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If you have come here to place a request for a re-confirmation of my adminship, please note that I will either:

• seek community approval of my adminship through an RfC; (no consensus = no change)
• choose to take the matter to ArbComm;
• resign my powers and stand again for adminship;

at my discretion

• once the "six editors in good standing" count has been met using my own criteria
• and the matter concerns my admin powers rather than a non-admin editing concern.

1. Remember, this is a voluntary action, and does not preclude an RfC or RfAr being initiated by others, should others feel they have no recourse.
2. My "good standing" criteria include

a) the requirement that if the user is calling for recall is an admin, the admin must themselves have been in this category for at least a week.

b) the requirement that the user should be neutral towards my person. This means that if a user is or has been involved in a DR procedure with me as a party, I doubt that user is neutral and I reserve the right to not count this editor as "an editor in good standing" in this case. Hint: it's easy to find a neutral party, like mediators - if you can convince them you are right...

c) I reserve the right to impose additional criteria in the future.

ArbCom/Piotrus

Your behavior will be scrutinized here: M.K. 10:16, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Piotrus, I would like to express my support for you in this matter; it is clear that M.K.'s accusations are without merit. I am not listed as one of the "involved parties", but I wonder if it's still possible for me to provide a statement to ArbCom? Appleseed (Talk) 19:41, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Polish translation of edit summary

Hi there...

I am wondering, as someone who indcates they can translate polish, could you review the following edit summary for this diff and let me know it's general content. Based on the topic and the fact the edit reversed my editing, I believe it is likely in polish and directed at me. It is unlikely I will report it or anything, but it is always nice to know if someone is slamming you. Thanks.--User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 12:47, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Another user got to this already. Thanks anyways.--User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 13:16, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Policies

Your latest proposal seems to have broken ilink...-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 19:38, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks I have now fixed it, Buy what did you think about it?Max ╦╩ 20:16, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

koloman gögh

you are invited to improve article, thanks --Mt7 20:44, 20 April 2007 (UTC) what you say is humbug, no one is czechoslovak player Ján Čapkovič, Antonín Panenka, Ladislav Jurkemik,Ivo Knoflíček, František Plánička, Ján Švehlík, Josef Masopust, Alexander Vencel (born 1944), Ivo Viktor, we need a new wikipedia for you. --Mt7 21:07, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject

Thanks for the link. I will take a look. How did you know about my interest in this sort of stuff? --HappyCamper 04:56, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Prodding List of... article

I do not think that you should be prodding List of... articles as you currently are doing. You tried to mass AfD them, and that did not work; nor was there consensus that it was a good idea. Nowhere have I seen evidence of consensus being reached that the deletion is a good thing. I think you should seek to get some consensus before engaging in this exercise. At the moment it appears to be your personal opinion that there's something wrong with these articles; you look like you're rampaging through Misplaced Pages without giving a second thought to other people's opinion.--Tagishsimon (talk)

Yeah, I've read more now & see slightly better where you're coming from. The UK list does seem to be actively maintained. Can't speak for others. Let's see if they get deprodded; I'll stand on the side-lines. --Tagishsimon (talk)

The Polish Barnstar of National Merit, 2nd Class

Thank you, Piotr. I appreciate it very much. I'm moving the awards to my userpage. Thanks a million. --Poeticbent  talk  22:29, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

You are welcome

But - remember, every rose has thorns :) The more active you are, the more effort you put in - the more enemies you make... there are days I wonder if it is worth it, really... -- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  00:05, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I'm aware of that new development . I read the initial statements yesterday but only today noticed how other somewhat familiar names have reappeared jumping with glee on the bandwagon. I don't know what to say, I don't have the nerve for exchanges that lead nowhere like in the case of Anti-Polonism versus the euphemistic Anti-Polish sentiment and so on. This is why I admire your stamina even more. --Poeticbent  talk  01:58, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

You don't have to say anything - in many regards you are luckly you don't have to waste time on that. On the other hand, if you agree with some of the comments, or disagree with others, you are certainly allowed to comment. Ability to diffuse information quickly and receive comments from all sides are what makes Misplaced Pages strong, after all. And the dilemma of being silent is similar to the one of 'should I vote in the elections or not? Kind of a free rider dilemma when I think of it: if others will comment and solve it, it's good, I don't have to do anything... but if everyone will think like that... anyway, no hurry, and certainly, no pressure :) PS. You send me MSN info once but I never saw you afterwards - are you still using it?-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  02:08, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

I think you have a strong case there but I will look at the comments again tomorrow morning and possibly express my opinion in this matter. I’m going to see a play tonight and have to get ready. The problem is that some of those diatribes take hours to read and make me feel guilty for wasting time trying to get to the bottom of it. The long learning curve of some of those hard-headed editors make me think of my father. --Poeticbent  talk  02:23, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Arbitration statement length

Please note that an arbitrator has requested that you reduce the length of your statement on Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration. Thank you. Newyorkbrad 14:07, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 22 April, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Polish legislative election, 1928, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Did you know? was updated. On April 23, 2007, a fact from the article Maryla Jonas, which you recently nominated, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Reification (fallacy)

Thanks for the article, Piotrus. How does one generate the kind of notice that I received from you the next time a user accesses en.Misplaced Pages?

Two comments on the article: Your subheading "Ethymology" is not as familiar as the equivalent "Etymology" – the former redirects to the latter in en.Misplaced Pages. Also, in the "Theory" section you write "A reification circle refers to the event when a norm, first seen as artificial and forces,...." It makes sense to me if "forces" should be "forced" but perhaps you had something else in mind that I'm not getting. I'll duplicate these comments on the Reification (fallacy) talk page if you want to discuss. —Blanchette 06:10, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

a recent {{prod}}

I left a message for you here.

I can see your point about not keeping redundant information, as the two locations can get out of sync, causing confusion. But, if the out-of-date, and possibly redundant info hasn't been checked, before the article is removed, it is lost. And I think that should be checked first. Probably a lot of work to do a proper job of it.

Cheers! -- Geo Swan 15:24, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

LWD Szpak

On 24 April, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article LWD Szpak, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Your arbcom comment

Thanks for your comment wrt the Romania case. You wrote:

However if incivility and other disruptive behaviour took place, it should be analyzed And if some parties who are guilty of it here are the same who come up in other cases (like mentioned Latvia case), I think ArbCom should consider doing something about such repeated offenders: looking over Romania case, I certainly see disruption by some people whose behaviour has been condemned by both past ArbCom cases, and in other DR proceedings

Maybe I am suffering from certain delusions, but may be I am correct on who you mean by "certain users". In this case, please reread the Latvia case, note the list of users ArbCom found engaged in "poor behavior", reread the talk of the Romania article find those engaged in poor behavior there as well and compare the list. I am writing to you off the arbcom page because the page is already loaded, but I welcome your continued scrutiny. In fact, from the pattern of your edits that show up in certain articles I am aware of being under the radar and it does not bother me. So, I would be interested in your more detailed analysis rather than a totally unsupported statement. --Irpen 05:52, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Leaving my comments in the air with lost context

When you remove or significantly alter your comments to which I already replied, my comments start to look irrelevant at worst or strange and mysterious at best. Please post your new thoughts below (rather than in place) of old thoughts so that I know what I should be replying to and the reader may follow the discussion. TIA, --Irpen 05:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Somehow one of my comments there got duplicated and I needed to fix it. By all means please note your reply was to an earlier version of my post if it matters, I occasionaly expand my post with relevant items and if we talk in near-same time it may be indeed somewhat confusing. On your side, please remember to indent your posts properly, this makes everything much less confusing.-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  06:55, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

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3O ToT

I am removing Misplaced Pages:Third opinion Time of Troublesrequest because you did not include the section on the talk page it related to and there seem to be more than two people involved now. If I am mistaken please resubmit. --Philip Baird Shearer 00:49, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Polish Communes

Hi. You are an admin here, so I'd like to ask you for something. After my talk with User:Marcin Suwalczan, we agreed to keep standard of "Name Commune", not "Gmina Name". But I was move few articles before: Gmina Abramów; Gmina Adamów, Łuków County; Gmina Adamów, Zamość County; Gmina Adamówka, Gmina Aleksandrów, Biłgoraj County; Gmina Aleksandrów, Piotrków Trybunalski County; Gmina Aleksandrów Kujawski and Gmina Aleksandrów Łódzki, all of them should be moved back. And, as You know, it is not possible without deletion of redirect pages. Sorry for this perturbation. Regards Lajsikonik 20:42, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

User:87.187.170.182(talk)

We have a new anon on a destructive spree. Can you take care of this? Thanks. --Poeticbent  talk  15:13, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

IRC

Okay, you're added. You may have to type /msg chanserv invite #wikipedia-en-admins before joining. --Interiot 17:56, 26 April 2007 (UTC)