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== This one looks like a mix-up to me == | |||
== ] == | |||
I see that someone last year merged a separate DAB page into ], which IMO is not very helpful because the films and TV series are right down the bottom, and many of the names have more than one blue link, etc. Does anyone else think that they should be separated again? ] (]) 23:48, 19 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
This seems to me to be a particularly bad example of something not being an actual disambiguation page, but I am at a loss for a solution. ] ] 22:06, 14 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
⚫ | == Requested move of ] == | ||
:It's functioning as an index to articles relevant to the topic of child protection that in most cases someone using the search term "child protection" might be looking for (putting aside for now any quibbles about specific inclusions/exclusions). That's definitely a valuable page to have even if it doesn't strictly fit the arbitrary rules about what can be called a "disambiguation page". Unless anyone can explain what actual (not theoretical) harm it's doing then leaving it as is seems like the best solution. ] (]) 00:31, 15 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
:: I agree that it is functioning as an index, and should therefore be at a title like ], or the like. These are not ambiguous topics sharing a name. ] ] 02:18, 15 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::That title wouldn't be navigationally helpful. ] (]) 01:19, 15 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
⚫ | There is a requested move discussion at ] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ] (]) 21:03, 22 November 2024 (UTC) | ||
== What is the rule here? == | |||
<small>[doing this manually since RMCloser doesn't give me the option of notifying this project for some reason</small> | |||
⚫ | == Requested move at ] == | ||
I got alerted to , to an entry in the Japanese wiki. It doesn't seem to be particularly helpful, but I can't seem to find a specific rule for this kind of entry. Can someone let me know yay or nay, and point me to a rule, please? ] (]) 06:35, 26 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
⚫ | ] There is a requested move discussion at ] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ] 16:04, 23 November 2024 (UTC) | ||
==Discussion at ]== | |||
:A general guideline is ]: {{tq2|... {{tl|Interlanguage link}} template may be helpful to show a ] accompanied by an interlanguage link if no article exists in English Misplaced Pages.}} —] (]) 16:05, 26 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
] You are invited to join the discussion at ]. <span class="nowrap">—''']'''</span> <sup class="nowrap">(] • {]•]})</sup> 13:52, 10 December 2024 (UTC)<!-- ] --> | |||
::Ah yes, I have seen those and used them in articles myself, thank you. But can they be used without a blue link to the English wiki in an entry on a DAB page? ] (]) 05:34, 27 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::Oh, it appears that ] is ]: {{tq2|If the article to be disambiguated does not have an article on the English Misplaced Pages, but has an article on a sister project in another language, the term may be linked to the sister project using the {{tl|interlanguage link}} template ... Use of the {{tl|interlanguage link}} template is not a substitute for the need to have a red link from an existing article for the disambiguating term (per ]) ...}} The latter portion suggests that another page (not just the dab) would need to have a red link to the Japanese group —] (]) 05:43, 27 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::Oh - thank you for that. I will get back to it and check later. ] (]) 08:33, 27 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
⚫ | == Requested move at ] == | ||
] There is a requested move discussion at ] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ] (]) 03:26, 30 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Requested move at ] == | |||
⚫ | ] There is a requested move discussion at ] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ] |
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] There is a requested move discussion at ] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ] 18:32, 4 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Requested move at ] == | |||
] There is a requested move discussion at ] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. --] ] 01:54, 7 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
== All caps == | |||
] vs ]. Is having two separate dabs be justified in this case? ] (]) 19:33, 9 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
:Given there are just 7 entries and three see also (excluding those to each other) between the two pages, I would be in favour of merging. Probably to ] as that's the longer of the two. ] (]) 21:59, 9 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
::Does this need a merging discussion in the talk pages? ] (]) 00:04, 10 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::If you think it will be controversial, yes start a formal merge discussion. If you think it will be uncontroversial, no - just be bold and do it. A middle ground would be to just leave pointers on the talk page to this discussion and wait a few days to see what the response (if any) is. Personally, I'd wait until circa 24 hours after you asked the question here and then just do if there have been no objections as I'd be surprised if it was controversial at all. ] (]) 01:43, 10 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::I personally thought there was a policy on such cases. Because I don't know a another similar case alike. ] (]) 01:45, 10 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::::We have ] which is a guideline that deals with capitalisation differences in the first bullet. It's worded more strongly than I remembered, but it basically says to combine topics that differ only in capitalisation unless the combined page would be "unreasonably long", giving ] as an example of a combined dab page (that covers Oe, OE and various ligatures and variants with diacritics). "Unreasonably long" isn't defined, but a combined REGI/Regi dab will definitely not be. ] (]) 01:55, 10 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
:I would think of it this way - how likely is it that the average reader distinguishes these two, can we see a separate pattern of traffic for each group? | |||
:If we merge, will this improve navigation for both groups or make it worse? | |||
:With 2+5=7 items total, it probably doesn't matter, but if a list grows, it becomes a concern. We recently mentioned something like this at ] where there were examples with 28 and 46 items. --] (]) 07:27, 10 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
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== Requested move at ] == | |||
] There is a requested move discussion at ] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ] (]) 03:20, 23 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Primary topic? == | |||
I've just created ] as a DAB because it was redirecting to a rather obscure organisation, and its main use is clearly the National Live Music Awards. Just wondering if the latter should be a primary topic in this case, being an initialism? ] (]) 00:37, 27 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
: don't support that. If anything, views indicate the 'obscure' organization might just be the primary topic. ] ≠ ] 00:50, 27 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
::But that's because NMLA was redirecting to that page. The Australian music awards are nearly always referred to as the NLMAs, so many people would be searching on that term. (And if you search on the abbreviation or full name, you will see how many mentions there are on Misplaced Pages.) ] (]) 06:17, 27 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::Sorry, but the total views for the awards are nowhere near that of the group. The initialism gets very little . It is possible that the recent move has somehow totally screwed the results. We can see in another month or two if there is any change. ] ≠ ] 10:17, 27 October 2024 (UTC) |
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This one looks like a mix-up to me
I see that someone last year merged a separate DAB page into Manny, which IMO is not very helpful because the films and TV series are right down the bottom, and many of the names have more than one blue link, etc. Does anyone else think that they should be separated again? Laterthanyouthink (talk) 23:48, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Requested move of Teardown (video game)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Teardown_(video_game)#Requested_move_22_November_2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. JuniperChill (talk) 21:03, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Superstack#Requested move 23 October 2024
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Superstack#Requested move 23 October 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Frost 16:04, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
Discussion at Misplaced Pages talk:Redirects for discussion#Is RFD a valid forum to discuss cases of PTOPIC disambiguation pages?
You are invited to join the discussion at Misplaced Pages talk:Redirects for discussion#Is RFD a valid forum to discuss cases of PTOPIC disambiguation pages?. —CX Zoom 13:52, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
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