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== Other three major assassinations? == |
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== May 2018. 2 of RFK's children believe there was a 2nd gunman == |
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The introduction notes that RFK was "one of four major assassinations in the United States that occurred during the 1960s." While that sentence links to the entire decade of the 60s, a link that explains what the other three assassinations were (presumably MLK JFK and Malcolm X) would probably be appropriate. ] (]) 21:32, 2 March 2023 (UTC) |
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RFK Jr. did an interview with the Washington Post: |
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:What is meant is in the article, but I wouldn't think that Malcolm X's assassination was more important than those of Medgar Evers and Lincoln Rockwell (who is listed at ] with the two Kennedys, while the others are not), as well as the killings of James Chaney, Andrew Goodman, and Michael Schwerner, all of which are included in the more comprehensive ]. ] (]) 09:35, 3 March 2023 (UTC) |
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*'''.''' By Tom Jackman. May 26, 2018. ''''']'''''. |
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*'''''' By Tom Jackman. June 5, 2018. ''''']'''''. |
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*'''.''' By IrishCentral Staff. June 02, 2018. IrishCentral. |
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--] (]) 06:08, 6 June 2018 (UTC) |
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== nonsense about hypnosis == |
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Newer article in the UK's Daily Express, 2 October 2019. |
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''Herbert Spiegel, a Columbia University psychologist, said that Sirhan was probably induced via hypnosis into firing a gun in the direction of Kennedy without knowing what he was doing and without being able to recall either the events or the process of having been programmed. Spiegel suggested that he was in a state of hypnotically-induced amnesia during the time of his arrest as well as afterwards.'' |
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* UK Daily Express 2 October 2019. ] (]) 10:59, 2 October 2019 (UTC) |
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Why is this fringe conspiracy nonsense included in the article? -- ] (]) 13:39, 20 November 2023 (UTC) |
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== 2,410 evidence photos destroyed in 1968. Also, door jambs and ceiling tiles == |
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:It's been removed, all that text was written by one editor with an obvious agenda ]] 11:13, 10 July 2024 (UTC) |
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Los Angeles Police Department's ] was in charge: |
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== Thane Eugene Cesar. Robert F Kennedy Jr.. "Better source needed" == |
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"California has released voluminous files on the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy in 1968, including a document showing that 2,410 photographs that were evidence in the case were destroyed that year. A scholar who pushed for release of the files says the destruction is ''deeply suspicious'' and should be investigated. ... the police also destroyed door jambs and ceiling tiles from the kitchen of the Los Angeles Ambassador Hotel where Mr. Kennedy was gunned down. Mr. Stone and other experts maintain that those items might have shed light on how many bullets were fired and on whether there was a second gunman." |
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Currently the article says "Better source needed" concerning ] saying that Thane Eugene Cesar was the shooter that fired the shots that hit and killed his father. |
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Above quote is from this article: |
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*. ] (AP). April 21, 1988. ''].'' |
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--] (]) 08:38, 5 June 2018 (UTC) |
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Here is a Nov 12, 2023 video of Robert Kennedy Jr. going into detail about that: |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 30 January 2020 == |
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*Youtube: . On . By ]. Date is found by hovering over the number of views. Date pops up. |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 3 October 2024 == |
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In the last paragraph of the lead, make the following change:"...he didn't act alone." --> "..he did not act alone." ] (]) 20:04, 30 January 2020 (UTC) |
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:] '''Done'''<!-- Template:ESp --> in two places in the article per ]. <small> In other news, that's possibly my new favorite wikishortcut.</small> ‑‑''']''' <small>(])</small> 21:18, 30 January 2020 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 28 June 2020 == |
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I am requesting that either I or an approved moderator alter the initials present on the first image of the page. It currently reads "Rfk assassination", It would be better, I feel to re-state the article title as: "Assassination of RFK" ] (]) 21:28, 3 October 2024 (UTC) |
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Please change four instances of "Ernard" to "Erhard" in the "Assassin's gun" section. ] (]) 04:46, 28 June 2020 (UTC) |
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:] '''Done'''<!-- Template:ESp --> ] (]) 05:09, 28 June 2020 (UTC) |
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:] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> Don't see the point. It's just the file name for the image, doesn't appear in the article at all ] (]) 21:45, 3 October 2024 (UTC) |
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::It looks like only three instances were changed, but thanks for getting the process started. ] (]) 06:51, 28 June 2020 (UTC) |
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::] '''Done'''<!-- Template:ESp --> ] (]) 09:57, 28 June 2020 (UTC) |
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:::Thanks much. ] (]) 17:23, 28 June 2020 (UTC) |
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== Frank Mankiewicz quote is incorrect == |
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If you listen to actual recordings of Mr. Mankiewicz speaking, it's clear he is actually saying (bold words inserted, strikeout removed from original): |
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"I have a short announcement to read, which I will read at this time. Senator Robert Francis Kennedy died at 1:44 a.m. '''today''', June 6, 1968. With Senator Kennedy at the time of his death were his wife Ethel, his sisters Mrs. Stephen Smith, Mrs. Patricia Lawford, {{strike|his}} brother-in-law Mr. Stephen Smith, {{strike|and}} his sister-in-law Mrs. John F. Kennedy. He was 42 years old. {{strike|Thank you.}}" |
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This is a very clear recording of everything after the first sentence: <span style="text-shadow:2px 2px 4px red;">]</span><span style="text-shadow:3px 3px 4px blue;"><small>]</small></span> 18:33, 15 July 2021 (UTC) |
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== We should talk more about the media coverage == |
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say how the media coverage the shooting rfk as it happened ] (]) 02:18, 7 December 2024 (UTC) |
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The article could perhaps need some formal review, checking it against the FA criteria. It was promoted eons ago, back in 2008. There are huge swaths of unsourced texts, as well as tags for inappropriate colloquialisms. I am also not positive that it is comprehensive, since the discourse around the shooting has changed significantly the last decade. The 'See also' should prolly also be nuked. ] (]) 21:53, 16 November 2021 (UTC) |
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The introduction notes that RFK was "one of four major assassinations in the United States that occurred during the 1960s." While that sentence links to the entire decade of the 60s, a link that explains what the other three assassinations were (presumably MLK JFK and Malcolm X) would probably be appropriate. 150.135.165.56 (talk) 21:32, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
Here is a Nov 12, 2023 video of Robert Kennedy Jr. going into detail about that:
I am requesting that either I or an approved moderator alter the initials present on the first image of the page. It currently reads "Rfk assassination", It would be better, I feel to re-state the article title as: "Assassination of RFK" Jonnqy (talk) 21:28, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
Not done: Don't see the point. It's just the file name for the image, doesn't appear in the article at all Cannolis (talk) 21:45, 3 October 2024 (UTC)