49, 13 February 2024 (UTC)</small> |
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:::The proposed move concerns ]. If you want to discuss moving ], it needs to be stated explicitly in the nomination. See ]. ] (]) 21:05, 13 February 2024 (UTC) |
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:I'm not sure about the legalities of uploading specific restorations of public domain films, but like you say it seems way too early to speculate on this kinda thing. ] (]) 16:08, 15 November 2024 (UTC) |
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:::: There are many more "The Wizard of Oz" titles than there are "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz" titles. It is entirely possible for the book to be the primary topic of the longer title, while no subject is the primary topic of the shorter title, in part because it is also used as shorthand for the book. ] ] 23:17, 13 February 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::But the book is sometimes known as ''The Wizard of Oz'' <u>because</u> of the film's enormous popularity. ] (]) 20:28, 15 February 2024 (UTC) |
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*'''Support'''. The dab page currently at ] is averaging 158 views per day, which is way too high for a dab page. It seems obvious that most readers want and expect an article about the famous and highly influential film at that title, based on , as well as Google searches mentioned above. The book is also significant, even though it gets only about 25% of the pageviews of the film, but happily is already ]LY disambiguated by using its best title, and can be linked directly from a hatnote. All other uses combined are far behind the film. ] (]) 21:37, 15 February 2024 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''' - per {{noping|Station1}}, they make a sensible argument. - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">] <small>(])</small></span> 21:57, 15 February 2024 (UTC) |
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*'''Oppose''', the book and the film hold equal long-term significance, and both are the common name for their topics even though the book has a longer formal name. Misplaced Pages should have a long memory (into the past and into the future), and in a long-memory timeline the novel and the book are, equally, ''The Wizard of Oz'' <small>as is that guy behind the curtain</small>. ] (]) 01:18, 17 February 2024 (UTC) |
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I know it's very early, but with 10 years to go until the film becomes public domain, just wondering which remaster of the film we will upload to Wikimedia Commons when the time comes. I'm thinking it should be the more recent remaster from 2018 used for the 4K Blu-ray release as it is the highest-quality and most detailed print of the film to date and restores the original colors. HM2021 (talk) 15:47, 15 November 2024 (UTC)