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== The Idea of a Section on Future Plans Is Loco ==

The notion of having a section on "Future Plans" is a loco one - because this is supposed to be an encyclopedia of verifiable knowledge of things and events - and as such, "Future Plans" are completely irrelavent here, since the future is always in a state of change / unpredictability. Plans are always evanescent.<br>For example, Richard Nixon's plans for the rest of his second term as the President of the United States are irrelevant, and aren't documented here, since those plans never came to pass. They didn't have a chance, since Nixon resigned from the Presidency in 1974, well-before the end of his term.] (]) 18:47, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

== Section about work with other artists? ==

By this I mean backing vocals and duets. Generally, I wouldn't feel it necessary to include a section about this, but because Stevie has recorded with so many other musicians - ], ] and ] to name a few, surely it would be informative to include a section about this? Any thoughts? --] (]) 23:36, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== Side Note: Excessive bias within the article ==

Whoever has wrote this article (particularly when discussing the later years of Stevie Nicks' career) has added so much personal opinion it becomes a little hard to read. This article could be extremely informative, as there is so much documented on Nicks' life and work, but instead it's filled with comments from Misplaced Pages such as "citation needed" and "original research?". For example, it may be obvious to a fan when listening to Nicks' work that her voice has gained a nasal quality, lost some range etc. but how is that relevant? It's clear if you listen to her songs. Surely someone could rewrite parts of this article, with the appropriate media reports etc., and create a very good article that informs the reader in an impartial style, and is not biased to the opinions of fans or critics? --] (]) 00:53, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
:] and fix the problems you have identified. You have the ability to fix problems yourself. ] (]) 01:57, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

:Well i still haven't heard her later stuff, so no i didn't get to notice the change in her voice, so such stuff is informative to me. --] (]) 22:27, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

== Vocal Range ==


==Stupid hatnote==
Just as HER article does for Christine McVie, this article says Stevie's vocal range is "contralto." Unless contralto covers a great deal of ground, they can't both be contraltos. Chrissy's voice is very different and her range seems to be centered at a different point. ] (]) 22:32, 4 October 2009 (UTC)Will in New Haven] (]) 22:32, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Nobody in the known universe is going to confuse one of the most iconic singers in popular music history with an obscure album track by a barely known band. Reeks of self-promotion. ] (]) 04:11, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
:Let's reel in the rhetoric a bit.
:You don't think we should have the hatnote. That does not make it "stupid".
:As a Fleetwood Mac fan for several decades who has seen them in concert several times and Nicks solo once, I'd say "one of the most iconic singers in popular music history" is an exaggeration.
:"Self-promotion"? I guess it's ''possible'' {{u|Jax 0677}} created an account in 2008, edited for 4 years, became part of a Texas band in 2012, waited for the band's 6th album 8 years later and decided to use his 12 years of editing Misplaced Pages to back up the weakest possible self-promotion I can think of in 2020. Then again, it's more likely you just disagree with the hatnote.
:IMO, per ], "Mention other topics and articles only if there is a reasonable possibility of a reader arriving at the article either by mistake or with another topic in mind." It seems unlikely that a non-single and otherwise non-notable track from an album with no singles (does "Entertainment One Music" have A&R reps?) from a weakly notable band, it's unlikely someone came to Misplaced Pages looking for details on the song.
:Additionally, the edit warring to remove the hatnote is absurd. The hatnote sat there for a month before an IP decided it was somehow "spam". They were reverted. That would be a good time to ] the issue. Instead, the IP removed it again. Another good time to discuss the issue... FlightTime reverted again, asking for discussion. Then we got the above, and {{u|Escape Orbit}} removing it again.
:Seriously. - <span style="color:#D70270;background-color:white;">Sum</span><span style="color:#734F96;background-color:white;">mer</span><span style="color:#0038A8;background-color:white;">PhD</span><sup>]</sup> 03:38, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
::Sorry, I wasn't aware there had been edit warring about this, but I stand by my edit. Very few people are going to come to Misplaced Pages looking for this album track. The album track is not of any significant notability, otherwise it would have an article of its own. No-one is going confuse the album article with the BLP, or expect to find an article on the album track in preference to the BLP. I don't believe the fact it sat there for a mere month to be a good reason for it being kept any longer. I'm not going to speculate on why it was added, but the editor who added it was misguided.
::I am, of course, happy to be reverted if anyone can put a good case why it should be there. But I doubt it, and can't image why anyone would think it needs discussed. --] <sup>]</sup> 08:55, 23 July 2020 (UTC)


== Mystical stage persona ==
:There are a couple of citations linked from Stevie's article that back up the claim that her vocal range is contralto. If you can find a reliable source that says what Christine's vocal range is, you can add it to the ] article. For now, I have added a "citation needed" flag to the Christine McVie article.- <b><span style="color:blue">carolyn</span><span style="color:green"><sup>81</sup></span></b> (] &bull; ]) 23:37, 4 October 2009 (UTC)


What is a "mystical stage persona"? The lede says she has one, but there seems to be nothing in the article to support it. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 20:27, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
-- Contralto does not just regard range, but also tone of voice and texture. Both Christine and Stevie seem to be more comfortable singing lower notes, and both of their voices have a rich, deep tone associated with contraltos. However, Christine has a wider range than Stevie. ] (]) 07:29, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


:I don't think that kind of wording belongs in an encyclopedia. Besides, the cited source is from a blog on her own website. I will remove it. /VFD ] (]) 12:56, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
== Yahoo! interview ==


:Nicks ], who in turn says Nicks supports him. The connection ]. Is this notable here, and how could it be written in this article? ] (]) 21:12, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
Where's this Yahoo! interview? Was it in Yahoo! magazine or online? ] (]) 13:40, 14 November 2009 (UTC)


== 2023 concerts with Billy Joel ==
== Lucrezia Santini ==


Below is a quote from the tour section in the article:
Blackbird, Rhiannon, Midnight Special video performance mystical magical audience difficult to find, and well worth it. Haven't checked Buffy buster or bookstores, but had wondered about all the productions... Ms. Nicks seems like more of a Shaman to me, but languages and translations evolve, according to the voice of the people... peace. J.F.K., Nixon, Patton, Poe. starcharms ****] (]) 20:27, 14 November 2009 (UTC)


"In 2023, she and Billy Joel will perform a series of concerts across the United States".
== A New Album and Other Projects: 2010 ???? ==


It is 2024 now, either the concerts happened or they didn't. Either way it is out of date. (] (]) 21:03, 22 March 2024 (UTC))
This section is just a rambling sentence about various twitter updates. This is a great article, needs some work, but this section is just horrible !!! <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 02:45, 24 June 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Well fix it... <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 05:32, 16 October 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== The composer/songwriter == == Stevie Nicks ==


'''She also playes the piano.''' ] (]) 13:24, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
Hey peeps in the know i'd like to find in this article some insight on how she comes up with songs : is she mostly a lyricist, or a composer ? I suppose both, since her songs are not attributed to anyone else, that i noticed. So then, does she start off with the lyrics and put music to it, like Elton John does with the lyrics provided to him, or the other way around ? Does she play an instrument, although not on stage ? If not, then how does she come up with the full orchestration of her melody ? I mean i don't wonder so much the same concerning Christine McVie or Lindsey Buckingham, since they are both instrumentalists. --] (]) 22:39, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
:Generally, she would compose lyrics while forming rudimentary chords and melodies on a piano, or occasionally a guitar. For Fleetwood Mac songs, these demos were fleshed out by Buckingham, with occasional input from Christine McVie. Nicks got final say in how the songs were to sound, but that sound was generally created by Buckingham, though he was never credited as a co-writer. Her solo stuff was usually fleshed out by her co-writers or back-up musicians. ] (]) 00:28, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks. That's very much what i imagined, and it makes complete sense. I'll have to check out her solo stuff at some point. Such information would do well in the article body (if sourced, of course). --] (]) 18:31, 24 October 2010 (UTC)


== Vandalism == == Recommendation ==


Someone redirected this article to Goat and I reverted it, but now it says REDIRECT Goat at the top of the page and I'm not entirely sure how to remove that, as it doesn't show up in the source. Sorry about that. ] (]) 09:14, 9 July 2011 (UTC) The article's lead section appears to be overly descriptive of her accomplishments rather than providing a broad overview of Nicks' life and career. The extensive coverage of her awards distracts from the introduction of some of the article's other subtopics, like her artistry and personal life. ] (]) 12:43, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
:Fixed the goat issue. That was strange. ] (]) 09:16, 9 July 2011 (UTC)


== A younger photo request == == Touring with Joe Walsh ==


The following sentence:
1979 was 33 years ago at this writing. Is it possible to include a photo of her from this era? She is, after all, a frontwoman, and her image is important. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 14:25, 8 June 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


''Nicks toured with Walsh in 1984.''
:I found some freely licensed ones I could upload if everyone is okay with it...--] (]) 04:58, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
::Excellent. Any more? -- <strong>]</strong>/<small>]</small> 10:35, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
:::There actually are a few more. I uploaded a couple more recent ones to Wikimedia Commons, as well as a couple more from the 70s era. I'll add a couple more to the bio.--] (]) 04:43, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
::::Many thanks. -- <strong>]</strong>/<small>]</small> 08:25, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
:::::You know that "I found some freely licensed" means: you found some files that anyone can reuse anywhere, anytime for every purpose including money making purposes? The files you found are actually published under a Creative Commons license with a non-commercial restriction. This means: the files you found are not freely license. The license you added on Wikimedia Commons was wrong, its not ] as you say but ]. --] (]) 12:28, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
::::::Actually, I was given permission by the photographer to post them. I'll ask him to change the license...I thought it was under the freely shared.--] (]) 05:44, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
::::::::One picture was reviewed and accepted. I'll post it to the page. Thanks for taking the time to try to add photos. The licenses for these things can be confusing. --] (]) 23:08, 5 November 2012 (UTC)


is inaccurate. The tour with Walsh as opening act was in 1983, not 1984. See Waddy Wachtel’s website for confirmation (Wachtel was the lead guitarist on the tour).
== She spent her adolescence listening to Janis Joplin records? ==


Joplin's first LP, with Big Brother and the Holding Company, came out when she was 19. We can quibble over the definition of "adolescence", but about 95% of hers was spent doing something other than listening to Janis Joplin records, which didn't exist yet. ] (]) 18:00, 21 October 2013 (UTC) http://waddywachtelinfo.com/StevieNicks3.html ] (]) 17:31, 21 October 2024 (UTC)


what is Stevie Nicks husband name and what does he look like? ] (]) 11:38, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
:It now reads thus:<br />She spent her adolescence playing records constantly, and existing in her "own little musical world".<ref name="nicksfix1980"/><ref name="nicksfix1997"/><ref>{{cite news |url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-ragogna/emin-your-dreamsem-docume_b_1937997.html |title= In Your Dreams Documentary Premieres at Hampton's: Chatting With Stevie Nicks|work=Huffington Post |author=Mike Ragogna |year=2012 |accessdate=July 8, 2013}}</ref> She joined her first band, "The Changing Times", while attending ] in Arcadia, California.<ref>FleetwoodMac.net: Stevie Nicks</ref><br /><strong>— &#124; ] &#124; <small>]</small> &#124;</strong> — 18:26, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
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Stupid hatnote

Nobody in the known universe is going to confuse one of the most iconic singers in popular music history with an obscure album track by a barely known band. Reeks of self-promotion. 2A02:C7F:8F1A:F700:53:B8E6:7522:7E49 (talk) 04:11, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Let's reel in the rhetoric a bit.
You don't think we should have the hatnote. That does not make it "stupid".
As a Fleetwood Mac fan for several decades who has seen them in concert several times and Nicks solo once, I'd say "one of the most iconic singers in popular music history" is an exaggeration.
"Self-promotion"? I guess it's possible Jax 0677 created an account in 2008, edited for 4 years, became part of a Texas band in 2012, waited for the band's 6th album 8 years later and decided to use his 12 years of editing Misplaced Pages to back up the weakest possible self-promotion I can think of in 2020. Then again, it's more likely you just disagree with the hatnote.
IMO, per WP:HNR, "Mention other topics and articles only if there is a reasonable possibility of a reader arriving at the article either by mistake or with another topic in mind." It seems unlikely that a non-single and otherwise non-notable track from an album with no singles (does "Entertainment One Music" have A&R reps?) from a weakly notable band, it's unlikely someone came to Misplaced Pages looking for details on the song.
Additionally, the edit warring to remove the hatnote is absurd. The hatnote sat there for a month before an IP decided it was somehow "spam". They were reverted. That would be a good time to discuss the issue. Instead, the IP removed it again. Another good time to discuss the issue... FlightTime reverted again, asking for discussion. Then we got the above, and Escape Orbit removing it again.
Seriously. - SummerPhD 03:38, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
Sorry, I wasn't aware there had been edit warring about this, but I stand by my edit. Very few people are going to come to Misplaced Pages looking for this album track. The album track is not of any significant notability, otherwise it would have an article of its own. No-one is going confuse the album article with the BLP, or expect to find an article on the album track in preference to the BLP. I don't believe the fact it sat there for a mere month to be a good reason for it being kept any longer. I'm not going to speculate on why it was added, but the editor who added it was misguided.
I am, of course, happy to be reverted if anyone can put a good case why it should be there. But I doubt it, and can't image why anyone would think it needs discussed. --Escape Orbit 08:55, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Mystical stage persona

What is a "mystical stage persona"? The lede says she has one, but there seems to be nothing in the article to support it. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:27, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

I don't think that kind of wording belongs in an encyclopedia. Besides, the cited source is from a blog on her own website. I will remove it. /VFD Very Fantastic Dude (talk) 12:56, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
Nicks says "muse" about Harry Styles, who in turn says Nicks supports him. The connection was found Notable there. Is this notable here, and how could it be written in this article? TGCP (talk) 21:12, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

2023 concerts with Billy Joel

Below is a quote from the tour section in the article:

"In 2023, she and Billy Joel will perform a series of concerts across the United States".

It is 2024 now, either the concerts happened or they didn't. Either way it is out of date. (Fran Bosh (talk) 21:03, 22 March 2024 (UTC))

Stevie Nicks

She also playes the piano. 2601:243:2181:1AC0:5F0:AB77:8E6:24D7 (talk) 13:24, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Recommendation

The article's lead section appears to be overly descriptive of her accomplishments rather than providing a broad overview of Nicks' life and career. The extensive coverage of her awards distracts from the introduction of some of the article's other subtopics, like her artistry and personal life. Ramblinman1 (talk) 12:43, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Touring with Joe Walsh

The following sentence:

Nicks toured with Walsh in 1984.

is inaccurate. The tour with Walsh as opening act was in 1983, not 1984. See Waddy Wachtel’s website for confirmation (Wachtel was the lead guitarist on the tour).

http://waddywachtelinfo.com/StevieNicks3.html 198.102.58.250 (talk) 17:31, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

what is Stevie Nicks husband name and what does he look like? 2600:6C54:7E00:1AC7:E438:698B:E0AC:F7E5 (talk) 11:38, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

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