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== Brahma Kumaris == |
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Brahma Kumar and ] follow God Shiva. We have 1,000,000 followers and 8,500 centers and give accurate knowledge, also associated with United Nations and many VIPs come. What is problem? |
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== shiva's son ayyappa == |
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Namaskaram all. |
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this talk page new section created to stop edit war.especially edit war created by the |
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user Redtigerxyz. Please explain mr Redtigerxyz why ayyappa name do not occur in the lead?Namaskaram]] 19:06, 29 May 2014 (UTC) |
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According to talk page of the user Redtigerxyz ,what he mentioned as a reference which is not reliable reference.Will you agree MrRedtigerxyz?Namaskaram]] 20:06, 29 May 2014 (UTC) |
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Ayyappa is a regional deity from Kerala, which hardly any basis in the pan-Hindu scriptures like the Puranas or the epics. There are several regional deities who enjoy the same claim of being Shiva's child; see "Ascetic and Householder" section. Why should Ayyappa be given priority over Manasa from Bengal, Ashokasundari from Gujarat, the Tamil Aiyangar or Hanuman (who in only 1 scripture the Shiva Purana is the son of Shiva and Mohini; not in lead as a fringe belief).--] <sup> ] </sup> 16:26, 30 May 2014 (UTC) |
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:Namaskaram mr red tiger. Do you have any idea or list for pan hindu gods.let me know then will it help me in future?how to say it s fringe belief?could you explain ?Then it more helpfull fr me.might you do that for me.thank you <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 22:00, 7 June 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Actually the infobox only contains the name of those children of Shiva which are accepted by Majority of scriptures. Kartikeya and Ganesha are but not Aiyappa. He is only accepted as Shiva's child in some scriptures. There are many other children of Shiva in other legends and scriptures like ], ], ] and many more. But this infobox should only contains those which are accepted Shiva's children by majority of legends and scriptures. These other children of Shiva like Aiyappa are not mentioned at all in majority of scriptures. ] (]) 08:08, 11 June 2014 (UTC) |
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:::hi MythoEditor. can you tell any reliable indian goverment source for that.(both state, centeral govt of india)?!!]] 11:54, 11 June 2014 (UTC) |
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::::We wouldn't use a government source for something like this. Such sources are too often political, determined by the party in power at the time.] (]) 13:23, 11 June 2014 (UTC) |
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::hi mr Dougweller Namaskaram(hai), Are you making fun about Govt of india and its policy.Let me know.if it is not then what do you mean.what do you thinking about People and Govt of India.i will escalate this matter.but before let me know something from you?]] 19:07, 12 June 2014 (UTC) |
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:::Eshwar.om do you yourself have any source that Ayyappa is mentioned in any Sanskritic texts. You don't and that my friend is double standards. Academic sources like books are generally preferred in mythological articles since they are written by academic scholars (atleast sometimes) and thus much more reliable and accurate than some random website on the internet that contains information about religion even if it's a governmet source. Actually government sources are generally not used on Misplaced Pages. Here is one of the books that mentions that Ayyappan is worshipped mainly in Tamil Nadu and Kerala (http://books.google.co.in/books?id=xTJpU6NQ5B4C&pg=PA124&dq=ayyappan&hl=en&sa=X&ei=eFqZU9vgAsanlAWVwoHoAQ&ved=0CCEQ6AEwAjgU#v=onepage&q=ayyappan&f=false) |
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:::Also I wonder why do you want really insist so much on inserting Ayyappa's name. Do you in actual have any proof that Ayyapan is mentioned in the majority of the Sanskritic tex A person does not always have what he wishes on Misplaced Pages. Sometimes you just have to accept it and move on because that's how Misplaced Pages works.. ] (]) 07:52, 12 June 2014 (UTC) |
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::::Namaskaram Mr MythoEditor, You said "A person does not always have what he wishes on Misplaced Pages. Sometimes you just have to accept it and move on because that's how Misplaced Pages works.,yes your correct but dont forget it will suit for you too.and dont forget you blocked recently moretimes.how kaali for west bangal similar likr Tamilnadu main god is karthick.yes tamils worship ayyappa too.Tamil worship vishnu,siva,even some where in tn bramma too.both vaishnava and siva bakthi movement start from Tamil speaking region of south india.i know you know history atleast.yes i am from that region.so better than you i know well.i hope you Can understand.dont forget wikipedia is reliable.Namaskaram ]] 18:54, 12 June 2014 (UTC) |
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:::::When I said person does not always have what he wishes on Misplaced Pages I wasn't intimidating you. I was just telling you it's not necessary that our edits will be accepted by the others and everything I said was in good faith. I already know Shiva and Vishnu and other goda are worshipped in Tamil Nadu. I'm an Indian too. But Ayappa is mostly worshipped in Kerala and Tamil Nadu but Ayyappa is not worshipped by North Indians. I too didn't want Ashoksundari article to be created since I thought she was a work of fiction. I started edit warring over it which I accept was wrong on my part. Later when I found out that theAshoksundari did exist in Padma Purana I myself endorsed the article about Ashoksundari not becauseof any fear because i had realized my mistake and I had even apologized for it.. But that was in the past so you should stop trying to say yo someone that they have been blocked especially when there comments and edits are in good faith. Now I ask you Eshwar.om do you have any proof that Ayyappa exists in the majority of Hindu scriptures like Kartikeya and Ganesha or any Sanskritic scripture? You don't and yet while you ask that others o prove their statement with proof you yourself are not providing any proof for your statement. It is disappointing that while you much are more experienced you are resorting to such double standards. ] (]) 07:25, 13 June 2014 (UTC) |
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::::::] I am not making fun of anything, I am simply stating the fact that the Indian government is not considered by Misplaced Pages to be a reliable source on this sort of religious matter. Our policy on sources is at ] and ]. This doesn't mean that if they made a statement on a religious matter we wouldn't include it, just that we wouldn't see them as the deciding element. There was once an attempt to insist that Jayadeva was born in Odisha because there were state publications saying he was, but as that is disputed we simply made it clear that there was a dispute and did not accept the statement by the state government as fact. You are still a very new editor and like all new editors have a lot to learn about. At about 125,000 edits(a bit more than your 790) I am still learning. ] (]) 11:32, 13 June 2014 (UTC) |
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:Hi Dougweller, |
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i understand.thank you for your Explanation.Yes compare with you i am still a very new editor.At about 125,000 edits(a bit more than my 790) you are still learning.But i am start learning. You are always my Inspiration.Please Remember no Quesions on that.thank you.]] 03:19, 17 June 2014 (UTC) |
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::{{Ping|Eshwar.om}} I recently got to this article and have read about this whole situation. Basically ] is right in saying that unless you yourself have a proof that a deity is worshipped in some place you cannot ask others provide a proof that they are not worshipped in that place since doing that is a double standard. Although we cannot explicitly mention in an article that the deity is not worshipped there however the lack of existence of proof of that deity being worshipped there can itself be somewhat taken that they are not worshipped there sometimes. Also remember that MythoEditor has already proved that Ayyappa is mostly worshipped in Tamil Nadu and Kerala. That means even if he might be worshipped by any other state his worship is very limited. I have read many scriptures of Hinduism and never have I once encountered the name of any other children of Shiva other tthan Kartikeya and Ganesha nor I have read anywhere that name of the "other children" of Shiva exists in the Sanskritic scriptures although I have read that ] exists in Padma Purana. Adding Ayyappa's name is not only unjustified but also somewhat ] since it should only exist those children's names who are held to exist by a majority of scholars and are mentioned in the majority of Hiundu legends and scriptures. For example just because somebody says that Mahatama Gandhi had 5 children should we list a 5th child? No unless it can be proven that he in real has a 5th child we cannot even mention about this in his article. Similar is this case. I'm not saying that Ayyappa is a flase deity just that he is not mentioned in the majority of scriptures and Hindu legends. ] (]) 12:13, 17 June 2014 (UTC) |
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i am sorry Mr KahnJohn27.What your saying? even siva s another son karthick is mostly worshipped in Tamil Nadu and also Kerala.Mainly in tamilnadu.so will you remove his name too from lead.Is that your telling?even karthick called God of Tamils.I hope you know those history and all.]] 18:58, 21 June 2014 (UTC) |
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:@] Sorry for pinging you after so much time for this. Kartikeya is even worshipped in North India and is regarded as Shiva's son by maority of North Indians. However Ayyappa is neither worshipped nor his existence is regarded as true by North Indians. Ayyappa is only a god of South Indian Hindus. While Kartikeya is regarded as a son of Shiva by everyone. As simple as that. ] (]) 12:56, 1 January 2015 (UTC) |
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: hi kahn john any way you accepted Ayyappa is only a god of South Indian Hindus.my question is South india belongs to india or belongs to some others country?!]] 21:17, 9 March 2015 (UTC). |
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== Article disimprovements == |
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Can someone look at and see if the changes are appropriate for a ]. Much of it looks like barely understandable text to me. --] <sup>]</sup> 01:14, 9 May 2015 (UTC) |
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:Yes, those are certainly POV, redundant, miplaced and misformatted edits. I have just not bothered to revert them for now since edit-warring with sock-farms and IPs is a unproductive exercise with some admins unfamiliar with the subject liable to treat it as content dispute and block "both" sides. Have requested the page to be semi-protected instead, and hopefully ] will be attended to soon. |
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: As for the content issue: note that back in March when dealing with presumably the same user(s), I had to reflect what the sources say about the association with Tamil word for 'red'. Goes without saying that if there is anything I missed, or additional reliable sources available, that can be discussed here on the talkpage. ] (]) 01:27, 9 May 2015 (UTC) |
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::], unfortunately with {{u|Salvidrim!}} fully protecting, we now have that stuff stuck in a ] for the next 7 days. Wait until the ] is done and then do an edit request? --] <sup>]</sup> 02:54, 9 May 2015 (UTC) |
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:::Thank you for putting the article back to a stable version {{u|Salvidrim!}}. --] <sup>]</sup> 03:03, 9 May 2015 (UTC) |
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{{U|Salvidrim!}}, thank you for intervening, but is full protection really necessary? I wanted to do some copyediting and now I can't... Isn't semi-protection enough now that the POV pushers and their sockpuppets have been blocked? ] <small>(])</small> 13:36, 9 May 2015 (UTC) |
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== "The root word √śi" == |
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I've never before seen etymologies denoting roots with the sign √, but the section ] does. Shall we remove it? It seems to be a idiosyncrasy of sanskritdictionary.com and it looks strange to me. ] <small>(])</small> 18:35, 10 May 2015 (UTC) |
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:That was probably added by me, and while I believe I have seen the root symbol used for ] elsewhere, that might just be a false memory/confirmation bias on my part. In any case, the symbol is unimportant on this page and I am fine with its removal. ] (]) 18:47, 10 May 2015 (UTC) |
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== Proposed edits == |
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Here are some suggestions for edits to this article: |
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*] needs a definite article before "Hindu text". |
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*:Axel Michaels the Indologist suggests that Shaivism, like Vaishnavism, implies a unity which cannot be clearly found either in religious practice or in philosophical and esoteric doctrine. Furthermore, practice and doctrine must be kept separate. |
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*Move to Position within Hinduism? It isn't about the deity's origins at all. |
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*]: remove. This is too poorly sourced (and written). |
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*The paragraph ] gives a Tamil spelling for unclear reasons, even though the name is Sanskrit in origin. A leftover from the recent edit war? I guess it can just go. |
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*]: needs a contradiction tag, or a fix, for "active ... and more passive" (?). |
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I'll perform these myself once the page protection expires, unless someone beats me to it. ] <small>(])</small> 18:44, 10 May 2015 (UTC) |
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== Consider before edit == |
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First consider meaning of Etymology. I request you to read fully and proceed your way. |
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Shiva is also widely worshipped in Mauritius, Thailand and Sri Lanka. These have some of the oldest idols and biggest temples of the deity. Can someone edit countries of worship please. ] (]) 18:00, 1 April 2024 (UTC) |
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'''Etymology''' is study of the origin of words and the way in which their meanings have changed throughout history. |
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But the article starts “The Sanskrit word Shiva (Devanagari: शिव, śiva) comes from Shri Rudram Chamakam of Taittiriya Samhita (TS 4.5, 4.7) of Krishna Yajurveda.” |
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== Comment. == |
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Before Shri Rudram Chamakam there was no word Siva in Sanskrit which was used to denote “Auspicious One” . |
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Please note Shri Rudram Chamakam is a new work. Say rig Veda is old one. |
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<s>Rm] , not a full Lengthy content in info main box, i already edit by good faith by adding word text in other names as clearly, someone is reverted |
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Is Any can plz reverted as good version my edit in viewed history. |
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CC : @] ] 03:48, 19 June 2024 (UTC) <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--></s> <small>Blocked sock ] (]) 16:38, 1 September 2024 (UTC)</small> |
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Even in Sanskrit works till date Siva does not have a meaning other than mention of the God. It defines the god and his characteristics like auspicious. Rudhira is a Sanskrit word available in the oldest Sanskrit works. |
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:I'm sorry, but you're comment is incomprehensible. ] - ] 06:53, 19 June 2024 (UTC) |
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'''Siva is a Tamil word. Siva has a meaning before naming the god that is color red. |
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Both Rudhira and Siva denotes his color.''' |
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::Atleast can you plz reverted my edit in vishnu wikipedia, i added neutral point of view, but that account unnecessary target me with doubt. my comment is comprehensivle in vishnu wiki history, plz see and accept it by reverted my edit as last is good version. I kindly request to you. ] 07:30, 19 June 2024 (UTC) <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--></s> <small>Blocked sock ] (]) 16:38, 1 September 2024 (UTC)</small> |
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It is a tradition to name the god throughout Sanskrit Vedic / Tamil Scripture works by his color |
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Note in later works, the same god is called as |
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:::This is gibberish. I don't mean to be unkind, but I think you should stick to editing in your native language, because it's clear you do not speak English, even though you may you think you do. ] (]) 08:58, 19 June 2024 (UTC) |
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1.Nilakantha (The one with a blue throat – Nila is color blue and katha denotes throat in Sanskrit). |
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2.Nilalohita (The One With Red And Blue Colour - Nila is color blue and lohita is red in later versions of Sanskrit. Both colors given because his throat alone turned blue other complexion remained red) |
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Not to confuse/ Rudra in new Sanskrit dictionary means only the god “Terrible one”. It is rudhira it became extinct in new Sanskrit works. Lohita is used instead. Arudra is different another name for god. |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 11 July 2024 == |
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'''1.Vedic Proof for God’s color. Yajur Veda given in English''' |
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(http://hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?10407-Lord-Shiva-in-The-Vedas ) |
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Scroll down in the page “under YV 4. 5. 1 onwards-Sri rudram” |
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You will find |
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This Blue-necked (due to drinking poison), Red-complexioned One, who traverses through the sky (in the |
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form of the Sun)�Him do see (with their eyes) the unlettered cowherds as well as the maids carrying |
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water, Him do also see all beings (both high and low). |
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{{Edit semi-protected|Shiva|answered=yes}} |
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'''2.For color additional proof''' |
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I would like to inform an popular, alternate and very important name for Shiva that is not mentioned in this article. Shiva is also referred to as Lord Isar/Eesar, in the Northwestern States of India such as Rajastan, Haryana, and Punjab. One source for this is "The Religions of India: A Concise Guide to Nine Major Faiths", which on this page(https://books.google.com/books?id=pNmfdAKFpkQC&pg=PA123#v=onepage&q&f=false) describes the Ganguar festival involving Shiva as going by the name Isar. Secondly, in the Sikh Japji Sahib, an important religious source written in 1604, in Pauri 9(https://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Japji_Sahib_Pauri_9) Shiva is referred to as Eesar. I hope you can add this as an alternate name for Shiva along Mahadeva and Hara, as shown below: |
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Note – Don’t Read the title which could be misguiding. Title asks why painting god in blue is / making scripture in black read fully the description. |
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"Shiva (/ˈʃɪvə/; Sanskrit: शिव, lit. 'The Auspicious One', IAST: Śiva ), also known as Mahadeva (/məˈhɑː ˈdeɪvə/; Sanskrit: महादेव:, lit. 'The Great God', IAST: Mahādevaḥ, , Hara, or Isar, is one of the principal deities of Hinduism. He is the Supreme Being in Shaivism, one of the major traditions within Hinduism." ] (]) 13:39, 11 July 2024 (UTC) |
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'''3.Sanskrit Dictionary (Meaning for Rudhira)''' |
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:] '''Not done:''' please provide ] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> We cannot cite wikis as they are ], and the book source is a ]. <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace">'''<nowiki>''']<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> (] • ])</span> 10:20, 26 July 2024 (UTC) |
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(http://sanskritdictionary.com/?q=rudhira ) |
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(https://en.wiktionary.org/%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%A7%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B0) |
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(http://spokensanskrit.de/index.php?tinput=rudhira&direction=SE&script=&link=yes) |
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== Shiva and Vishnu == |
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'''4.Tamil Dictionary (Meaning for Siva)''' |
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(http://www.internetpolyglot.com/lesson-4772101240) |
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<s>Read ], |
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No including large content in info, users added sectarian bias. |
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Remove God of time, It's already mentioned as Mahakal in other names. And also Remove Cosmic Dancer , Its meaning is Nataraj , add to his affiliation. |
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Why so much, you not accepted and also add content for Vishnu as Ultimate reality to Narayana and supreme truth as purushottam. |
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Please treat equal to all and this user @] |
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Always add sectarian bias his God, but anyone added related to Vishnu, this user reverted, what a irony, this @] removed Narayana astra weapon to Vishnu not Vishnu uses, but why not removed shiva weapon pashupathastra , pashupathastar also shiva weapon but he didn't use, why removed Vishnu weapon from info, and add to shiva |
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why so much injustice. |
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More info to shiva but less info and old image to Vishnu, |
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This is very bad taste and bad light and very painful to all. |
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:I returned back to Wiki just to save the Mahabharata articles from the sockpuppets of ] and limiting myself to edit the articles related to ] only. Currently, I have no interest in participating in debates related to sects, which irritated me so much that I had to quit few years back. Kindly, don't reach out to me for this. Also please familiarise with Wiki policies, the article ] is classified as a ], so it's obvious it would be better written.]<sup>]]</sup> 15:04, 25 August 2024 (UTC) |
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== Giving up against sockpuppetry == |
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'''5.Sanskrit Name Nilalohita and Nilakantha for god proof .Look for 9th name in list.''' |
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(http://www.drikpanchang.com/hindu-names/gods/lord-shiva/108-shiva-names.html) |
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Sanskrit Name Nilakantha for god proof |
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(http://www.mahashivratri.org/different-names-of-lord-shiva.html ) |
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@] @] @] @] can anyone of you revert the edit done by @] as that information is not unsourced, the reference is provided under reference no.21 in the article, I can't do that as I am not extend confirmed user. Firstly changing the image in article Vishnu with the regional image provided by the sockpuppet of @] and now removing the sourced information from this article to appease the sockpuppet, this sockpuppet creates atleast 10 sock accounts everyday, vandalising the articles left and right and you are boosting his morale by basically giving up against his biased demands, what makes you think this sockpuppet will stop with his sectarian bias and vandalism in future? @] ] (]) 19:57, 27 August 2024 (UTC) |
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Please don’t delete all Tamil related works as mentioned under “Proposed edits”. Sanskrit has its own fame, uniqueness. But do we have to demolish Tamil identity completely to highlight Sanskrit. They call Tamil and Sanskrit as sisters in tradition because of co existence for centuries. Both mentioned as classical languages even by GOI. Is this mess up required? |
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And please recognize the fact. Hindi, Malayalam, Tamil, kannada, telugu Bengali etc are not neesha baashas. |
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:I have reverted those myself if they are sourced; I thought they lacked citations as other remarks had citations to them, earlier it didn't had all other except for god of destruction and supreme being. However, I have kept what I changed in consort field (RS from Doniger provided); other than that please feel to revert that if you think so. Yes, I will refrain myself from participating from pan-Hinduism related discussion and only focus on Mahabharata articles for which I joined the platform. Regards ]<sup>]]</sup> 20:19, 27 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:], I agree, this appeasment is not a wise or sustainable practice. ] (]) 21:33, 27 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:just shut up you fool @], i know you are anti vaishnavas, added less main info and old img for vishnu. |
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:Note ]. This section should be removed after the socks are finally blocked. --] <sup>]</sup> 14:47, 11 May 2015 (UTC) |
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:If they were removed as unsourced why you worried that link are provided under article, this shows that you are Shiva bhakt and vishnu dweshis, i already know that you edit hindi wiki on shiva page . |
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:Is that shiva main info box word looks like whatsppp chat not looks like encyclopedia, adding 3 to 4 info source tip to vishnu and you added more than 7 info unnecessary for shiva , isnt unnecessary infobox crowding. Such as Patron of yog, bhog, master of arts, these are already described in articke then Why adding to top, why you didnt add to vishnu, answers me, if you didnt response or changes made, truth shows that all users are Vishnudveshis . |
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:What a propaganda ! |
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:@] ] (]) 07:02, 27 November 2024 (UTC) |
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::<s>@], Are you happy now, when again repalce image while adding old image. ] (]) 10:12, 28 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:::whats wrong with wiki users, why they promote supremacy, this user @] is shivaa devotee, this @] add so many content on sectarian bias with link, but why anyone not adding vishnu info, this shows you are jealous on lord vishnu, if you follow wikipedia rules, then add old image of shiva in wiki. |
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:::very politics, bad light and bad taste for me , this is not good, even encyclopedia is much better than wikipedia. |
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:::I never use wikipedia. Good bye.......... ] (]) 10:16, 28 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:Yesterday i think, i never use wiki in future life, all are ok, but again revert and shows supremacy to shiva, |
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:Answer my questions. |
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:Why so much info on shiva while comparing to vishnu. |
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:Why old image for vishnu, when good statue to shiva, if cant accept then add old img for shiva, stop supremecay, then will be justice and remove so much info on shiva, or add more info on vishnu equally to shiva, thats it.......................... |
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:@] ] (]) 10:31, 28 August 2024 (UTC) |
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::if wiki users promote good article equally to all, and there is no pointed, not necessary for me while create accounts to edits. |
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:::Why no one responses/.? answer anyone. lols ] (]) 08:14, 29 August 2024 (UTC) |
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::::so many people jeaulous to Lord vishnu for eg in wiki, such as Dasanudasa and red tiger and all fake shiva Andha Bhaktas and so called fools and rascals. ] (]) 08:18, 29 August 2024 (UTC)</s> <small>Blocked sock ] (]) 16:38, 1 September 2024 (UTC)</small> |
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::::The reason why no one is answering is because everything you write is incomprehensible gibberish. ] (]) 09:23, 29 August 2024 (UTC) |
Shiva is also widely worshipped in Mauritius, Thailand and Sri Lanka. These have some of the oldest idols and biggest temples of the deity. Can someone edit countries of worship please. Reena.shiva (talk) 18:00, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
I would like to inform an popular, alternate and very important name for Shiva that is not mentioned in this article. Shiva is also referred to as Lord Isar/Eesar, in the Northwestern States of India such as Rajastan, Haryana, and Punjab. One source for this is "The Religions of India: A Concise Guide to Nine Major Faiths", which on this page(https://books.google.com/books?id=pNmfdAKFpkQC&pg=PA123#v=onepage&q&f=false) describes the Ganguar festival involving Shiva as going by the name Isar. Secondly, in the Sikh Japji Sahib, an important religious source written in 1604, in Pauri 9(https://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Japji_Sahib_Pauri_9) Shiva is referred to as Eesar. I hope you can add this as an alternate name for Shiva along Mahadeva and Hara, as shown below:
"Shiva (/ˈʃɪvə/; Sanskrit: शिव, lit. 'The Auspicious One', IAST: Śiva ), also known as Mahadeva (/məˈhɑː ˈdeɪvə/; Sanskrit: महादेव:, lit. 'The Great God', IAST: Mahādevaḥ, , Hara, or Isar, is one of the principal deities of Hinduism. He is the Supreme Being in Shaivism, one of the major traditions within Hinduism." Vgolf31 (talk) 13:39, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
level-4 vital article is rated GA-class on Misplaced Pages's content assessment scale.
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. We cannot cite wikis as they are user generated, and the book source is a trivial mention. ''']''' (talk • contribs) 10:20, 26 July 2024 (UTC)