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Hi Bill, Just to let you know that as of today I am done with editing Misplaced Pages, for reasons that are well explained on my talk page. It has been great working with you for almost two decades. You are one of the few people left here whom I will miss. If you feel like dropping me a line you can reach me at wikieditor07.sca9z@ncf.ca Same goes for any other Wiki friends here who are watching your page. - ] (]) 00:13, 15 September 2023 (UTC) | |||
Looks like that IP has been blocked. BTW, thanks for the thanks, and welcome back. Hope you can stay. ] <sub>]</sub> 22:31, 13 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:No problem. I'm still mostly retired, but I'm watchlisting close to a thousand pages. I had nearly 30,000 when I retired last year. ] (]) 09:26, 14 September 2024 (UTC) | ||
::: you will be both missed, the place becomes more like a haunted house full of screeching avian beings out of a surreal episode of aircraft accident investigations... The flight recorder replay is showing some very weird objects... ] 06:47, 15 September 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::Thanks, but I haven't left quite yet. We'll see. ] (]) 02:08, 15 September 2023 (UTC) | |||
:* Thanks for anything you can do BilCat! ] (]) 19:33, 27 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
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Hello Bill. You recently did an edit to the Coast Guard HITRON page I had edited and you stated no source stated. The problem is, the “only” source available are the actual people, such as myself, that actually built the unit up from ground zero. Their were only 10 of us, be happy to have a “second” of one of the other plank owner members back me up on any and all info I add to this page, as, not to boast, I am a subject matter expert on. Please do me the courtesy and contact me direct on this request. I anm older now annd a dinosaur when it comes to a lot of computer and Wiki protocols so please, not to excuse my lack of this knowledge, but trying the best I can do as I always do through a 32yr military career. Appreciate your time. Charlie ] (]) 02:07, 16 September 2023 (UTC) | |||
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== B-2 Spirit == | |||
I could not find a source that called it the "Stealth Bomber" instead of the B-2 Spirit as a name, rather than a descriptor. | |||
Do you know what source referred to it as such, especially capitalized? ] (]) 23:34, 12 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
:I searched for "B-2 stealth bomber", and found many mentions, both capitalized and not, from a wide variety of sources. But this is better discussed on the article's talk page so that others can participate. ] (]) 00:18, 13 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
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<del>Hey Bill - just noting that ~~its ] that redirects to ], not ] which, as an aircraft that was actually built and flown, really should have its own page already! - ] <sub>]</sub> 08:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</del> | |||
:HUh, how did I miss that the latter ''did'' redirect? Bah, I need more caffiene! - ] <sub>]</sub> 08:21, 14 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
::Because I just created it, and tagged it as a Redirect with Possibilities. I wish we could still link those, but that seems to be the way things are done now. Red links are no longer considered a good thing like they used to be, at least in practice. ] (]) 08:40, 14 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:::I'm pretty sure it would, if only I had the time to scratch up the sources. It does seem a lot of grognards have too much time on their hands and consider GNG to be less "general" and more "strict" though! - ] <sub>]</sub> 08:49, 14 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::Yup. I'm mostly active again on American aircraft articles, but still semi-retired on the rest of Misplaced Pages. Still too many stupid things going on Misplaced Pages for me to unretire completely. ] (]) 08:54, 14 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::::hey bil glad to see your semi back best regards, ] (]) 06:28, 15 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
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I'm not sure ] agrees, but thanx, - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">] <small>(])</small></span> 23:20, 26 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
*Hey, BilCat, have you any idea what was going on here ? I want to be clear I'm not accusing you of anything, but the interaction is just so ''weird''. Maybe he just ''wishes'' he were you? ]] 00:59, 27 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
:Stop, I made a mistake, I'm who I am, chill out. Leave BilCat of of it, danm. - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">] <small>(])</small></span> 01:04, 27 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
:{{ping|EEng#s}}How in the hell do you get, "me whishing" anytghing, I'm talking to you, and I'm FlightTime. Quit trying to confuse the issue "I" brought to '''You''' UFB - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">] <small>(])</small></span> 01:08, 27 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
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== GE90 == | |||
hi bilcat, can you point me to the MOS where it is written that gaps are not allowed as thousands separators? the one i know: https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers#Numbers states: "In general, digits should be grouped and separated either by commas or by narrow gaps (never a period/full point)." --] (]) 09:48, 24 September 2023 (UTC) | |||
I just changed some of the info to be more consistent with the ]. For instance the 777-300 was never ordered with the GE90, so that combination was never certified with the FAA. Also, the production 777F is often more specifically referred to as the 777-200LRF, in order to distinguish it from the 777-300ERSF conversion. ] (]) 03:27, 3 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:Sorry, I misspoke. However, there's no reason to change from one style to another, per the ] principle. ] (]) 21:23, 24 September 2023 (UTC) | |||
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interesting, ] is contradicting ], but at least it lists strong national ties as acceptable, and reduce ambiguity as acceptable. this article has quite some comma numbers, sources are central europe where the comma is different. this then led to wrong contents like (destilled a little to make it more obvious) "it is 9.10 m long, then they added 1.5 which made it 10.25 m". i at least fall for the same, not calculating correctly any more if i see commas all over the place. so i replaced the commas with gaps (or nothing when the numbers where 4 digits) and the ambiguity was gone. would this be ok for you as well? --] (]) 23:43, 24 September 2023 (UTC) | |||
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:Strong national ties and commonality don't apply in these cases. You should probably read the extremely long discussion at ] first. It doesn't specifically address your suggestions, but it does show there's no consensus for restricting the use of commas as thousands separators. Once you've read that discussion, you could raise your points, and see what happens. I will note that a German editor, ], reverted , including your substantion of gaps for commas. ] (]) 00:31, 25 September 2023 (UTC) | |||
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oh, wow, a discussion if commas are allowed for numbers in SI. i mean, if i'd work for tesla where distances are calculated to avoid running the car over a person or not i would insist alike. on wikipedia that risk does not exist. the original reason i got into this topic is screen readers. one of my colleagues is blind, and he demonstrated his piece with proudness. 2,200 was read "two comma two hundred" while it read 2200 as "2 thousand 2 hundred". i was experimenting with different ways to have both, less ambigous reading for blind and thousands separator at the same time. the best i could find was narrow gaps. in wikipedia they do not show up as a narrow gap character on screen, it is an invisible space produced via ]. the screen reader sees 2200, while our eyes see a grouping 2 200. i keep the knowledge in mind, and when i do something i put gaps in as well. for this airplane, historic, i would not have done it normally, blind people reading such articles is just too rare (i think). here it was because visually ok people did not calculate correctly any more with all these commas. my personal preference is SI because, as an engineer, i like the connection of the base units with its derived units, a graph can be seen . but not everybody has the same taste, and it's ok :) --] (]) 04:34, 26 September 2023 (UTC) | |||
:I'm a screen reader user and this conversation was brought to my attention. I assume your friend was using a German ] (and screen reader) to read out the numbers. Speech synthesisers/screen readers change how they read number separators depending on which language is used. If you use a German synth to read an English page, you're asking for trouble (and vice versa). Please don't change number separators like this. ] (]) 08:33, 29 September 2023 (UTC) | |||
very cool {{ping|Graham87}} to look at this! i saw from your homepage that you use jaws as screenreader. what speech synthesiser are you using, and how happy is it with the following numbers? this one is with gaps: {{gaps|1|234|444.245|1}}, this one with american style: 1,234,444.245,1, 3 further examples using international varieties: recent german, 1.234.444,245.1, arabic separators: 1٬234٬444.245٬1 (UTF-8 taken from here: https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/U+066C), old german handwriting: 1'234'444,245'1, using quote as the arabic separator is difficult to type, especially with currencies alo written with dot, 1'234'444.245'1 (this prevailed in switzerland, and many programming languages). modern programming languages like ] also allow 1_234_444.245_1. i never used long numbers after the comma, so wrote it the first time now with separators. ] (]) 01:29, 30 September 2023 (UTC) |
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SEMI-RETIRED This user is no longer very active on Misplaced Pages.Good to see you back
For however long it may be. - ZLEA T\ 01:13, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. I'm not sure how long it'll be either. We'll see. BilCat (talk) 01:21, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- whichever - it is good to see you here... JarrahTree 01:25, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. I missed all those poor attempts at insulting me by the sock from down your way. Hilarious. It's nice to know I live free in his head. BilCat (talk) 01:34, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- Agree with JarrahTree. Welcome, be it a short or long stay. -- Euryalus (talk) 01:33, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! BilCat (talk) 01:36, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, glad to see you back. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 16:33, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. I've slowed down a little the past couple weeks, but we'll see how it goes for the next few. BilCat (talk) 00:11, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oi. Too funny. Yah, we are all here. Still beny (talk) 05:19, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. I've slowed down a little the past couple weeks, but we'll see how it goes for the next few. BilCat (talk) 00:11, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, glad to see you back. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 16:33, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! BilCat (talk) 01:36, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- whichever - it is good to see you here... JarrahTree 01:25, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
Yes! You were one of my Wiki mentors! Glade to see you! Tfdavisatsnetnet (talk) 03:14, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- whatever - here there or whereever!!! JarrahTree 11:50, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- Welcome semi-back.Acroterion (talk) 13:20, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
Sikorsky S-72
If it’s not proper to link the Sikorsky S-72’s emergency extraction system to ejection seat, a brief explanation of the difference on the page would be nice. RickyCourtney (talk) 03:50, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
Oh this is rather good ...
So nicely put! Cheers DBaK (talk) 10:56, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. Know-it-all IPs rub me the wrong way. BilCat (talk) 00:01, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
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Royal Canadian Air Force
Looks like that IP has been blocked. BTW, thanks for the thanks, and welcome back. Hope you can stay. BC talk to me 22:31, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- No problem. I'm still mostly retired, but I'm watchlisting close to a thousand pages. I had nearly 30,000 when I retired last year. BilCat (talk) 09:26, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for anything you can do BilCat! -Fnlayson (talk) 19:33, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
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B-2 Spirit
I could not find a source that called it the "Stealth Bomber" instead of the B-2 Spirit as a name, rather than a descriptor.
Do you know what source referred to it as such, especially capitalized? FinnSoThin (talk) 23:34, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- I searched for "B-2 stealth bomber", and found many mentions, both capitalized and not, from a wide variety of sources. But this is better discussed on the article's talk page so that others can participate. BilCat (talk) 00:18, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
"Redirected here"
Hey Bill - just noting that ~~its Northrop Grumman Model 400 that redirects to T-X program, not Scaled Composites Model 400 Swift which, as an aircraft that was actually built and flown, really should have its own page already! - The Bushranger One ping only 08:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- HUh, how did I miss that the latter did redirect? Bah, I need more caffiene! - The Bushranger One ping only 08:21, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Because I just created it, and tagged it as a Redirect with Possibilities. I wish we could still link those, but that seems to be the way things are done now. Red links are no longer considered a good thing like they used to be, at least in practice. BilCat (talk) 08:40, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- And yeah, we should have an article on it, but I'm not sure it would survive an AFD. That's the was things go now too. Misplaced Pages's been around long enough, and is many people's first stop for info. I think it high time we relaxed notability to include local only sources. BilCat (talk) 08:46, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure it would, if only I had the time to scratch up the sources. It does seem a lot of grognards have too much time on their hands and consider GNG to be less "general" and more "strict" though! - The Bushranger One ping only 08:49, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yup. I'm mostly active again on American aircraft articles, but still semi-retired on the rest of Misplaced Pages. Still too many stupid things going on Misplaced Pages for me to unretire completely. BilCat (talk) 08:54, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- hey bil glad to see your semi back best regards, Paytonisboss (talk) 06:28, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yup. I'm mostly active again on American aircraft articles, but still semi-retired on the rest of Misplaced Pages. Still too many stupid things going on Misplaced Pages for me to unretire completely. BilCat (talk) 08:54, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure it would, if only I had the time to scratch up the sources. It does seem a lot of grognards have too much time on their hands and consider GNG to be less "general" and more "strict" though! - The Bushranger One ping only 08:49, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- And yeah, we should have an article on it, but I'm not sure it would survive an AFD. That's the was things go now too. Misplaced Pages's been around long enough, and is many people's first stop for info. I think it high time we relaxed notability to include local only sources. BilCat (talk) 08:46, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
hi i didn't think a barn-star was needed for this but i wanted to say thanks for helping me during my time on Misplaced Pages
best regards, Paytonisboss (talk) 04:21, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
SR
I'm not sure EEng agrees, but thanx, - FlightTime (open channel) 23:20, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, BilCat, have you any idea what was going on here ? I want to be clear I'm not accusing you of anything, but the interaction is just so weird. Maybe he just wishes he were you? EEng 00:59, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Stop, I made a mistake, I'm who I am, chill out. Leave BilCat of of it, danm. - FlightTime (open channel) 01:04, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- @EEng:How in the hell do you get, "me whishing" anytghing, I'm talking to you, and I'm FlightTime. Quit trying to confuse the issue "I" brought to You UFB - FlightTime (open channel) 01:08, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry BilCat. - FlightTime (open channel) 01:11, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
GE90
I just changed some of the info to be more consistent with the Boeing 777. For instance the 777-300 was never ordered with the GE90, so that combination was never certified with the FAA. Also, the production 777F is often more specifically referred to as the 777-200LRF, in order to distinguish it from the 777-300ERSF conversion. 24.206.65.142 (talk) 03:27, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
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