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== Removed poorly sourced sentence about Russia == | |||
I removed a sentence and the two sources, references 91 and 92, that were given. 92 is a dead link, and 91 is over 10 years old, so does not contain the "latest polls". It is obviously way out-of-date if you look at the Google translate, since it includes Belorussia and China among Russia's main enemies. Currently Belorussia is supporting Putin's war against Ukraine, and China is also more an ally than an enemy. ] (]) ] (]) 20:36, 13 February 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Semi-protected edit request on 8 July 2023 == | |||
{{edit semi-protected|Anti-Americanism|answered=yes}} | |||
Change the misspelled word "Paraguyan" to "Paraguayan", only. ] (]) 17:10, 8 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
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== Move: Anti-Americanism → Anti-American sentiment == | == Move: Anti-Americanism → Anti-American sentiment == | ||
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::(BTW, sorry for the late response.) | ::(BTW, sorry for the late response.) | ||
::―<span style="font-family: IM Fell English, IM Fell Pica, EB Garamond, Garamond, Cormorant, Chapbook, serif;">] ('']'')</span> 10:42, 12 September 2023 (UTC) | ::―<span style="font-family: IM Fell English, IM Fell Pica, EB Garamond, Garamond, Cormorant, Chapbook, serif;">] ('']'')</span> 10:42, 12 September 2023 (UTC) | ||
:* '''Support''' This would be in line with pretty much all other articles on xenophobia. I'll start a move discussion? | |||
:] (]) 16:30, 8 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
== The Southeast Asia part contains a picture of a protest against the Islamophobic film "Innocence of Muslims" in Malaysia. However this is not an example of Anti Americanism. That is more like protesting against the movie than America itself. == | |||
The picture is not a good example of Anti Americanism in Southeast Asia.Malaysia is rarely anti American. It's more criticizing the American support of Israel and some incidents that happen during the War on Terror ] (]) 09:38, 29 November 2023 (UTC) | |||
:I agree, and I would support removing that photo from the article. There's a more general problem with this article, in that several of the photos are really about protests against specific actions by the US (and one is about German anti-Dutch propaganda in 1944). The assumption that these protests were due to "anti-Americanism" is unsupported by sources and constitutes ]. This article adopts an overly broad definition of the term "anti-Americanism". It's okay to say (with a source) that angry criticism of US actions is often perceived by many Americans as "anti-Americanism". But that's a perception, not a fact. Max Paul Friedman (reference ) has sharply criticized the tendency to label any criticism of the US as ''anti-Americanism''. ] (]) 11:36, 29 November 2023 (UTC) | |||
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== Semi-protected edit request on 27 March 2024 == | == Semi-protected edit request on 27 March 2024 == | ||
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Request to add ] under a suitable paragraph or ''See also''. | Request to add ] under a suitable paragraph or ''See also''. | ||
] (]) 04:10, 27 March 2024 (UTC) | ] (]) 04:10, 27 March 2024 (UTC) | ||
:{{Done}} It might be a good idea to put it in the lead. —<span style="font-family:Poppins, Helvetica, Sans-serif;">]</span> ] 04:46, 27 March 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Requested move 8 June 2024 == | |||
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] → {{no redirect|Anti-American sentiment}} – This would be in line with almost all other articles on xenophobia, such as ], ], ], ], ], ], and that is just those beginning with 'A'. It is very commonly used in academia, although I don't know whether it is marginally more common than the status quo. ] (]) 16:48, 8 June 2024 (UTC) <small>— '''''Relisting.''''' ] (]) 17:52, 15 June 2024 (UTC)</small> <small>— '''''Relisting.''''' ] (]) 21:00, 22 June 2024 (UTC)</small> | |||
*'''Oppose''' per ]. See . There are other "anti-____ism" articles like ] where that is the common name. ] ] 13:59, 11 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
*:Do we know what’s used more in academia? ] (]) 08:50, 12 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
:For what's its worth, reiterating my '''mild oppose''' for the same reasons that I gave when this came up (above) last September. ] (]) 05:58, 12 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
:<small>'''Relisting comment''': Currently tied; nore input needed. ] (]) 17:52, 15 June 2024 (UTC)</small> | |||
:<small>'''Relisting comment''': Reverting close and relisting, per request on my talk page to allow for additional input ] (]) 21:00, 22 June 2024 (UTC)</small> | |||
*'''Oppose'''. Currently the only evidence of a ] is the Ngrams graph, which shows a strong preference for the current title. Briefly going over the references in the article, both the current and proposed titles are used, but it seems that the current title is more common. If the nominator or another editor can find evidence that "Anti-American sentiment" is the more common name, ping me and I will reconsider; if this discussion has been closed, feel free to start a new one. However, with the current evidence, I oppose this move. ] </span>]] 15:36, 24 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
*:Anti-Americanism is the more common name, but its inconsistency with other articles on xenophobia implies American exceptionalism. Only the European and American examples except this convention (sometimes racism replaces negative sentiment depending on context) ] (]) 15:59, 24 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
*::'''Comment''' 1) Consistency between article naming conventions is a considerably less compelling argument than ]. 2) Suggesting that the name of this article implies American exceptionalism seems a bit overwrought. ] (]) 05:01, 25 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
⚫ | *:::Concur with CAVincent. --] (]) 16:53, 25 June 2024 (UTC) | ||
*:::I’m just saying that it is very ironic for an article on negative sentiment towards American people to be titled in a way that makes it exceptional. I would’ve thought that especially American people would want to counter this. Policy is a guideline remember ] (]) 17:30, 25 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
*:::] is arguably more compelling than ], I'm surprised there is such opposition to this. ] (]) 19:34, 29 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
*'''Oppose'''. Per ] as discussed above. --] (]) 17:45, 24 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
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On 8 June 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Anti-American sentiment. The result of the discussion was not moved. |
Move: Anti-Americanism → Anti-American sentiment
The country-specific articles use "sentiment" rather than "-ism", e.g. Anti-American sentiment in Germany, etc. ―Emperor ÖSMAN IXXVMD (talk) 08:52, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose The term is used much more broadly than conveyed by "sentiment". For example, according to the lead sentence,
sentiments and positions including opposition to its foreign policy
. NightHeron (talk) 09:27, 2 September 2023 (UTC) - Mild Oppose I say "mild" in that the suggestion isn't egregiously wrong, and if there were consensus for it that would seem fine to me. However, per NightHeron, the term "Anti-Americanism" is generally broader in usage and this seems to be reasonably well explained in the lead. Also noting that "Anti-American sentiment" is already a redirect to this article, so anyone looking for sentiments is going to find it. CAVincent (talk) 10:24, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: It literally says
Anti-Americanism (also called anti-American sentiment or Americanophobia) is ...
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- Comment: It literally says
- (BTW, sorry for the late response.)
- ―Emperor ÖSMAN IXXVMD (talk) 10:42, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
- Support This would be in line with pretty much all other articles on xenophobia. I'll start a move discussion?
- Alexanderkowal (talk) 16:30, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 25 March 2024
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2605:B100:903:5615:96CA:E801:DC51:58AC (talk) 20:23, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
Add Canada to list of countries that despise Americans.
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. PianoDan (talk) 20:35, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 27 March 2024
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Request to add Pro-Americanism under a suitable paragraph or See also. 223.25.74.34 (talk) 04:10, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- Done It might be a good idea to put it in the lead. —Panamitsu (talk) 04:46, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
Requested move 8 June 2024
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The result of the move request was: not moved. Current title demonstrated to be the WP:COMMONAME. (closed by non-admin page mover) Polyamorph (talk) 10:27, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
Anti-Americanism → Anti-American sentiment – This would be in line with almost all other articles on xenophobia, such as Anti-Albanian sentiment, Anti-African sentiment, Anti-Afghan sentiment, Anti-Armenian sentiment, Anti-Assyrian sentiment, Anti-Azerbaijani sentiment, and that is just those beginning with 'A'. It is very commonly used in academia, although I don't know whether it is marginally more common than the status quo. Alexanderkowal (talk) 16:48, 8 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Favonian (talk) 17:52, 15 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 21:00, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. See Google Ngrams. There are other "anti-____ism" articles like Anti-Europeanism where that is the common name. SilverLocust 💬 13:59, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Do we know what’s used more in academia? Alexanderkowal (talk) 08:50, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- For what's its worth, reiterating my mild oppose for the same reasons that I gave when this came up (above) last September. CAVincent (talk) 05:58, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Relisting comment: Currently tied; nore input needed. Favonian (talk) 17:52, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- Relisting comment: Reverting close and relisting, per request on my talk page to allow for additional input BilledMammal (talk) 21:00, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. Currently the only evidence of a WP:COMMONNAME is the Ngrams graph, which shows a strong preference for the current title. Briefly going over the references in the article, both the current and proposed titles are used, but it seems that the current title is more common. If the nominator or another editor can find evidence that "Anti-American sentiment" is the more common name, ping me and I will reconsider; if this discussion has been closed, feel free to start a new one. However, with the current evidence, I oppose this move. Toadspike 15:36, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Anti-Americanism is the more common name, but its inconsistency with other articles on xenophobia implies American exceptionalism. Only the European and American examples except this convention (sometimes racism replaces negative sentiment depending on context) Alexanderkowal (talk) 15:59, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment 1) Consistency between article naming conventions is a considerably less compelling argument than WP:COMMONNAME. 2) Suggesting that the name of this article implies American exceptionalism seems a bit overwrought. CAVincent (talk) 05:01, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Concur with CAVincent. --Coolcaesar (talk) 16:53, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- I’m just saying that it is very ironic for an article on negative sentiment towards American people to be titled in a way that makes it exceptional. I would’ve thought that especially American people would want to counter this. Policy is a guideline remember Alexanderkowal (talk) 17:30, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Misplaced Pages:Consistency in article titles is arguably more compelling than WP:Common name, I'm surprised there is such opposition to this. Kowal2701 (talk) 19:34, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment 1) Consistency between article naming conventions is a considerably less compelling argument than WP:COMMONNAME. 2) Suggesting that the name of this article implies American exceptionalism seems a bit overwrought. CAVincent (talk) 05:01, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Anti-Americanism is the more common name, but its inconsistency with other articles on xenophobia implies American exceptionalism. Only the European and American examples except this convention (sometimes racism replaces negative sentiment depending on context) Alexanderkowal (talk) 15:59, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. Per WP:COMMONNAME as discussed above. --Coolcaesar (talk) 17:45, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
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