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		⚫	== Semi-protected edit request on 7 May 2024 ==
	== Montage too long ==

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	{{Infobox settlement
			In Population (2021)
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	The montage of this article -- while it may be aesthetically pleasing to some -- is far too long. This issue is especially true for mobile users, who make up more than half of our readers. The current infobox montage takes up almost the entire screen when reading on an iPhone with regular font and zoom. This causes the reader to have to scroll even further through the already long settlement infobox just to get to the text of the article.

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	I propose using only one image in the infobox. While this is a proposal that is unique and perhaps wouldn't suit other cities, it is evident that the first image of Vancouver's skyline, featuring the harbour in the foreground and the city's entire skyline in the background, is by far the most iconic and identifiable image of Vancouver in the current montage. The other images in the montage are quite distinctive in comparison, and would be far better served being moved to sections of the article specific to them.
			• Rank 1st in Canada
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			• Rank 8th in Canada

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	There have been similar discussions at ] over the years about the ] infobox image. The consensus reached there was to only use one, iconic, and easily identifiable image, which is what I am proposing here (example on the right). — ] (]) 02:39, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
			https://en.wikipedia.org/List_of_the_largest_municipalities_in_Canada_by_population ] (]) 00:07, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
			:{{done}}<!-- Template:ESp --> ] (]) 09:38, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
			::Reverted: Vancouver is first in population DENSITY, which is what the infobox said and which I've now restored. Please be more careful when processing edit requests in the future. —] (]) 04:24, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
			:::I think it's still a bit unclear. When looking at it, it's hard to see if the rank refers to the density or if it's on the same level as population. Especially since city population doesn't have a rank but metro does. Maybe we could add it to the end of the population number for the city too? E.g:
			:::• City 662,248 (8th in Canada) ] (]) 10:41, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

			== Inaccurate climate data, can someone edit? ==
	:I strongly agree with this. Montages typically show things that only locals know, with no explanation of their significance, and with images too small to help the reader learn anything. (NOTE: I have said this in several other city articles. Not singling out Vancouver.) Unfortunately though, I'm not sure the single image is all that much better. It's a great pic, but all cities have skylines, many of them on water. I'm not a local (planning to visit later this year, hence my interest), so I don't know what to suggest. Could you perhaps get a shot with snow on the nearby mountains? ] (]) 03:08, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
	::Seconded. A montage is nice, but not really needed in this article as unlike New York, which has more recognizable landmarks, Vancouver or San Francisco simply offer nothing of popular consciousness. Either way, a single image is best suited for this article. ] (]) 08:23, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

			Sunshine hours for Vancouver are the following, per Environment Canada:
	:It takes a lot of scrolling to get through all this content can it be simplified? ] (]) 22:08, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
			Jan 98.5, Feb 104.1, Mar 104.0, Apr 120.8, May 148.4, Jun 133.1, Jul 283.8, Aug 280.3, Sep 260.9, Oct 158.1, Nov 94.0, Dec 80.0. Annual 1866.0. See data here:

			https://climate.weather.gc.ca/climate_normals/results_1991_2020_e.html?searchType=stnName_1991&txtStationName_1991=vancouver&searchMethod=contains&txtCentralLatMin=0&txtCentralLatSec=0&txtCentralLongMin=0&txtCentralLongSec=0&stnID=360000000&dispBack=1
	:That is fair enough, I see and accept the value in having only one skyline photograph for the infobox. Personally I am a big fan of multiple images in the skyline as I feel it is more informative of a city as it reflects the diversity of locations, attractions, history and culture of that place which in turn presents a more fully representative identity of the community in question. I think that is why it has become so common place for city articles. However even I recognize the limitations of this position and that usually 'less is more'.--] (]) 09:53, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

			Click "Normals Data" tab, scroll down to "Cloud Amount (hours with)", and see first row ("0-2"). See also https://www.canada.ca/en/environment-climate-change/services/weather-general-tools-resources/astronomy/cloud-forecast.html to make sense of what "0-2" means in this context (sunny weather). ] (]) 08:24, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
	== Requests ==
			== "]" listed at ] ==
	Someone DELETE the paragraph in sports starting with "Vancouver has an adult obesity..." Obesity stats do not belong here ] (]) 23:52, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
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			The redirect <span class="plainlinks"></span> has been listed at ] to determine whether its use and function meets the ]. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at '''{{slink\|Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 31#Hastings East (Vancouver)}}''' until a consensus is reached. <!-- Template:RFDNote --> ] (]) 21:32, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
	== BC place ==

	Under the sports and recreation heading, the image and caption of BC place is outdated. It now has the retractable roof instead of the cloth dome which was prior to 2010. ]<sup>]]</sup> 18:52, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

	== Semi-protected edit request on 5 December 2021 ==

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	I want to change the picture from the skyline to a beautiful collage of the city's landmarks I made. I just want to enlighten people of the landmarks of the city. Thank you for your answer ] (]) 19:39, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
	:] '''Not done for now:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> If you have a picture in mind that meets our ], feel free to link it here and reopen the request ] (]) 19:56, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

			== List of tall buildings in Vancouver ==
	==Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment==
	] This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between <span class="mw-formatted-date" title="2021-01-11">11 January 2021</span> and <span class="mw-formatted-date" title="2021-04-12">12 April 2021</span>. Further details are available ]. Student editor(s): ].

			This section needs to include the former Trump Hotel tower - now called the Paradox Hotel Vancouver, as the second tallest building in the city of Vancouver. Also needs inclusion of the Butterfly tower. ] (]) 02:51, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
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			There is a move discussion in progress on ] which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. <!-- Talk:Government and politics of Vancouver#Requested move 18 December 2024 crosspost --> —] 23:03, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
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	Hi! currently in the montage, there are two pictures of the Vancouver skyline, which is a little excess don't you think? And UBC and West Vancouver are not really part of the City of Vancouver. There is already a page for Metro Vancouver where those images could be placed. Could the montage please be changed so that they include the very well known landmarks such as the ones I put here? Or just straight up use this wonderful montage which is already used on simple Misplaced Pages. Thanks! ] (]) 01:52, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

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In Population (2021)

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 • Rank	1st in Canada

to:

• Rank	 8th in Canada

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/List_of_the_largest_municipalities_in_Canada_by_population Fridaynosaur (talk) 00:07, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Done Charliehdb (talk) 09:38, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Reverted: Vancouver is first in population DENSITY, which is what the infobox said and which I've now restored. Please be more careful when processing edit requests in the future. —Joeyconnick (talk) 04:24, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

I think it's still a bit unclear. When looking at it, it's hard to see if the rank refers to the density or if it's on the same level as population. Especially since city population doesn't have a rank but metro does. Maybe we could add it to the end of the population number for the city too? E.g:

• City 662,248 (8th in Canada) Espionage7240 (talk) 10:41, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Inaccurate climate data, can someone edit?

Sunshine hours for Vancouver are the following, per Environment Canada: Jan 98.5, Feb 104.1, Mar 104.0, Apr 120.8, May 148.4, Jun 133.1, Jul 283.8, Aug 280.3, Sep 260.9, Oct 158.1, Nov 94.0, Dec 80.0. Annual 1866.0. See data here:

https://climate.weather.gc.ca/climate_normals/results_1991_2020_e.html?searchType=stnName_1991&txtStationName_1991=vancouver&searchMethod=contains&txtCentralLatMin=0&txtCentralLatSec=0&txtCentralLongMin=0&txtCentralLongSec=0&stnID=360000000&dispBack=1

Click "Normals Data" tab, scroll down to "Cloud Amount (hours with)", and see first row ("0-2"). See also https://www.canada.ca/en/environment-climate-change/services/weather-general-tools-resources/astronomy/cloud-forecast.html to make sense of what "0-2" means in this context (sunny weather). 137.132.27.170 (talk) 08:24, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

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List of tall buildings in Vancouver

This section needs to include the former Trump Hotel tower - now called the Paradox Hotel Vancouver, as the second tallest building in the city of Vancouver. Also needs inclusion of the Butterfly tower. Bradross63 (talk) 02:51, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

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