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== Child protection == == Draft articles ==


=== Doing ===
I notice your interest in child protection and would be interested to hear your thoughts on an issue that I came across recently. I was involved in mediation of a dispute on the ] page. Note that this mediation ended some time ago. During the mediation, the mediator at one time suggested that he wanted to start private mediation with individual editors and wanted to contact me off-wiki by phone, IRC, or Skype to help with the mediation process. I declined to accept this although I was put under some pressure by the mediator and other editors to do so. My reasons for doing this are given in full here ] and discussed at some length later on in that page.


* TBD
One of my reasons for not complying was child protection. For the most part, Misplaced Pages is a relatively safe place for the vulnerable but you can see clear child protection issues arising when editors can be put under pressure to speak privately to another person. I was staggered by the mediation committee's lack of understanding of this subject.


=== To do ===
In the end I changed the mediation policy to state that private mediation can be declined without giving a reason. There was some resistance to this to start with but my latest additions are still in place. Whether this is because they have become accepted as a consensus view or because no one notices or cares I do not know.


* ] - see ]
As the policy is fine now, I am not asking for any action by you but I would be interested to hear your views on the subject. ] (]) 13:33, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
* ] - ] project: Germany, Ireland
* ] / ] - assistant State Pathologist for Ireland. See ]
* ] - notorious ] murder squad sub-group. They were literally called this
* ] - creators of the ]
* ] - Colonel Meade James Crosbie Dennis C.B - radio pioneer, arguably creator of the first ] transmission, and inventor of the ], used to detect submarines underwater using radio waves. See ].
* ] - Wlodzimierz "Wowa" Cwejman, ] designer. Died 2021
* ] - composer and musician - was married to Jill Frazer.
* ] - from ]
* ] - Irish journalist, murdered by the ] (currently redir)
* ] - musician, inventor, and creator of the ] in conjunction with ].
* ] - see ]
* ]
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Anyone else - feel free to work on these - ] <sup>]</sup>


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:One of the mediators AKG has now confirmed that he supports my policy changes, so the situation would seem to be resolved. I would still be interested to hear you opinion on the subject though. ] (]) 12:36, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
:: Hi Martin. My personal opinion on this is that no editor should be ''forced'' into off-wiki mediation for any reason. It's a breach of privacy and is worrying, especially in the case where minors are involved. Children should, IMO, be actively discouraged from contact with adults by phone, etc. It's a disaster waiting to happen and impacts their privacy and safety. In short; yes, I agree with you - ] <sup>]</sup> 05:34, 2 August 2010 (UTC)


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:It's obviously not Alison. --'''<font face="Segoe Print">]</span>''' 10:06, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
: This would be Mickey Darwin or GEORGIEGIBBONS again. Color me shocked, I say!! :-D - ] <sup>]</sup> 05:31, 2 August 2010 (UTC)


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: Ok, back to sleep I go. Better things to do right now - ] <sup>]</sup> 05:09, 2 August 2010 (UTC)


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* Heyya. Yeah, here are the main rangeblock histories; - the first one is the most targeted. More and and and so on. Plenty more, but you get the idea <_< - ] <sup>]</sup> 05:20, 2 August 2010 (UTC)


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== Weird Censoring Issue from 2011 ==

I know this is from over a decade ago, but I was looking at my contribution history and it made me think of the time when my browser was inexplicably censoring everything on your page and the page of ] and you ended up having to be in the middle of it. Not sure if you even remember it occurring, but I thought you might be interested in hearing an update all these years later because it was so bizarre.

Anyway, just for context, I was just short of 13 years old when that happened. Age-wise, I could see my parents maybe having some sort of filter on my computer, I'm pretty sure it was not some sort of computer virus. I never specifically asked them about it, my mom could get kind of reactive about things so I didn't want her assuming I was doing something inappropriate. The only thing I can think of on why it never recurred again is that they took internet away from that computer (for reasons that stretch outside of this conversation, nothing terrible though, mainly staying up too late and being lethargic at school) and they maybe never thought to do that again.

It definitely was not malicious on my part, I was as confounded about it as anyone else, plus I curse like a sailor in certain environments so I am not against profanity as a rule. --] (]) 05:24, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

* Hey there, {{Ping|Thebirdlover}}. Yeah, it's been nearly 15 years since that incident. I can tell you what happened. Back then, I was an ], and had responsibilities for ] and for ]. Back then, you were a minor, and I was alerted to remove certain information from your user page for your own safety. It's usually done very discretely and even ] can't see the edits. So that's what happened.

* The issue with ] was unrelated to yours but involved ], so I had to dive in there and do some redaction - ] <sup>]</sup> 22:22, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

**I know what the oversight issue was about (that was going back to when I started here), I was talking about ] that you were involved in related to my computer haphazardly removing expletives because I was reminded of it and felt like trying to explain what was going on as best as I possibly could (even though I still don't completely know what happened). --] (]) 02:15, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
*** Yeah, I had no idea what happened there, and still don't. It looks like there was some weird ] on your computer, as it wasn't retroactively censored on the WP side, from what I can see - ] <sup>]</sup> 19:30, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

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Today is Schoenberg's 150th birthday! On display his portrait by Egon Schiele, music from Moses und Aron, and two DYK hooks, one from 2010 and another from 2014; the latter, about his 40th birthday, appeared on his 140th birthday ;) - See places for a stunning sunrise, on the day Bruckner's 200th birthday was celebrated (just a few days late). -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:03, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

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I know this is from over a decade ago, but I was looking at my contribution history and it made me think of the time when my browser was inexplicably censoring everything on your page and the page of User:Jolly Janner and you ended up having to be in the middle of it. Not sure if you even remember it occurring, but I thought you might be interested in hearing an update all these years later because it was so bizarre.

Anyway, just for context, I was just short of 13 years old when that happened. Age-wise, I could see my parents maybe having some sort of filter on my computer, I'm pretty sure it was not some sort of computer virus. I never specifically asked them about it, my mom could get kind of reactive about things so I didn't want her assuming I was doing something inappropriate. The only thing I can think of on why it never recurred again is that they took internet away from that computer (for reasons that stretch outside of this conversation, nothing terrible though, mainly staying up too late and being lethargic at school) and they maybe never thought to do that again.

It definitely was not malicious on my part, I was as confounded about it as anyone else, plus I curse like a sailor in certain environments so I am not against profanity as a rule. --Thebirdlover (talk) 05:24, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

  • Hey there, @Thebirdlover:. Yeah, it's been nearly 15 years since that incident. I can tell you what happened. Back then, I was an Oversighter, and had responsibilities for personally-identifying information and for children's privacy. Back then, you were a minor, and I was alerted to remove certain information from your user page for your own safety. It's usually done very discretely and even administrators can't see the edits. So that's what happened.
    • I know what the oversight issue was about (that was going back to when I started here), I was talking about this situation that you were involved in related to my computer haphazardly removing expletives because I was reminded of it and felt like trying to explain what was going on as best as I possibly could (even though I still don't completely know what happened). --Thebirdlover (talk) 02:15, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
      • Yeah, I had no idea what happened there, and still don't. It looks like there was some weird censorware on your computer, as it wasn't retroactively censored on the WP side, from what I can see - Alison 19:30, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

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Thank you today for pointing at him! - I have Michael Ruetz on the same page (see story), and music to express happiness and sadness. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:54, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

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