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== This article and news reporting is so disgustingly biased in favour of muslims that it isn't funny. == |
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I would like to begin by stating that I am not Burmese nor do I have any love for the Burmese government. In fact I myself am a desi indian guy. But I know bias when I see it. |
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The Rohingya crisis has been only focused on in one side of the issue by international media. Violence against Rohingyas by the Burmese military is well documented, but where is the documentation of the fact that Rohingya had no writing or history on them in Rakhine state prior to the late 20th/21st century, speak a "language" that is completely mutually intelligible with the Bengali of Chittagong, have birth rates that go from 4 up to 9 CHILDREN per mother, up to QUADRUPLE that of the indigenous Rakhine and well into the range of population replacement level and substantial gene-shift as seen in historical populations according to historical anthropology, and practice an extremely orthodox and intolerant strain of islam, which involves the practice of jihad through increasing the ummah and taking power from Non-Muslims? Also, where is the reporting of the Rohingya/Bengali jihads on Rakhine villages, which served as the impetus for the violent military backlash? |
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What about nearby states in North East india? What about the illegal mass migrations over the Bengali border into NE-India (I guess they need their own special ethnic name like the Rohingyas, right? Want to give them one? Since they can't call themselves '''Bengali''' anymore, huh?), and subsequent attacks by muslim bengali migrants on indigenous asian looking Indian tribes and villages in Tripura, Nagaland, Manipur, Mizoram, Meghalaya etc, to the point where local civil protection militias have been set up to protect the indigenous people from '''Bengali''' muslim interlopers?? And literally EVERY educated person in India, and EVERY PERSON in N-East India knows about this? Where are the op-ed interviews for these people, mm? Where are the news reports about these? BIAS. |
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Hell, what about Bengali muslim jamaat and salafi migrations WITHIN Bangladesh, in the Chittagong Hills where many people are of more asian appearance than your average Bengali, and don't practice islam, instead practicing buddhism, Hinduism and traditional religions? Bengali Jihadist raiders run onto their farms with guns and chase them out at gunpoint, raping and killing, and then steal their lands!! And they justify it by saying they are waging jihad against the kuffar, and it doesn't matter about the specifics, if you're an asian-looking muslim, KUFFAR, if you're an asian-looking non-muslim, KUFFAR, if you're a non-asian non-muslim, KUFFAR, hell even if you're a non-asian looking muslim, nobody will know we stole your land up here in the hills so KUFFAR!!!! Indigenous rights groups and writers in the Chittagong hill tracts have gone underground and had to censor themselves because Jihadis actively HUNT and MURDER them in the STREET for reporting on this shit (google murder of bloggers bangladesh), but nooo none of this gets the attention of the international press quite like the poor oppressed {{strikethrough|Bengali invaders}} Rohingyas, who are cut of the same cloth as these bastards! BIAS. |
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Muslim groups are very well connected, and are very machiavellian and natalistic. I have seen and met muslims from Jihadis to racial supremacists who stress the need in a world with organisations like the UN to "portray themselves as victims" in a bipartisan conflict to the international community, in order to win control of places over other peoples and cultures they hate and despise - perfect examples being '''Kosovo''' and '''Somalia'''. The Rohingya are absolutely not above this - and were known to have connections to jihadist groups in South Asia and the Middle East, and also in Bangladesh, and this international fetishism of them while ignoring the other side of the story, that they have attacked Rakhine villages, that they are NOT indigenous to Burma NOR it's cultures neither historically - culturally - religiously - genetically, that they present a REAL threat to the future of a Rakhine culture in Rakhine state because of their ridiculously high birth rates, their extreme dom-cultural (domination culture) islamic beliefs, their refusal to integrate into Rakhine society and in fact outright hatred of it, and the fact that Bengali migrants are doing the SAME THING to other similar locations throughout North-East India and WITHIN Bangladesh inside the Chittagong Hill tracts! - pushes a non NPOV claptrap. |
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] (]) 02:23, 4 March 2018 (UTC) |
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::Where are your sources for any of this? It's laughable that you're trying to portray this article as biased by going on a hateful & misinformed diatribe against the Rohingya. Also, keep Misplaced Pages guidelines such as ], ], ], and ] in mind. |
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::] (]) 19:49, 12 June 2018 (UTC) |
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::@] ''Misplaced Pages'' is not a forum for racist, religionist, or other bigoted diatribes. Your vulgarity and racial/religous slurs are a direct violation of numerous ''Misplaced Pages'' rules, as noted clearly by the previous poster. And it is inappropriate to produce such long socio-political harangues, here, ss well. I very strongly encourage you to withdraw this post, immediately, so that it does not become necessary to refer this for more substantial ''Misplaced Pages'' community action. |
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::~ ] (]) 10:38, 19 July 2018 (UTC) |
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== the so called permanent peoples tribunal == |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 1 May 2023 == |
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The "permanent peoples tribunal" ass referenced in the article is a self-declared court that is without ANY legal standing. It is run by an NGO, it is NOT "UN-backed" as the article claims, and its "proceedings" are shames by any legal standard. Among other absurdities it delivers "verdicts" without even once hearing the accused. |
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They are not aryan they are Sanskrit stop lieing to those people were they not apart of a sultanate at one time with khan relations the others were called asiatic then Indonesian Giving impression that they are bad I think there's use to be what they called a Ba'al towards Bulgaria then bao wolf towards Germany Belgium then bao means something different in Asian chineses language but towards Lebanon it become Allah Sudan Baha'i also means something different Babai which goes to wards Romania then to wards the other way they Romani gypsie so I guess it would be blessing be to be in a house of a lord meaning those that would accept them so who was will to acceptthem those are all different so called lords Europe ] (]) 00:22, 1 May 2023 (UTC) |
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It is a bunch of NGO busybodies making themselves sound important. |
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The single secondary sources given does not even support the claims attributed to it. I also doubt it qualifies as a reliable under Misplaced Pages policies. |
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I will therefore remove the assorted paragraph. ] (]) 17:54, 8 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:Incoherent rant. Not entertaining. <big>]]</big> 02:40, 1 May 2023 (UTC) |
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== Archiving links == |
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A good reference is the CIA report that estimates that between 1971 to 1983 no less than 600,000 Bangladeshi nationals from that country entered Assam, while 300,000 entered Meghalaya and about 200,000 entered Tripura. And we are supposed to believe that non entered Burma! <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 10:41, 17 August 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:that may or may not be a good reference - if you had actually provided it. So we just have to take your word for it. And we don't. ] (]) 15:31, 18 August 2018 (UTC) |
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There are many hyperlinks and URLs in the references section that do not have an archival link. Other editors, please make sure to add archive links from either Wayback Machine or Ghostarchive to all hyperlinks and URLs. It would extremely help in historical preservation and research. ] (]) 17:00, 23 March 2024 (UTC) |
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== Rohingya population in the USA == |
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A possible reference for news and background articles -- from most major English-language media throughout the U.S., U.K, Australia, Canada, and the conflict zone -- the '''''''''' appears to post links to (and some abstracts of, or excerpts from) almost all the major English-language news stories on the Rohingya, since the current crisis began in August 2017 -- as well as numerous older stories. It claims to be "updated at least weekly." |
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All sources say 12,000 people, with some populations given for individual cities etc. Milwaukee and Chicago seen to have the leading populations. |
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The articles listed, and linked to, are from such basic reference sources -- across the political spectrum -- as the ], ], ], ''],'' '']'' ''],'' the broadcast networks ], CBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, ], ], and the leading newspapers in the conflict region (Bangladesh, India, Thailand, Australia), the U.S. and Canada (it generally avoids the more partisan, inflammatory or censored sources such as Myanmar or Arab media, though they're cited occasionally). |
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https://rli.blogs.sas.ac.uk/2022/03/10/rohingya-in-america-the-challenge-of-language-and-culture/ |
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It also contains some background references on the Rohingya, from major media, academic, institutional, organizational and government sources (particularly the ]), as well as numerous official government and NGO statements and reports (e.g.: U.S. State Dept., ], ], etc.). |
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https://www.zakat.org/how-two-midwest-cities-are-handling-rohingya-resettlement ] (]) 19:34, 13 July 2024 (UTC) |
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Although it appears to be very Rohingya-sensitive (it is apparently edited by a U.S. civil rights activist and former journalist/scholar), it also lists numerous articles reporting the denials, arguments and statements by the Myanmar government, and others largely hostile to the Rohingya. Seems fairly objective, and consistent with most current scholarship on the Rohingya. Online at: '''''''''' |
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:~ ] (]) 11:14, 19 July 2018 (UTC) |
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They are not aryan they are Sanskrit stop lieing to those people were they not apart of a sultanate at one time with khan relations the others were called asiatic then Indonesian Giving impression that they are bad I think there's use to be what they called a Ba'al towards Bulgaria then bao wolf towards Germany Belgium then bao means something different in Asian chineses language but towards Lebanon it become Allah Sudan Baha'i also means something different Babai which goes to wards Romania then to wards the other way they Romani gypsie so I guess it would be blessing be to be in a house of a lord meaning those that would accept them so who was will to acceptthem those are all different so called lords Europe 154.20.52.238 (talk) 00:22, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
There are many hyperlinks and URLs in the references section that do not have an archival link. Other editors, please make sure to add archive links from either Wayback Machine or Ghostarchive to all hyperlinks and URLs. It would extremely help in historical preservation and research. Battlesnake1 (talk) 17:00, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
All sources say 12,000 people, with some populations given for individual cities etc. Milwaukee and Chicago seen to have the leading populations.