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		⚫	== Semi-protected edit request on 7 May 2024 ==
	== Montage too long ==

	{{Infobox settlement
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	The montage of this article -- while it may be aesthetically pleasing to some -- is far too long. This issue is especially true for mobile users, who make up more than half of our readers. The current infobox montage takes up almost the entire screen when reading on an iPhone with regular font and zoom. This causes the reader to have to scroll even further through the already long settlement infobox just to get to the text of the article.

	I propose using only one image in the infobox. While this is a proposal that is unique and perhaps wouldn't suit other cities, it is evident that the first image of Vancouver's skyline, featuring the harbour in the foreground and the city's entire skyline in the background, is by far the most iconic and identifiable image of Vancouver in the current montage. The other images in the montage are quite distinctive in comparison, and would be far better served being moved to sections of the article specific to them.

	There have been similar discussions at ] over the years about the ] infobox image. The consensus reached there was to only use one, iconic, and easily identifiable image, which is what I am proposing here (example on the right). — ] (]) 02:39, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

	:I strongly agree with this. Montages typically show things that only locals know, with no explanation of their significance, and with images too small to help the reader learn anything. (NOTE: I have said this in several other city articles. Not singling out Vancouver.) Unfortunately though, I'm not sure the single image is all that much better. It's a great pic, but all cities have skylines, many of them on water. I'm not a local (planning to visit later this year, hence my interest), so I don't know what to suggest. Could you perhaps get a shot with snow on the nearby mountains? ] (]) 03:08, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
	::Seconded. A montage is nice, but not really needed in this article as unlike New York, which has more recognizable landmarks, Vancouver or San Francisco simply offer nothing of popular consciousness. Either way, a single image is best suited for this article. ] (]) 08:23, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

	:It takes a lot of scrolling to get through all this content can it be simplified? ] (]) 22:08, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

	:That is fair enough, I see and accept the value in having only one skyline photograph for the infobox. Personally I am a big fan of multiple images in the skyline as I feel it is more informative of a city as it reflects the diversity of locations, attractions, history and culture of that place which in turn presents a more fully representative identity of the community in question. I think that is why it has become so common place for city articles. However even I recognize the limitations of this position and that usually 'less is more'.--] (]) 09:53, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

⚫	== Semi-protected edit request on 13 May ~~2022~~ ==

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			In Population (2021)
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	Hi! currently in the montage, there are two pictures of the Vancouver skyline, which is a little excess don't you think? And UBC and West Vancouver are not really part of the City of Vancouver. There is already a page for Metro Vancouver where those images could be placed. Could the montage please be changed so that they include the very well known landmarks such as the ones I put here? Or just straight up use this wonderful montage which is already used on simple Misplaced Pages. Thanks! ] (]) 01:52, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
	:] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a ] if appropriate.<!-- Template:ESp --> This is more of a request for discussion rather than a specific edit request, so I'm seeing the template to answered. Don't let that stop discussion on which images to use in the montage. ] (]) 09:21, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
	::The previous consensus has been not to have a montage at all. Part of the reason is that they don't work well on cell phones. ] (]) 18:28, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
	:::I don't get what exactly doesn't work well on cell phones. A photo montage does not bother and does not make the mobile experience worse just because we need to scroll a bit more. In fact, the infobox itself, even without any images, is already long and requires the user to scroll to get to the text of the article the same way as with a photo montage. The solution would be a collapsible infobox on mobile devices and the user would have the option of seeing it only if they wanted to. The use of just one image in the infobox does not really solve the problem, in addition, typical images perpetuate stereotypes about cities and often show only tourist or natural points that sometimes are not even part of the city exactly. The most appropriate would be a set of photos of different areas of the city because that would be a more faithful representation. We should also have some standardization of this across all pages about locations, not a consensus decided by a few users on each article's discussion page. ] (]) 15:53, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

	'''Done:''' I added these changes in. It was very clear what they wanted to change about the article. 2 photos were not even of the Vancouver city proper.(UBC is not part of the city, and North Vancouver is a separate city). 2 other photos were also depicting the same skyline. Thanks to ] for providing links to the better images! ] (]) 23:26, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

			Change:
	== Mary Ellen Smith not first woman in prov legislature in Canada ==
			• Rank 1st in Canada
			to:
			• Rank 8th in Canada

			Source:
	Smith was third woman MLA in Canada, not the first.
			https://en.wikipedia.org/List_of_the_largest_municipalities_in_Canada_by_population ] (]) 00:07, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
	Alberta elected two in 1917 - Louise McKinney and Roberta MacAdams ] (]) 05:56, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
			:{{done}}<!-- Template:ESp --> ] (]) 09:38, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
			::Reverted: Vancouver is first in population DENSITY, which is what the infobox said and which I've now restored. Please be more careful when processing edit requests in the future. —] (]) 04:24, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
			:::I think it's still a bit unclear. When looking at it, it's hard to see if the rank refers to the density or if it's on the same level as population. Especially since city population doesn't have a rank but metro does. Maybe we could add it to the end of the population number for the city too? E.g:
			:::• City 662,248 (8th in Canada) ] (]) 10:41, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

			== Inaccurate climate data, can someone edit? ==
	== Title should be Vancouver B.C. ==

			Sunshine hours for Vancouver are the following, per Environment Canada:
	According to wikipedia "Vancouver, Washington" was incorporated in 1867. Gastown was the name of this town before it was renamed some 20 years later in 1886 to Vancouver, British Columbia according to wikipedia "Vancouver".
			Jan 98.5, Feb 104.1, Mar 104.0, Apr 120.8, May 148.4, Jun 133.1, Jul 283.8, Aug 280.3, Sep 260.9, Oct 158.1, Nov 94.0, Dec 80.0. Annual 1866.0. See data here:

			https://climate.weather.gc.ca/climate_normals/results_1991_2020_e.html?searchType=stnName_1991&txtStationName_1991=vancouver&searchMethod=contains&txtCentralLatMin=0&txtCentralLatSec=0&txtCentralLongMin=0&txtCentralLongSec=0&stnID=360000000&dispBack=1
	Let us be consistent. There are at least two Vancouvers and the reader should easily identify which one is being addressed. ] (]) 21:36, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

			Click "Normals Data" tab, scroll down to "Cloud Amount (hours with)", and see first row ("0-2"). See also https://www.canada.ca/en/environment-climate-change/services/weather-general-tools-resources/astronomy/cloud-forecast.html to make sense of what "0-2" means in this context (sunny weather). ] (]) 08:24, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
	:The name only really would cause confusion for people in the Portland area, in Seattle I've only ever heard The Washington one be specified. I think most people in the world would assume a major world city and not a large Portland suburb when they see Vancouver. ] (]) 22:25, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
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			== List of tall buildings in Vancouver ==
	There is an extensive discussion of this topic on the talk page under "Frequently Asked Questions". ] (]) 00:16, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

			This section needs to include the former Trump Hotel tower - now called the Paradox Hotel Vancouver, as the second tallest building in the city of Vancouver. Also needs inclusion of the Butterfly tower. ] (]) 02:51, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
	== The picture of Vancouver’s skyline is from 2006 ==

			== Move discussion in progress ==
	Can we get an updated skyline photo from 2023? Why are all the pictures of Vancouver from the day this wiki page was made 17 years ago? ] (]) 03:38, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

			There is a move discussion in progress on ] which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. <!-- Talk:Government and politics of Vancouver#Requested move 18 December 2024 crosspost --> —] 23:03, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
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 • Rank	1st in Canada

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• Rank	 8th in Canada

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/List_of_the_largest_municipalities_in_Canada_by_population Fridaynosaur (talk) 00:07, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Done Charliehdb (talk) 09:38, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Reverted: Vancouver is first in population DENSITY, which is what the infobox said and which I've now restored. Please be more careful when processing edit requests in the future. —Joeyconnick (talk) 04:24, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

I think it's still a bit unclear. When looking at it, it's hard to see if the rank refers to the density or if it's on the same level as population. Especially since city population doesn't have a rank but metro does. Maybe we could add it to the end of the population number for the city too? E.g:

• City 662,248 (8th in Canada) Espionage7240 (talk) 10:41, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Inaccurate climate data, can someone edit?

Sunshine hours for Vancouver are the following, per Environment Canada: Jan 98.5, Feb 104.1, Mar 104.0, Apr 120.8, May 148.4, Jun 133.1, Jul 283.8, Aug 280.3, Sep 260.9, Oct 158.1, Nov 94.0, Dec 80.0. Annual 1866.0. See data here:

https://climate.weather.gc.ca/climate_normals/results_1991_2020_e.html?searchType=stnName_1991&txtStationName_1991=vancouver&searchMethod=contains&txtCentralLatMin=0&txtCentralLatSec=0&txtCentralLongMin=0&txtCentralLongSec=0&stnID=360000000&dispBack=1

Click "Normals Data" tab, scroll down to "Cloud Amount (hours with)", and see first row ("0-2"). See also https://www.canada.ca/en/environment-climate-change/services/weather-general-tools-resources/astronomy/cloud-forecast.html to make sense of what "0-2" means in this context (sunny weather). 137.132.27.170 (talk) 08:24, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

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List of tall buildings in Vancouver

This section needs to include the former Trump Hotel tower - now called the Paradox Hotel Vancouver, as the second tallest building in the city of Vancouver. Also needs inclusion of the Butterfly tower. Bradross63 (talk) 02:51, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

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