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== Language of the article ==
== Semi-protected edit request on 26 February 2024 ==


The state of English in this article is frequently poor. I see the article contains no facility to edit, which I would gladly do but cannot, therefore I would recommend that an educated, fluent native speaker of standard English checks the article thoroughly and makes the required amendments. One silly example 'The population was composed by about 2500 people ...' What on earth is 'was composed by'? The author means, of course, 'was composed of' or 'comprised'. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 22:05, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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Please add the Austrian Empire Flag since that was the main flag of Austria-Hungary. ] (]) 20:10, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
:] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> This change was made several times in the last year and quickly reverted. See the discussion above. ] (]) 20:52, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

There was no such a thing as "main flag" in Austria neither in Hungary. They had separate flags.--] (]) 12:23, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

:Yeah. I think that the "see also ]" text is a fine ] (]) 20:31, 10 April 2024 (UTC)


== The current way the flag of Austria-Hungary is shown, as of 26/5/2024 == == The current way the flag of Austria-Hungary is shown, as of 26/5/2024 ==
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While I appreciate the dedication to accuracy (and covering all of your bases,) whoever made the edit included the "military standard" of Austria-Hungary, unless I am mistaken, when they intended to include the flag of the Emperor and Empress. Furthermore, I don't believe showing the flag of the Emperor and Empress, or a military standard if that's what they wanted to do, is needed at all. The way I personally would represent Austria-Hungary in flags accurately would be to show the black and yellow Habsburg banner, over the flag of the Kingdom of Hungary, which is over the flag of the Kingdom of Croatia-Slavonia. If you see the way the article ] showcases both the flag of Hungary and Croatia, I would love to show this in a similar manner, just with 3 flags as the law in Transleithania required the flag of Hungary and Croatia be alongside each other or otherwise represented in the Hungarian diet and House of Magnates. If that is not possible, or not preferential, I would suggest merely showing the Habsburg banner of black and yellow and the "civil" flag of Hungary, without any coat of arms, as this was a common combination of flags to be flown contemporarily in the empire. Of course I would prefer flying the 3 flags, as by Transleithanian law Croatia-Slavonia had to be represented, and thus the flag of Hungary cannot suffice. If these changes cannot be made, I just suggest reverting back to showing the "see also ]," as it worked and prevented any discourse over it for the time it existed. Edit: It appears that it has been reverted back to the "see also ]." so this talk is essentially pointless unless you want to implement the changes I suggested. ] (]) 01:19, 27 May 2024 (UTC) While I appreciate the dedication to accuracy (and covering all of your bases,) whoever made the edit included the "military standard" of Austria-Hungary, unless I am mistaken, when they intended to include the flag of the Emperor and Empress. Furthermore, I don't believe showing the flag of the Emperor and Empress, or a military standard if that's what they wanted to do, is needed at all. The way I personally would represent Austria-Hungary in flags accurately would be to show the black and yellow Habsburg banner, over the flag of the Kingdom of Hungary, which is over the flag of the Kingdom of Croatia-Slavonia. If you see the way the article ] showcases both the flag of Hungary and Croatia, I would love to show this in a similar manner, just with 3 flags as the law in Transleithania required the flag of Hungary and Croatia be alongside each other or otherwise represented in the Hungarian diet and House of Magnates. If that is not possible, or not preferential, I would suggest merely showing the Habsburg banner of black and yellow and the "civil" flag of Hungary, without any coat of arms, as this was a common combination of flags to be flown contemporarily in the empire. Of course I would prefer flying the 3 flags, as by Transleithanian law Croatia-Slavonia had to be represented, and thus the flag of Hungary cannot suffice. If these changes cannot be made, I just suggest reverting back to showing the "see also ]," as it worked and prevented any discourse over it for the time it existed. Edit: It appears that it has been reverted back to the "see also ]." so this talk is essentially pointless unless you want to implement the changes I suggested. ] (]) 01:19, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


:The rumored flag is just the civil ensign. The page can just use the Austrian Empire flag and move on. ] (]) 12:33, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
== History Beyond 1878? ==


== Multiple flags ==
Past the "beyond Lesser Germany" section, there is no history documentation, --] (]) 22:08, 31 July 2024 (UTC)


What if we add te flags of the multiple countries, such as Cisleithania, Hungary. Croatia-Slavonia, and Bosnia-Herzegovina, while keeping the page about the flags, to explain it in more detail. ] (]) 17:37, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
:In October 2023, the rest of the "History" section was moved to the "Military" section down below by a now-banned user (]). This was a mistake, in my opinion, but seems to have occasioned zero reaction or discussion on the talk page. <b><span style="color: #f33">&middot;]&middot;</span></b> 12:40, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
::I'm going to move it back, then.
::--] (]) 18:10, 17 August 2024 (UTC)


:Unnecessary clutter in the infobox. We have a separate page that's even prominently linked. <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F">]<span style="color:#fff">&nbsp;‥&nbsp;</span>]</span> 17:38, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
== Semi-protected edit request on 16 September 2024 ==


== Status of the Slovene language (1882) ==
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Wrong flag the countries just used their own separate flags. ] (]) 23:23, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
:] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a ] and provide a ] if appropriate.<!-- Template:ESp --> <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F">]<span style="color:#fff">&nbsp;‥&nbsp;</span>]</span> 00:24, 17 September 2024 (UTC)


"Beginning in 1882, there was a Slovene majority in the Diet of Carniola and in the capital ]; they replaced German with Slovene as their primary official language."
== Multiple flags ==


What if we add te flags of the multiple countries, such as Cisleithania, Hungary. Croatia-Slavonia, and Bosnia-Herzegovina, while keeping the page about the flags, to explain it in more detail. ] (]) 17:37, 5 October 2024 (UTC) Are there any sources for that? I don't seem to find anything on that, also not in other languages on Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 20:54, 1 December 2024 (UTC)


== I made a flag ==
:Unnecessary clutter in the infobox. We have a separate page that's even prominently linked. <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F">]<span style="color:#fff">&nbsp;‥&nbsp;</span>]</span> 17:38, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

I made a flag that is non-official, can I add it? ] (]) 15:02, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

:No, sorry. ] (<span style="font-variant:small-caps">]</span>) 15:04, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

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Name and terminology 4,449 4,449
History 12 50,730
Formation and background 3,040 3,040
1866–1878: beyond Lesser Germany 3,228 3,228
1878–1914: Congress of Berlin, Balkan instability and the Bosnia Crisis 7,875 7,875
1914–1918: World War I 87 29,919
Prelude 7,564 7,564
Wartime foreign policy 2,571 2,571
Theaters of operations 1,770 16,335
Homefront 4,574 4,574
Serbian front 1914–1916 1,277 1,277
Russian front 1914–1917 3,108 3,108
Italian front 1915–1918 4,009 4,009
Romanian front 1916–1917 1,597 1,597
Role of Hungary 1,476 1,476
Analysis of defeat 1,886 1,886
1918: Demise, disintegration, dissolution 6,656 6,656
Government 4,889 4,889
Demographics 10,507 18,855
Ethnic relations 8,348 8,348
Education 65 8,037
Universities in Cisleithania 4,129 4,129
Universities in Transleithania 3,843 3,843
Economy 6,825 6,825
Infrastructure 19 18,764
Telecommunications 25 5,155
Telegraph 2,382 2,382
Telephone 2,219 2,219
Electronic audio broadcasting 529 529
Rail transport 974 8,424
Railways in Transleithania 1,940 1,940
Tramway lines in the cities 3,032 3,032
Underground 2,478 2,478
Inland waterways and river regulation 959 2,537
Lower Danube and the Iron Gates 719 719
Tisza River 859 859
Shipping and ports 2,629 2,629
Military 2,526 2,526
Successor states 4,418 5,343
Habsburg banishment 925 925
Territorial legacy 23 6,848
Immediately after World War I 2,758 2,758
Present 4,067 4,067
See also 503 503
Notes 24 24
References 2,345 9,030
Sources 6,685 6,685
Further reading 6,468 15,417
World war 5,950 5,950
Primary sources 799 799
Historiography and memory 1,978 1,978
In German 222 222
External links 3,230 3,230
Total 172,018 172,018
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Flags in a nutshell: Austria-Hungary had no official flag and the consensus, established over a number of years, is not to display any flags in the infobox. Any attempt to overturn this would need to take account of the past discussions:

Language of the article

The state of English in this article is frequently poor. I see the article contains no facility to edit, which I would gladly do but cannot, therefore I would recommend that an educated, fluent native speaker of standard English checks the article thoroughly and makes the required amendments. One silly example 'The population was composed by about 2500 people ...' What on earth is 'was composed by'? The author means, of course, 'was composed of' or 'comprised'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.10.233 (talk) 22:05, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

The current way the flag of Austria-Hungary is shown, as of 26/5/2024

While I appreciate the dedication to accuracy (and covering all of your bases,) whoever made the edit included the "military standard" of Austria-Hungary, unless I am mistaken, when they intended to include the flag of the Emperor and Empress. Furthermore, I don't believe showing the flag of the Emperor and Empress, or a military standard if that's what they wanted to do, is needed at all. The way I personally would represent Austria-Hungary in flags accurately would be to show the black and yellow Habsburg banner, over the flag of the Kingdom of Hungary, which is over the flag of the Kingdom of Croatia-Slavonia. If you see the way the article Lands of the Crown of Saint Stephen showcases both the flag of Hungary and Croatia, I would love to show this in a similar manner, just with 3 flags as the law in Transleithania required the flag of Hungary and Croatia be alongside each other or otherwise represented in the Hungarian diet and House of Magnates. If that is not possible, or not preferential, I would suggest merely showing the Habsburg banner of black and yellow and the "civil" flag of Hungary, without any coat of arms, as this was a common combination of flags to be flown contemporarily in the empire. Of course I would prefer flying the 3 flags, as by Transleithanian law Croatia-Slavonia had to be represented, and thus the flag of Hungary cannot suffice. If these changes cannot be made, I just suggest reverting back to showing the "see also Flags of Austria-Hungary," as it worked and prevented any discourse over it for the time it existed. Edit: It appears that it has been reverted back to the "see also Flags of Austria-Hungary." so this talk is essentially pointless unless you want to implement the changes I suggested. Hestatus24 (talk) 01:19, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

The rumored flag is just the civil ensign. The page can just use the Austrian Empire flag and move on. Likisa (talk) 12:33, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

Multiple flags

What if we add te flags of the multiple countries, such as Cisleithania, Hungary. Croatia-Slavonia, and Bosnia-Herzegovina, while keeping the page about the flags, to explain it in more detail. Masachiku (talk) 17:37, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Unnecessary clutter in the infobox. We have a separate page that's even prominently linked. Remsense ‥  17:38, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Status of the Slovene language (1882)

"Beginning in 1882, there was a Slovene majority in the Diet of Carniola and in the capital Laibach (Ljubljana); they replaced German with Slovene as their primary official language."

Are there any sources for that? I don't seem to find anything on that, also not in other languages on Misplaced Pages. Weltengeist (talk) 20:54, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

I made a flag

I made a flag that is non-official, can I add it? 188.252.239.68 (talk) 15:02, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

No, sorry. AntiDionysius (talk) 15:04, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
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