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== Mixing time-lines? Jehanne v Arc == |
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== Gender and Sexuality of Joan of Arc == |
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Because the gender and sexuality of Joan of Arc are often debated, I was wondering if it would be appropriate to include the categories ] and ]. This is in no way an opinion for or against these theories, it is simply recognizing that they exist. I added these categories to the article ]. ] (]) 21:39, 16 October 2024 (UTC) |
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First to note is how her name is spelled. You see other versions than Jehanne while D'Arc is used. No problem, it's history. I'm just saying it should be noted somewhere about how those two overlap (and maybe why). I consider this bit inconsistent. It probably is D'Arc, according to hand script, and the time-line probably started at the naming of Du Lys. There is concern -- hand script. I know what it says, but I know the brits won't settle on it, too. Otherwise, good work, above! ] (]) 12:38, 28 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:I'm open to adding the category, the sub-article on the topic definitely illustrates some of the issues and the debate. But, I know that this has been a contentious issue with Joan. There are some editors with strong opinions on the topic, maybe they will weigh in. ] (]) 16:38, 17 October 2024 (UTC) |
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revoluion = revolution ] (]) 19:17, 11 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{done}}<!-- Template:EEp --> , thanks! ] (] / ]) 19:19, 11 July 2024 (UTC) |
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broken a promise of marriage |
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using this code: |
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Also, a couple of sentences earlier, there's a passage reading |
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<nowiki>] saints</nowiki> |
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Since the sentence also says that they were ''tortured and martyred'', please change these words to |
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<nowiki>]</nowiki> |
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The women referenced in this section both appear in the prose at the beginning of the target section. Thank you. ] (]) 23:43, 29 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{not done}}:<!-- Template:EEp --> no need for the first link per ]. Second link is fine. <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F">]<span style="color:#fff"> ‥ </span>]</span> 23:46, 29 October 2024 (UTC) |
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== Didn't she refer to herself as Jehanne? == |
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== Category:Women warriors == |
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In the page it says that she refers to herself as "Jeanne," but isn't this the standardized version of her name? You even have her signature in the page "Jehanne" ] (]) 12:40, 20 November 2024 (UTC) |
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She should be added to this category. |
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:Have you seen all the different ways Shakespeare signed his name? More or less, orthography in every European language before 1800 was sporadically standardized at best. <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F">]<span style="color:#fff"> ‥ </span>]</span> 12:43, 20 November 2024 (UTC) |
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<nowiki>(~~~~)</nowiki> ] (]) 05:40, 26 July 2024 (UTC) |
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== Does the lede need to be so long? == |
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== Appearance section == |
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Hello, can someone with access write a section about Joan's appearance and character? There are many descriptions of her. It's interesting. ] (]) 17:34, 5 August 2024 (UTC) |
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This article has a gold star, but I have no idea why so much biographical detail is needed in the summary of a ]. I am not going to attempt to edit it but as someone familiar with being concise I think it can be trimmed down to give a snapshot of her, without being so long. ] (]) 21:06, 22 December 2024 (UTC) |
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: ''she requested to be taken to Charles VII, later testifying that she was guided by visions from the archangel Michael, Saint Margaret, and Saint Catherine to help him save France from English domination. Convinced of her devotion and purity, Charles sent Joan, who was about seventeen years old, to the siege of Orléans as part of a relief army. She arrived at the city in April 1429, wielding her banner and bringing hope to the demoralized French army. Nine days after her arrival, the English abandoned the siege. Joan encouraged the French to aggressively pursue the English during the Loire Campaign, which culminated in another decisive victory at Patay, opening the way for the French army to advance on Reims unopposed, where Charles was crowned as the King of France with Joan at his side. These victories boosted French morale, paving the way for their final triumph in the Hundred Years' War several decades later.''Why all of this detail in a summary? <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 21:08, 22 December 2024 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:It's four full-ish paragraphs, which is roughly what we aim for. The passage you posted is a pretty memorable narrative arc in her life. If I were to pick an FA to rag on its lead, it wouldn't be this one. <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F">]<span style="color:#fff"> ‥ </span>]</span> 22:03, 22 December 2024 (UTC) |
In the page it says that she refers to herself as "Jeanne," but isn't this the standardized version of her name? You even have her signature in the page "Jehanne" Tisthefirstletter (talk) 12:40, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
This article has a gold star, but I have no idea why so much biographical detail is needed in the summary of a WP:LEDE. I am not going to attempt to edit it but as someone familiar with being concise I think it can be trimmed down to give a snapshot of her, without being so long. Hausa warrior (talk) 21:06, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
level-3 vital article is rated FA-class on Misplaced Pages's content assessment scale.
Not done: no need for the first link per WP:OL. Second link is fine. Remsense ‥ 论 23:46, 29 October 2024 (UTC)