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Most Wiki articles about world leaders include a reported salary but Xi's does not. Can an editor add this? His annual salary is reportedly ¥136,620 or around US$19,200 https://politicalsalaries.com/is-it-true-xi-jinping-only-earns-us19000/ While this is not a verified salary, it is the best estimate we have (and many other world leaders' salaries are also estimates not exact) ] (]) 01:39, 21 November 2024 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 29 November 2024 == |
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Why was the information in the infobox on Xi Jinping's military service in the People's Liberation Army omitted? The article itself mentions that Xi spent a few years serving in the PLA with this citation<ref name="newyorker2">{{cite news |last1=Osnos |first1=Evan |author-link=Evan Osnos |date=30 March 2015 |title=Born Red |magazine=] |url=http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/04/06/born-red |url-status=live |access-date=11 September 2019 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20191004153259/https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/04/06/born-red |archive-date=4 October 2019}}</ref>, and several articles about politicians contain information on their military service (such as ]). 500 edits ago this information was included in the infobox, . So why was this omitted? |
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I propose that this information be re-added to the infobox as shown: |
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:He was a secretary to the Defence Minister, which is a civil position in itself, so that would also be a purely civil position and not really military service; Vladimir Putin, who you cited as an example, saw active service as a KGB agent and also held a military rank, which is why his military service is noted in the infobox. ] (]) 23:32, 18 April 2024 (UTC) |
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"In 1968, Xi submitted an application to the Bayi School's Reform Committee and insisted on leaving Beijing for countryside." |
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== Place of birth == |
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"leaving Beijing for '''the''' countryside" |
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Xi Jinping was born in Beijing or in Shaanxi Province? I found different places from online sources. ] (]) 17:46, 1 June 2024 (UTC) |
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Thank you ] (]) 17:59, 29 November 2024 (UTC) |
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:It would be helpful to say what sources you're looking at if you want to know anything more than the correct answer, which is Beijing. ]] 18:05, 1 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::@] there are a lot of sources that records his birthplace as "Shaanxi Province" (for example: Financial Times https://www.ft.com/content/b9ff5090-2d54-11e2-9988-00144feabdc0, Oxford University Press https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/acref/9780191802997.001.0001/acref-9780191802997-e-3552, Encyclopedia Britannica https://www.britannica.com/biography/Xi-Jinping....) ] (]) 18:12, 1 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::Wait. I'm going to look into this, and I'll let you know in a moment whether I feel really foolish or not. ]] 18:17, 1 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::::@] In the first volume of "Xi Jinping: The Governance of China" written by Xi Jinping (it can be consulted here https://archive.org/details/xijinpingthegovernanceofchinavolume1/page/n310/mode/1up?q=Shaanxi+) there is written "Shaanxi, my home province". We should correct his birthplace here in Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 22:32, 1 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::So I did look into this to make sure. It seems like a pretty basic mistake is being made by these sources: it's universally reported that Xi's home province is Shaanxi, that his father was born in Funing, and sometimes simply that he himself is "from" Funing. These are all true. However, it's pretty clear that official sources note he was <em>born</em> in Beijing when that word is used, which seems perfectly reasonable. If I'm born somewhere but grow up somewhere else, the latter is clearly my hometown/homeland/etc. ]] 23:12, 1 June 2024 (UTC) |
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Most, if not all, of the sources on Xi's early biography (particularly his early career) are from Chinese media. It is no secret that such sources are questionable, especially regarding the many "projects" listed in career section, and normative statements such as " organization efficiency." |
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::::::@] Can you link some official and institutional sources which indicate his birthplace as "Beijing", please? This way I can get better information and possibly report the error to these websites. ] (]) 23:30, 1 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::::Sure. ]] 23:32, 1 June 2024 (UTC) |
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These sources deserve further review and possible deletion and replacement. If there are no trustworthy replacements for the many claims, than I would rather they not be stated in the article. ] (]) 02:01, 16 December 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::::@] In this official registration document https://www.dialoguechina.com/%E6%81%B6%E4%BF%97%E7%BB%B4%E5%9F%BA%E6%A1%88-%E8%B4%A3%E4%BB%BB%E4%BA%BA/ ------ https://nmsl.website/index.php?title=%E4%B9%A0%E8%BF%91%E5%B9%B3 there is written that he was born in Fuping County, Shaanxi Province. ] (]) 09:11, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::::::This is pretty bizarre, then! ]] 09:34, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:I think the normative and reputational material should receive a bit more scrutiny, but I would likely advise against excising totally innocuous details. <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F">]<span style="color:#fff"> ‥ </span>]</span> 02:10, 16 December 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::::::How can we resolve this issue? Do we mention both places of birth? ] (]) 12:25, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::Upon checking some more sources, it seems I was right before: the sources that are listing Funing just misunderstood the Chinese sources saying his hometown is Funing. Every official source I've seen that specifies says that he was born in Beijing. The image above seems to be of unreliable provenance, I dug and only found it being used in weird places. ]] 12:42, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::@] But in this post https://www.facebook.com/share/v/3Ae2nLpDHXVTYSaa/ of China Central Television, which is the official mouthpiece of the Chinese Communist Party, it is reported that Xi Jinping was born in "Fuping, Shaanxi". ] (]) 13:38, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::::Not quite. {{lang|zh|1953年6月生，陝西富平人}} means {{xt|Born in June 1953, a native of Funing, Shaanxi.}} This is the phraseology that's being misunderstood. The placement of the comma may be rather helpful here. ]] 13:44, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
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"In 1968, Xi submitted an application to the Bayi School's Reform Committee and insisted on leaving Beijing for countryside."
Most, if not all, of the sources on Xi's early biography (particularly his early career) are from Chinese media. It is no secret that such sources are questionable, especially regarding the many "projects" listed in career section, and normative statements such as " organization efficiency."
These sources deserve further review and possible deletion and replacement. If there are no trustworthy replacements for the many claims, than I would rather they not be stated in the article. 72.89.22.163 (talk) 02:01, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
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