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Yes, the .top version is now offline so it didn't last very long. It is unclear why this has happened and the site faces another period of uncertainty. '''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 07:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:It's back, and according to the Dramatica forum, "] suspended the domain." So off we go with a new domain, with .top holding the record for the shortest tenure at less than a month.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 18:02, 9 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::Re . ED currently has two domains, edramatica.com which was registered on 9 June 2024, and dramatica.wtf which was registered on 13 May 2024 and is also being used for the forums. Since edramatica.com seems to be the main address and dramatica.wtf is a mirror, the article should give edramatica.com as the address per ].--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 10:00, 10 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::Re : edramatica.com is down at the moment, but it is unclear whether this is a temporary blip or something more serious.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 15:28, 17 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::::I'm an ED regular, and I saw it go down live. When it went down, edramatica.com was replaced with a page that said, "So Don't Do That Then... (This domain has been terminated for abuse)", so I think it's safe to believe that edramatica.com has been suspended by EasyDNS. ] (]) 17:23, 17 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::Thanks, there have been persistent claims in the past few weeks that domain registrars are unhappy with some of the content on ED. Freedom of speech is one thing, deliberate harassment and defamation of living people is another. Since this is all part of the fun (cough, cough) at ED, it leaves them with the difficult task of finding a new domain and web host.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 18:07, 17 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*And thanks to the wonders of the ], we can see the termination message . It does indeed say "So Don't Do That Then... (This domain has been terminated for abuse)" as a message from ], complete with a dead skeleton pirate. At this rate ED will end up as a ] only, because no domain will have them.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 18:18, 17 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*:The forums at also seem to be down, as all I get is an error message saying "Page could not be loaded". (On other devices I tried, the website won't even load at all and just says "DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN") ] (]) 22:37, 17 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:They are now on encyclopediadramatica.gay, which was registered with ] on 17 June 2024. So let's see how long this lasts, they have had three new domains in little over a month.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 07:01, 18 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::That might not be the wisest choice, per the ] section of the ] article. I don't know, we'll just have to wait and see how long this one will last for. ] (]) 11:57, 18 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::OT, but i'm surprised to see ED able to registed the .gay domain at all. ] (]) 11:20, 26 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::The .gay website now redirects to edramatica.com, which is working again. ] (]) 22:34, 25 August 2024 (UTC) |
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Re : It's true that the site is up and running at .win, but it is also up and running at .gay at the time of writing. This leads to a problem with ] as usually only one URL is given.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 07:01, 16 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:.gay is the current official domain and hosts both the Encyclopedia Dramatica Forums and the wiki. .win is an unauthorized copy of the site that was made by a disgruntled former wiki sysop. The .win site doesn't even have a forum because the guy who runs it never even had a copy of the forum database (although he tried to beg the owner of .gay for the database). |
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:No one of any importance from .online or any of the previous domains is using .win, they are all on .gay. ] (]) 00:40, 19 July 2024 (UTC) |
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::The main pages of .gay and .win are different, so they are not a complete mirror. Also, .win does not have the forums which are only on .gay. So it does look like .win is an unofficial mirror and not endorsed by the people at .gay.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 07:12, 21 July 2024 (UTC) |
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: Those are 'very interesting' one sided comments by both editors, hmmm, but above statement makes no sense if some ver is accepted or not... .win has more articles, also .win has more quality videos... ] (]) 16:33, 21 July 2024 (UTC) |
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::I'm not going to get drawn into an argument over which is the better or more official version, but they are not serving exactly the same content and .win does not have the forum pages.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 16:39, 21 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:It would seem that .win is down for the count, leaving edramatica.com as the sole host of the property. The circle of life continues... ''']'''<sub> (]•])</sub> 16:02, 27 September 2024 (UTC) |
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Where is the external link ? ] (]) 04:33, 3 July 2023 (UTC) |
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::It's hard to keep up with this, but at the time of writing, .gay is completely offline, while .win has a page saying "It's over - for now... Due to reasons that shall not be disclosed I will not be able to run encyclopediadramatica.win anymore - at least all on my own." This means that edramatica.com is the only working version at the moment, and thankfully we no longer have to listen to arguments about whether .win or .gay is the better version, because both of them are unavailable now.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 16:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC) |
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:::{{Reply|ianmacm}} I'm beginning to get concerned about the quality of the article, as the list of domains & owners is becoming too unwieldy for the infobox. We should probably find a way to truncate it. ''']'''<sub> (]•])</sub> 17:22, 27 September 2024 (UTC) |
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::::Agreed, I'm not sure that the infobox needs to list all of the domains that are now defunct.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 17:41, 27 September 2024 (UTC) |
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:If there is no need for one, I'd understand the reasons for this. I'm a newbie here. ] (]) 04:43, 3 July 2023 (UTC) |
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why is there no link? ] (]) 17:47, 19 November 2024 (UTC) |
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::There is a link to the .online version in the infobox, but it is not clickable due to ].--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 06:58, 3 July 2023 (UTC) |
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:There have been so many ups and downs in 2024 that it is hard to keep track of them all. However, the article is correct that edramatica.com is currently the only one that is online. There is also a problem with ] due to unsuitable material on the main page (harassment, ] etc).--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 17:58, 19 November 2024 (UTC) |
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::I'm not sure why the user keeps deleting this as it answered the question and it's useful for other editors who might ask the same question. ] (]) 23:01, 19 November 2024 (UTC) |
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:::as of 12/20/24, edramatica.com is down with the "timed out" error, awaiting further information. ] (]) 06:51, 20 December 2024 (UTC) |
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::::IsItDownRightNow says that it has been down for over a week. This means that at the time of writing, the site is not online at all. This isn't a major panic, as ED has been offline for weeks in the past and returned. Watch this space.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 08:23, 20 December 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::Are you checking some other ED mirror? I'm taking about edramatica.com, which was back on the same day it got down, which was 12/20/24. ] (]) 18:43, 21 December 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::I couldn't access edramatica.com yesterday (20 December), but it is back online today. IsItDownRightNow agrees and says "Last down: 1 day 10 hours ago.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 20:42, 21 December 2024 (UTC) |
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Despite agreeing with lines such as "the site hosts racist material and shock content", I'm not sure if that compromises the ] of the article. Best regards, Nobody expects the ] (])! 14:54, 2 November 2023 (UTC) |
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:Honestly "prejudice" would be a better word than "racist", because you can't be racist against "furries". And if the argument is that the mere existance of something that is racist means the site ''is'' racist, then that means pretty much every American politician is racist just because they've verifiably said something that could be easily argued to be racist. But of course no one in the right mind would consider a politician who was, say, verifiably against bussing at one point in their career (which could arguably seen as reflecting resistance to policies aimed at addressing racial segregation and promoting racial equality) as outright racist. |
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:Basically, it's essential to recognize that shock-value racism like Encyclopedia Dramatica uses hurtful language not because the individuals genuinely believe in the racist statements, but because they seek to provoke strong reactions for entertainment value. Consequently, responding with strong emotions to such provocations can inadvertently play into their hands, and it doesn't deter the provocateurs from their primary goal of inciting reactions. Instead, it's more effective to withhold the emotional response and deny them the satisfaction they seek. This includes calling their content "racist", because even tho the language is, and perhaps was added by an actual racist editor, I feel like calling it as such simply ''lures'' in people who think "they should be stopped!", which provides a constant feed of unwitting victims who can be trolled "for the lulz". |
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:In other words, I feel it's more appropriate to call it for what it is: shock content that uses the language used by racists solely to provoke unwitting readers into reacting emotionally which can then be exploited for "the lulz". Claiming the site itself is racist or "hosts racist material" is not very neutral as it is asserting that the site is something that it isn't. |
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:Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that ED members actually made that claim as a sort of game of five-D chess to make the site seem more "evil" than it actually is, in order to provide that constant feed of unwitting victims to the site who are either ignorant of ED's goal of trolling "for the lulz" or think they can "raid" ED to "fix" it or something. — ] (]) 17:40, 2 November 2023 (UTC) |
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::Yeah, but I still think a little rewriting should be in the works. I also think it's bias by omission, as the content itself is meant for entertainment value, albeit being not very socially correct or sensitive. The only thing I think should be rewrote due to omission is that part. It IS, in fact, troll culture. They are trying to get a reaction. And the users DO partake in harassment. I just think the racism is a bit murky with intention, and should be put as such. I can't tell whether it's entirely for shock value or to spread racist ideals, but this is my case for a rewrite. Cheers, Nobody expects the ] (])! 17:52, 3 November 2023 (UTC) |
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(12/23/24) ] (]) 06:49, 23 December 2024 (UTC) |
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:edramatica.com is back up. (12/23/24) ] (]) 09:56, 23 December 2024 (UTC) |
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We have now entered another period where the site is offline and there is currently no indication of what the problem is and when it might return. The error given is DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN which means that the URL does not resolve to an IP address. The infobox should not say "offline" for brief outages, but this looks to be ongoing. '''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 07:45, 5 May 2024 (UTC) |
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::I'm relaxed about this, as ED's hosting is famously unreliable. It has been offline for days or weeks in the past.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 12:16, 23 December 2024 (UTC) |
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:The same error pops up to me, @], the text says "DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN", it can be that the domain, is down but, some "Sysops" said that the domain was seized for nonpayment or some user reporting the domain. Also, the forums were down with the same error. ] (]) 16:17, 11 May 2024 (UTC) |
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Yes, the .top version is now offline so it didn't last very long. It is unclear why this has happened and the site faces another period of uncertainty. ♦IanMacM♦ 07:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
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