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== September 2024 ==

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== Your submission at ]: ] (September 27) ==
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<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span><sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 21:53, 27 September 2024 (UTC)</div><!--Template:AfC decline-->

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:Oh, I'm not disappointed at all. I didn't make the article, I just tried to fix it. I cannot, however, find anything substantial about the person the article is about. I was originally going to suggest the article be deleted, but it was moved to draftspace before I could propose it should be deleted. There is no real significant coverage of the person's life, worse yet is that the secondary sources that discuss the person indicate that they're either highly exaggerated at best or completely fictional at worst. <b>]</b> 21:57, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

== A barnstar for you! ==

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== Kindly requesting you self-revert ==

Hi, and hope you're doing well. May I kindly ask you please revert your tagging of socks at ] and ]? From the first bullet point under ]: {{tq|Do not place tags on their talk or user pages. There are a number of different tags that can be used, and often there are reasons why tags shouldn't be used}}. Thank you! ] (] '''·''' ]) 14:40, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

:Oh, okay. I had seen it done elsewhere and assumed it was just a typical thing to do. Done and done. <b>]</b> 20:23, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
:That said, I am slightly confused because ] said {{tq|Tag the sockmaster's user page – Unless otherwise directed, the sockmaster needs to be tagged, if it has not already been done.}} and {{tq|Appropriately tag the sock puppet's user page – Unless otherwise directed to, the sock puppet needs to be tagged, if it has not already been done.}} which gives the impression that they need to be tagged? <b>]</b> 20:39, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you. (My understanding is that SOCKTAG is for Checkusers.) ] (] '''·''' ]) 23:04, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
:::Oooh, okay. Thanks! <b>]</b> 23:39, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

== Your submission at ]: ] (September 28) ==
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:@] I am slightly confused by this as I had asked the last reviewer if the fact that she had an entry in the Biographical Dictionary of Chinese women (which I included in the recent draft), meet the notability requirement, and the last reviewer said yes, it would per ] {{special:Diff/1248224834}}. I wouldn't have submitted it again if not for the fact that I had been told it met notability? <b>]</b> 23:43, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
::The sentence "Little is known about the life of Han E" is what makes me decline your draft. I recommend removing that and resubmitting. ] (]) 13:36, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
:::Very well, I only included it because it was what the sources say. For instance, the Biographical Dictionary says {{tq|Although little is known about her, as a talented singer whose singing had such a tremendous effect on her audience Han'e occupies an important place in the history of Chinese women. The phrase "reverberating around the beams for three days" (rao liang san ri), which is frequently used to praise someone's singing, is a direct reference to her.}}. <b>]</b> 04:08, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
::::Understood. If you disagree with me, you can resubmit and another reviewer will take a look. ] (]) 14:05, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::Oh, I don't disagree. I changed the wording. I was just explaining why I had used it in the first place. The subject is a confusing thing for me because I teeter back and forth between whether or not it needs an article. The subject is recorded, but only seemingly in a Taoist manuscript. They seemingly meet ] by being in the Biographical Dictionary of Chinese Women, but there really is little record of their historical life beyond what seems to be a folktale recorded in the Taoist manuscript. However, Han'e ends up being mentioned later on by others, with talented singers being compared to Han'e or being called Han'e reincarnated, she is credited with creating an entire style of singing that became popular in the State of Qi in the Taoist Manuscript, but ''Mencius'' attributes the style to someone else, and there's an entire popular idiom in Chinese that is a reference to her. That said, almost all of the sources relating to Han'e admits that the stories about her are exagerrated at best or just folklore and fictive at worst. Even the name "Han'e" might not even be her actual name but rather a title because I have seen it translated as "Beauty of Han" and she is from the State of Han. At this point I have exhausted my ability to find any more sources that describe her, so if it doesn't pass muster this time than my first instinct that the article should have been deleted is probably correct. <b>]</b> 03:19, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

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