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== Deadnaming == |
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I don’t think her deadname should be mentioned ] (]) 23:13, 13 December 2022 (UTC) |
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Why are the pronouns feminine? A person cannot changer their sex. There's a reason it's called transgender surgery and not transsexual surgery. ] (]) 01:37, 29 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:] covers why we mention the notable deadnames of notable people. Caitlyn Jenner was quite notable under her deadname, and should be mentioned in that capacity. If Caitlyn had not been notable before the transition and name change, we would not mention the deadname. Thanks! ] (]) 21:36, 15 December 2022 (UTC) |
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:WP:GENDERID, which is linked above, will have your answers. While I'm at, I have to note that a few of your "corrections" gave male pronouns to ]. I have the original sentences below: |
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:: '''Please do not edit this; her name at the time of their marriage was Kardashian. If it were listed as Kris Jenner, ''' Caitlyn Jenner may have been a few things, but she was never a Kardashian. ] 06:29, 29 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:: ''Jenner has six children with three successive wives{{snds}}Chrystie Crownover, ], and ]{{snds}}and from 2007 to 2021 appeared on the ] series '']'' with Kris, their daughters ] and ], '''as well as Kris's other children from her previous marriage''', ], ], ], and ].'' Kris's children, not Caitlyn's. ] 06:29, 29 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:pronouns are an aspect of language not chromosomal sex. if Caitlyn wished to be reffered to by the pronouns 'Squee/Squem' it would have nothing to do with her biology. ] (]) 13:34, 26 November 2024 (UTC) |
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I think you should add what she said about TikTok influencer Dylan mulvany. Dylan was talking about trans girls’ tucking issues, and saying that she doesn’t have to perfectly tuck and be smooth just so she can get respect and not get attacked. Caitlyn was tweeting about Dylan’s video, misgendering Dylan and calling her “he”, and saying that “he is talking about his penis”. Caitlyn Jenner, a trans woman that had most of her transition on a silver platter because she was famous before coming out, is attacking and misgendering a fellow trans girl that was sharing her experience very respectfully on the internet, on her own TikTok account, while also being educational. Please add that to the wiki page. Thank you ] (]) 21:38, 5 January 2023 (UTC) |
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Seems way too sparse. What were his reactions? Did he (correct pronouns in Feb '15) have nothing to say? Were there no police reports? "Reports differ" carries way too much weight here. Stating he was "involved" is weaseling, did he or did he not bear responsibility for KILLING someone? Has she still remained silent after all these years? Surely this deserves more attention than some one-off appearance on TV.] (]) 19:02, 13 November 2024 (UTC) |
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:This sounds petty and seems to primarily be an attempt to slander and bully; probably not a good use of space on this Wiki page. ] (]) 00:30, 10 January 2023 (UTC) |
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== former Olympic gold medal-winning decathlete == |
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== The misgendering of Jenner in this article is a bad idea == |
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{{atop|This is an issue with ], not this specific article. Please use ] or the MOS talk page to discuss this. ] ] 23:40, 8 March 2023 (UTC)}} |
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This article is a good case example of the shortcomings of Misplaced Pages's policy on articles about transgender people, which seems to be to just refer to them as though they actually were the gender they claim a desire to be. I don't know whether these editorial policies are set by Barnes or just coalesce by group consensus, but this one is silly at best and creepy at worst, and it's amazing (and sad) to me to see Misplaced Pages, where accuracy ought to be paramount, continue it. |
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I have manually reverted this as she's still an Olympic gold medalist. ] (]) 00:17, 9 December 2024 (UTC) |
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In the case of someone this high-profile it serves less to confuse the reader (to whom Jenner's likely to already be a known figure) than to simply discredit Misplaced Pages as a truthful source. ] (]) 23:36, 8 March 2023 (UTC) |
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Why are the pronouns feminine? A person cannot changer their sex. There's a reason it's called transgender surgery and not transsexual surgery. Countryboy603 (talk) 01:37, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
Seems way too sparse. What were his reactions? Did he (correct pronouns in Feb '15) have nothing to say? Were there no police reports? "Reports differ" carries way too much weight here. Stating he was "involved" is weaseling, did he or did he not bear responsibility for KILLING someone? Has she still remained silent after all these years? Surely this deserves more attention than some one-off appearance on TV.98.17.42.35 (talk) 19:02, 13 November 2024 (UTC)