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| | quote = English-language Misplaced Pages is documenting the crisis, too: Fifty-eight editors have joined the English-language WikiProject Ukraine group, and thousands of others are contributing to their projects. They’ve tallied the journalists killed in Russia, built a thorough daily timeline, and debated whether the mass graves in the Ukrainian city of Izium should be called a “massacre.” (After a few days and 8,000 words, they reached no consensus.) | | quote = English-language Misplaced Pages is documenting the crisis, too: Fifty-eight editors have joined the English-language WikiProject Ukraine group, and thousands of others are contributing to their projects. They’ve tallied the journalists killed in Russia, built a thorough daily timeline, and debated whether the mass graves in the Ukrainian city of Izium should be called a “massacre.” (After a few days and 8,000 words, they reached no consensus.) | ||
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| == Draft:Yury Yuriyovich Shikula == | |||
| == Wolfsangel or Idea of a Nation == | |||
| What is this WikiProject's opinion on the naming of a symbol used in several far-right Ukrainian political groups' logos? Is the symbol seen at eg. ] or ] a Wolfsangel or a similar but unrelated symbol named "Idea of a Nation"? This has been the topic of dozens of disputes and edit wars, and I think at this point there should be a real consensus about this. | |||
| The resemblance is obvious, and foreign sources like say it's a Wolfsangel. It has also been used as a symbol by unquestionably neo-Nazi groups like ]. On the other hand, the Azov brigade itself says it's simply a monogram created by putting the letters I and N together. | |||
| Andreas Umland the Wolfsangel itself is not considered a fascist symbol in Ukraine. If so, is it still considered distinct from the NI-symbol used by the Azov brigade and such? And if they are considered separate symbols, do they still have the same connotation? Should the Misplaced Pages articles that include the symbol(s) be changed to reflect this cultural difference? This is not something I know much about, so I decided to ask here before starting an RfC. ] (]) 09:13, 28 August 2023 (UTC) | |||
| :I suggest you discuss specific potentially controversial changes to article text where you intend to make them. Trying to create an official Wiki consensus on a controversial topic could lead to a lot of ] and very little progress in building the encyclopedia. —''] ].'' 16:34, 28 August 2023 (UTC) | |||
| :By the way, the topic falls under ], and non-extended-confirmed users are not permitted to make edits in articles or discussions on it, with a few exceptions. —''] ].'' 16:37, 28 August 2023 (UTC) | |||
| ::I posted here and not in an article talk because the issue is relevant to several different articles. What do you mean by ], if I may ask? Misplaced Pages has discussions like this all the time, right? | |||
| ::Anyway, I won't discuss the Wolfsangel thing anymore. Thanks for alerting me to the GS. ] (]) 10:57, 29 August 2023 (UTC) | |||
| :::I meant that this could launch a huge, wide-ranging discussion that consumes a lot of energy and generates a lot of heat, but doesn’t necessarily lead directly to any improvement in articles’ text. Already there’s a single comment below that addresses the naming of all similar symbols in the full context of history rather than even in the scope of the articles you mentioned, and gets us no closer to any specific text changes. Even if the scope is several articles, better to quote the text from them that would be affected, than to ask for the extremely broad and open “this WikiProject's opinion on the naming of a symbol.” —''] ].'' 19:53, 29 August 2023 (UTC) | |||
| :All reliable sources are calling it Wolfsangel, pointing out obvious WW2 and Nazi connotations, the "Idea of Nation" version emerged much later, and it's accepted basically only by the sources related to Azov ] (]) 17:23, 28 August 2023 (UTC) | |||
| ::Are you implying Andreas Umland is "related to Azov"? Because I'm pretty sure ] applies to talk pages too. ] (]) 23:01, 29 August 2023 (UTC) | |||
| == Requested move at ] == | |||
| ] There is a requested move discussion at ] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. —usernamekiran ] 06:51, 5 September 2023 (UTC) | |||
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| ] There is a requested move discussion at ] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ] (] • ]) 15:01, 5 September 2023 (UTC) | |||
| == FoP in Ukraine and the war == | |||
| I was just thinking that while Russia is trying to destroy Ukrainian culture etc. through military means, we help due to combination of ] and bad Ukrainian law (no freedom of panorama). See ]. I know Ukrainian gov't is busy, well, fightign for survival and such, but maybe it is also good time to try to encourage them to change this law so we can help preserve Ukrainian cultural heritage? Is there anyone here who could reach out to Ukranian Wikimedia chapter and suggest this may be time to do this? <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</sub> 02:30, 6 September 2023 (UTC) | |||
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| ] There is a requested move discussion at ] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. <b><span style="background:#444;padding:2px 12px;font-size:12px"><span style="color:#FC0">❯❯❯</span>]]</span></b> 16:25, 7 September 2023 (UTC) | |||
| ], I came across this draft a few days ago in a rather incomplete state and have made some edits. However, as a non-Ukrainian speaker, it is challenging for me to fully assess the accuracy, especially regarding the title: is it Yury Yuriyovich Shikula or Yuriy Yuriyovych Shykula. Also, I removed some content from the awards section, as it appeared to pertain to a different individual with the same name. Could someone please review this draft for accuracy? I am particularly curious about this draft as it seems potentially notable. ] (]) 14:44, 26 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Input needed at ] == | |||
| ⚫ | :I am not an Ukrainian speaker, but I think he is Yuriy Yuriovych Shykula. We just use ]. ] (]) 17:00, 26 November 2024 (UTC) | ||
| There is currently a dispute about whether verifiable references to ], ], ] (and possibly others) calling the language ''Little Russian'' before the 1860s should be included in the article, or excluded. ] (]) 16:46, 9 September 2023 (UTC) | |||
| == Ukraine-related maps by User:Роман Днепр == | |||
| == Women in Green's 5th Edit-a-thon == | |||
| ] (not active for over a year and a half when it comes to his global account) has created at least some maps with his personal ex libris in the lower right corner, and they are strewn across various pages, including important ones; some examples: , , , , , . I think that below is a list of all of his uploads, but I haven't been seriously involved in Misplaced Pages for a long time, so I might be missing something: . Maybe someone here could find some extra time to try and go through it and correct the images affected. | |||
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| Hello WikiProject Ukraine: | |||
| Do you think any disciplinary measures could be taken against the user? | |||
| ''']''' is holding a ''' month-long ]'''!<br /><br /> | |||
| Running from October 1 to 31, 2023, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) edit-a-thon event with the theme '''Around the World in 31 Days'''! All experience levels welcome. Never worked on a GA project before? We'll teach you how to get started. Or maybe you're an old hand at GAs – we'd love to have you involved! Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to women and women's works (e.g., books, films) during the event period. We hope to collectively cover article subjects from at least '''31 countries''' (or broader international articles) by month's end. GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to earn a special WiG barnstar for their efforts. | |||
| Posting it here for lack of a better place, and WikiProject:Ukraine seems to be more active in the English version than in the Ukrainian version. ] (]) 02:52, 3 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| We hope to see you there! | |||
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| :I don't thing adding ex libris violates any rules. These images are hosted on WikiCommons so you may want to request assistance ] as well. Or you can just do it yourself :) ]<sub>]</sub> 13:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Ukrainian scientists == | |||
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| Here are some articles from the Ukrainian Misplaced Pages that might be worth translating if the topics meet English Misplaced Pages notability standards. | |||
| Is anyone able to rescue this? ] (]) 00:01, 7 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| * ], Ukrainian botanist ] | |||
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| <span style="font-family: Times;">] (] • ])</span> 16:38, 28 September 2023 (UTC) | |||
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| ] There is a requested move discussion at ] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ] ] |
] There is a requested move discussion at ] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ] (]) 17:34, 9 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
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| == Zfort == | |||
| They completed training and have been sent back to Ukraine, and I'm seeing various Russian, Ukrainian, and French reports on the brigade, but can't make sense of what's going on. The article should use the highest quality sources, such as AP and Reuters, and they have given profiles on the brigade in the past, but haven't given an update since. . . So should we wait until the highest quality sources comment on this? ] (]) 04:45, 18 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| Please help with {{la|Zfort Group}} ] (]) 08:13, 5 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
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Draft:Yury Yuriyovich Shikula
Ymblanter, I came across this draft a few days ago in a rather incomplete state and have made some edits. However, as a non-Ukrainian speaker, it is challenging for me to fully assess the accuracy, especially regarding the title: is it Yury Yuriyovich Shikula or Yuriy Yuriyovych Shykula. Also, I removed some content from the awards section, as it appeared to pertain to a different individual with the same name. Could someone please review this draft for accuracy? I am particularly curious about this draft as it seems potentially notable. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 14:44, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- I am not an Ukrainian speaker, but I think he is Yuriy Yuriovych Shykula. We just use MOS:UKR. Ymblanter (talk) 17:00, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
Ukraine-related maps by User:Роман Днепр
User:Роман Днепр (not active for over a year and a half when it comes to his global account) has created at least some maps with his personal ex libris in the lower right corner, and they are strewn across various pages, including important ones; some examples: , , , , , . I think that below is a list of all of his uploads, but I haven't been seriously involved in Misplaced Pages for a long time, so I might be missing something: . Maybe someone here could find some extra time to try and go through it and correct the images affected.
Do you think any disciplinary measures could be taken against the user?
Posting it here for lack of a better place, and WikiProject:Ukraine seems to be more active in the English version than in the Ukrainian version. KarolloraK555 (talk) 02:52, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- I don't thing adding ex libris violates any rules. These images are hosted on WikiCommons so you may want to request assistance there as well. Or you can just do it yourself :) Alaexis¿question? 13:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
Kateryna Bilokon
Is anyone able to rescue this? Bearian (talk) 00:01, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Leonid Kadeniuk#Page move due to misspelled name
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Leonid Kadeniuk#Page move due to misspelled name that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Feeglgeef (talk) 17:34, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
155th Mechanized Brigade (Ukraine)
They completed training and have been sent back to Ukraine, and I'm seeing various Russian, Ukrainian, and French reports on the brigade, but can't make sense of what's going on. The article should use the highest quality sources, such as AP and Reuters, and they have given profiles on the brigade in the past, but haven't given an update since. French source. Ukraine source. So should we wait until the highest quality sources comment on this? Harizotoh9 (talk) 04:45, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
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