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== Re: Speedy deletion nomination of ] ==


Hello, I just noticed that ] was deleted. It was deleted the same day it was flagged, so I didn't have a chance to dispute it. I was the one who originally wrote the article, however, I do agree with the claim that the article read as an advertisement when it was deleted. I wrote it neutrally (FYI, I have used the app a couple times but I'm in no way affiliated with the company), however, it seems to have evolved over time to be written more like an advertisement. Given the amount of press and funding the company has received, I believe I can revise it so that reads neutrally, and I can also help establish its notability. If you're able to provide a copy to ] (or any other method), I'd appreciate it! Thanks! --] (]) 04:51, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
:] , posted as requested, I've taken out the most obvious spam (eg quotes from the boss) and dodgy ELs, good luck ] (]) 05:45, 1 October 2016 (UTC)


== COI workaround? ==
== My page was deleted due to A7 ==


Hi Jim,
] (]) 08:01, 2 October 2016 (UTC) Hi there Jim, basically you deleted my Bio that i was created for my page that i need called ] i know self wrote bio's are not allowed but i seriously think if you would have seen the finished page after i edited it you would have kept it active. Basically i started to edit the page and saved it to see what it would look like, i then spent 3hours editing it a when i pressed save you had deleted it. I am currently in the process of being verified on facebook and need my Wiki bio as an extra reference for facebook. My music is played on BBC radio by highly rated presenters. I reallt dont understand why i cant have a bio on wiki ? Please contact me back and let me re-do my page for you to take a second look at as you deleted my preview from when i saved it. I literally spent all night editing it to press save and out you had deleted. R
Please reply or contact through email to - contact@krxnic.com ] (]) 08:01, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
::Replied on user talk page, watching draft now ] (]) 13:47, 2 October 2016 (UTC)


Got your message, thanks. First article attempt got deleted. Probably quite common. Still sad.
== Activating Recently Created Page ==


As you rightly mentioned, conflict of interest (COI) is the problem. Is there a workaround? Do I get someone else to write about me or are there more ways to just about keep article neutral enough for publication? Can I trouble you to have a look whether if it's worth my time requesting for a retrieval of the deleted content for another try? Thanks.
Hi Jim,

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] (]) 01:13, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

:Replied on user talk page ] - ] 09:06, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

==Io Saturnalia!==

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:], many thanks <small> and it's my birthday</small>. Best wishes to you and yours and the horses, a bit late for the bishops though. ] - ] 16:04, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

== NOTHERE user ==

This user edited the article about himself and added a family ] - . ] (]) 18:42, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

:], thanks. I notice that the user concerned has not been warned or even welcomed, so I'm reluctant to block at this stage. I'll welcome and warn, then there are no excuses if he continues ] - ] 08:25, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

::], I've nominated the image for deletion at Commons ] - ] 08:29, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Thanks jim] (]) 18:57, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

== Request for Review of Deletion of "Derek Warburton" Misplaced Pages Page ==

Dear Jimfbleak,

I hope you're doing well. I noticed that the Misplaced Pages page for Derek Warburton was recently deleted under the reason "G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion."
I believe the deletion may have been made in error, as I have reviewed the content of the article and would like to provide clarification regarding its notability. Derek Warburton has been covered extensively in independent, reliable sources such as:

* '''Forbes''': An interview discussing branding in the media and entertainment sectors. ()
* '''Elle Canada''': Featured for promoting international emerging designers. ()
* '''Flaunt Magazine''': Covered for launching a makeup line in collaboration with FACE Stockholm. ()
* '''Glamour Magazine''': Featured for his philanthropic work encouraging self-love. ()
* '''Mr. Warburton Magazine''': As the founder and editor-in-chief, showcasing art, fashion, and celebrity. ()

Furthermore, we understand the importance of adhering to Misplaced Pages's guidelines for neutrality and verifiability, and we are currently in the process of editing the article to ensure it aligns with these standards.

I would be grateful if you could review the article again, considering these improvements and the sources supporting his notability. If the article can be restored, I will continue to monitor and improve it to meet Misplaced Pages's guidelines.
Thank you for your time and consideration. I look forward to hearing from you.

Best regards,
Jenn Salmorin ] (]) 04:24, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

:], you claim to know the content of a deleted article that you cannot see, and you say '''''we''' are currently in the process of editing the article to ensure it aligns with these standards''. You have an obvious ], please read ] (sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the person or an associated organisation, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the person claims or interviewing them), the ], ] (articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic, with verifiable facts, not opinions or reviews) and ]. I note that your supposed refs include an interview with him and his own magazine, how are these independent third-party sources as we require here? If any new version appears that is non-compliant with our rules, I'll delete it and consider blocking the creator. ] - ] 06:26, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
::@]Thank you for your response, and I appreciate your dedication to maintaining Misplaced Pages’s high standards.
::I’d like to clarify a few points regarding my involvement:
::My Role: I am not the creator or editor of the deleted article. I represent Derek Warburton in a professional capacity and was made aware of the deletion by others. My intention in reaching out is to understand the concerns that led to the deletion and explore how the content might be improved or reinstated in line with Misplaced Pages’s guidelines.
::Conflict of Interest: I fully acknowledge and respect Misplaced Pages’s Conflict of Interest (COI) policy. As Derek Warburton’s representative, my intention is not to edit or recreate the article myself but to ensure that accurate, verifiable, and neutral information is available to support its potential inclusion.
::Sources and Compliance: I understand the need for independent, reliable third-party sources and neutrality. Derek Warburton has been covered by publications such as Forbes, Elle Canada, and Flaunt Magazine, which I believe meet these standards. If necessary, we are happy to provide a full list of these sources for your review.
::'''My main objective is to ensure that any future article on Derek Warburton is fully compliant with Misplaced Pages’s policies. Could you advise on the best way to move forward? '''
::I understand the importance of relying on independent, reliable third-party sources. Going forward, I will ensure that the team references only notable publications excluding interviews, press releases, or any sources affiliated with Derek Warburton or his organizations.
::The primary goal is to ensure that any future article fully meets Misplaced Pages’s standards for neutrality and verifiability. I would greatly appreciate your guidance on how to proceed constructively. Would preparing a draft and submitting it through the Articles for Creation (AfC) process for community review be the appropriate next step? If there are other considerations or steps we should follow, I am happy to relay this to the team and ensure they are addressed.
::I sincerely apologize if my initial outreach caused any misunderstanding about my intentions. I fully respect Misplaced Pages’s guidelines and your authority in this matter. My goal is to address the issue constructively and ensure compliance moving forward.
::Thank you again for your time and insights. I look forward to your advice on how best to resolve this matter.
::Best regards, ] (]) 07:06, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

:::] I'll post further guidance on your talk shortly ] - ] 08:58, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

== Sock farm ==

Never had this many socks in my life, imagine the shock Santa's getting from seeing this many :)

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:], yes, I think I blocked them all? ] - ] 14:55, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
::And another one. ] ]<sup>(])</sup> 15:05, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

:::], thanks, I think... ] - ] 15:08, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
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:::These guys are hell-bent on it. ]<sup>(])</sup> 13:03, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
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::::Yep, it's time to file an SPI report. Goodness... ]<sup>(])</sup> 13:06, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::] done! ]<sup>(])</sup> 13:24, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

== Request for Review of Deletion of Lindholm Misplaced Pages Page ==

Hi Jimfbleak,

Thanks for your review on my recently created page for Mr. Lindholm. Mr. Lindholm is a friend and I will disclose that COI moving forwards. Before I request recovery for the draft, I have some questions.

Would you be able to provide some clarification on why the page was deleted for ]'':'' ]? Mr. Lindholm is still alive and the purpose of the article is to provide additional context and information behind the development of graphic processing units, in particular the GeForce 256 hardware T&L and GeForce 3 shader units, as these technological advancements were key to modern GPUs. I included numerous citations and kept the tone of the article objective to avoid bias. Would you be able to let me know which sections were not objective and require updates or edits?

Your help is much appreciated as I'd like to ensure that any future article on Mr. Lindholm is compliant with Misplaced Pages policies.

Thanks!
] (]) 16:36, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

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:] Many thanks, best wishes to you too, although I'd get bored without the trolls! ] - ] 09:25, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

== Request for Review of Deletion of Guanghua Li Misplaced Pages Page ==

Hi Jimfbleak,

Thanks for your review on my recently created page for Guanghua Li.


Guanghua Li is a photographer, I like her children's pictures and that's the reason I create this page.
We created page Aniceto Nazareth https://en.wikipedia.org/Aniceto_Nazareth a week back.
As per your recommendations we added reference as well as various link within the content to internal and external source.


Would you be able to provide some clarification on why the page was deleted? The purpose of this entry is to introduce her briefly. There are many reports about her in Chinese. I already remove some personal description words and write it neutrally.
Still the page was deleted.


Your help is much appreciated as I'd like to ensure that any future article on Guanghua Li is compliant with Misplaced Pages policies.
Could you please check our recent updates and enable to page again?


Thanks. ] (]) 15:08, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
Let us know if anything in addition we need to make to avoid the page being deleted.


:Replied on user talk page ] - ] 16:35, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
Appreciate your help.


== Follow up on ZKH Industrial Supply page ==
] (]) 09:12, 3 October 2016 (UTC)


: Hi Jimfbleak,
:{{Ping|Anicetonazareth}} it was probably deleted per:
: Thanks and well received the latest feedback. I will adjust the content accordingly.
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: Don't get me wrong. I don't want to create promotional content for the organisation, I just want to write some existing facts about the firm so that audience can have more visibility about the company when they search it. The company is a Chinese firm and has listed on NYSE since 2023. Currently most of third-parties (like news) are from local and not in english language, I wonder if that's acceptable if I use them in citation? And is there a minumum number of reference needed?
] Please do not write or add to an article about yourself, as you apparently did at ]. Creating an ] is ''strongly'' discouraged – see our guideline on ]. If you create such an article, it may be deleted. If what you have done in life is genuinely notable and can be verified according to our policy for ], someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later (see ]). If you wish to add to an existing article about yourself, please propose the changes on its talk page. Please understand that this is an encyclopedia and not a personal web space or social networking site. If your article has already been deleted, please see: ], and if you feel the deletion was an error, please discuss it with the deleting administrator. Thank you.<!-- Template:uw-autobiography --> ] (]) 15:30, 27 September 2016 (UTC)</blockquote>
: Besides reference issue, regarding the latest edits, are any other parts that I need to adjust my wording?
: Thanks and looking forward to your feedback.
: Grace


] (]) 11:25, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages isn't for self-promotion. <sup>(talk page stalker)</sup> ''']]]''' 09:35, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
::], not much to add to ] and ]'s comments. Most of the text was still unsourced, and your one reference was not an ]. More to the point, it was a ], not a neutral encyclopaedia article. Phrases like ''They could not stop singing, so noble did they find the melody and so well fitted to the text of the Mass. The classic trend has come to stay and will hopefully replace Mass music based on pop songs.'' expresses your opinions and hopes, but is entirely fact-free ] (]) 10:29, 3 October 2016 (UTC)


::Replied on user talk page ] - ] 11:28, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
== page ] deleted ==


== Christmas spirit ==
Hi Jim,


I see they tried your generosity a smidgen too far <big>😇😈</big>. Folk think that making the declaration gives them great latitude. As a pedantic old scrote I thought of ''Bah!'' and ''Humbug!''. Please never stop being generous, especially with rope. Mwahahahaha! 🇺🇦&nbsp;]&nbsp;]&nbsp;🇺🇦 17:59, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for the reply on my page ] I will delete the sandbox and just redo the article as it was my first ever time using Wiki. I understand that i need reliable sources and my song is in the process of being added to my BBC Profile account. - Link to my BBC Profile below.


:Thanks ], I was recently criticised for being too gung-ho, so I'm playing nicely over the festive season, merry Christmas ] - ] 20:41, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artists/3af002bf-5ff0-41b1-a222-889734e828f4#tracks
::I doubt one will please everyone. Whatever you do, do it justifiably, as you do normally. Festive leniency of a good concept. A velvet fist in an iron glove? 🇺🇦&nbsp;]&nbsp;]&nbsp;🇺🇦 21:19, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
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== ''The Signpost'': 24 December 2024 ==
:{{tps}} {{ping|SMcCandlish}} I don't know if I'm missing some attempt at irony here, but surely there's more than a whiff of hypocrisy around warning someone about sanctions relating to the MOS/page title issue mere seconds after you saying that "{{tq|... an increasing number of FA regulars denigrate the contributions of all other editors as second-class and sub-par, often in incredibly insulting terms. It's no particular wonder that a handful of FA regulars have quit; at least two of them spent so much time savaging other editors at every opportunity that it was inevitable that WP become increasingly a place of unpleasant conflict for them, conflict of their own creation. This is remarkably similar to the ''{{lang|la|exeunt}}'' of a few editors in one of the biology projects who devoted so much time and escalating hostility to pushing, as an advocacy matter, an off-WP wannabe-standard for nomenclature, then pushing it beyond even the biological order to which is might apply, that ] on that front became their #1 priority instead of collaborating on a 💕 with the readership, not a favored group of specialists, in mind.}}" From where I'm sitting, you seem to be engaging in exactly the kind of aspersion-casting and dismissal of which you are accusing Jim. ] (]) 01:13, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
::], Having said what I did at FAC, I had no intention of participating any further in the debate, knowing from bitter experience that you will grind us all down. However, I can't ignore your threat of sanctions above since it seems to be totally gratuitous. If you think it's justified, please indicate when I last edited ] and/or ], the topics mentioned. I know better than to wade into that cesspit. If you accept that I haven't edited those topics in recent years, please withdraw your implied threat
:::], thanks for that, but it won't change his behaviour. I'm not going to let him drive me away, but there ''will'' be others, he's really good at this stuff and never tires ] (]) 05:38, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
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::{{ping|J Milburn}} Description of actions one has evidence of is entirely different from projection about someone's {{em|motivations}} which by their nature cannot be proven; the latter serves no purpose but character assassination. The thing is, Jimfbleak cannot possibly provide diffs proving "SMcCandlish has never been here to improve content", nor that I'm here "just to push his own version of MoS", which are easily {{em|dis}}proven. Nor will he be able to back up the claim I've ever "championed" a sockpuppet, which is absurd. Nor the "He won't give up ... relentless onslaught from him and his cronies", which is just substance-free aspersions against me and anyone else who doesn't agree with him, compounded by an insinuation of {{em|conspiracy}}. By contrast, I have diffs that demonstrate everything I mentioned, about a number of FAC regulars denigrating others, of two of the departing FAC people spending months in tagteam attack campaigns against "enemies", and of all the old WP:BIRDS history – piles and piles of diffs, years' worth, and the gist of it already appears in the record at the ] RfC. I never used it to address individual behaviors at dramaboards, because I'm averse to such processes and because it has seemed more productive to attempt to smooth things over with those people than to take them to task for these antics. Nor do I offer any opinion of the mental motivations for why anyone is engaging in them (I may have my hypotheses, but this is not the place to air them).<p>Jim can't even prove the claim that I "drove away some of the best and most active contributors to the Bird project", a bardic myth he likes to sing around the campfire but which has no basis in facts.
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In reality, a few editors said they were quitting over ] their ] to get what they wanted. However, one had actually quit a year earlier and only "returned" to make a show of quitting again, and another had left even earlier, after many threats to quit over just about everything, going back to {{em|2005}} (I have it on good authority that the original ] was actually written about that editor in particular, before my time here.) In reality, two editors actually quit over that issue, for real, and this was a very undesirable result. I've tried hard to head-off a repeat of this over similar matters like capitalization of domestic animal breed names. But if you look at what they were doing leading up to their decision, it was very similar to the attack-everyone-who-argues-with-me behavior two of the departing FAC editors have been pursuing for months, and like at least one of them, they didn't really quit, but kept coming back just to keep attacking people. When editors get like this it {{em|is}} time for them to take a wikibreak. People own their own emotions, and inability to remember that this is a collaborative, volunteer project for a general-audience readership, not a "SpecialistPedia" for experts or a "BlogPedia" for people who want to highlight and totally control their own "authored" pieces, is a clear ] problem, even if its often just a temporary one. They can spin it as retiring in disgust if they want to, but the fact of the matter is that they'll be forced off the system by administrative action if they don't stop attacking people just because their whims are thwarted and their patience short.


== Notification of consent ==
On the ] RfC: It was one of ] own number, Andrewa, who opened that RfC . {{em|My}} proposal, above that, was a much simpler do-or-do-not question about PoV-forking of guidelines. But Jimfbleak, et al., will probably never stop blaming {{em|me}} for them being hoisted by {{em|their own}} RfC petard (and rejecting all compromises that were offered, in every recurrent edition of that debate, dating back to 2008 or so). That RfC started because after a bird article ] (which involved {{em|no}} MoS/AT regulars at all) didn't go the way WP:BIRDS wanted and then a ] followup wasn't going their way either, they totally lost their cool about it, looked for a scapegoat, and launched an RfC full of hubris. I will continue to correct false accusations against me about this every time I encounter them, until the "SMcCandlish made some editors quit" myth dies. Some editors taking a "my way or the highway" battleground/soapbox stance, then choosing the highway when consensus (not, though some SuperMegaEditor&trade; magical power, SMcCandlish) didn't give them their way, is why some editors left. Editors leave all the time when they get overly emotionally invested in something and ] and the ] effect do not afford those individuals the ultimate control they want. This is sad, but it's a natural fact of wiki-life, and the best we can do is minimize it.


<nowiki>I am writing an article titled 'Kibirige Desire Edward" and just noticed that it was previously used but deleted on its submission. I hope you do not affect mine, it is an author's biography. (~~~~) </nowiki> ] (]) 06:53, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
Also, I {{em|am}} a active member of the WP:BIRDS project, and have been for years. The false dichotomy of "those MoS and AT people versus those bird people" (= "those MOS and infobox people versus those FAC people"), like the belief that WP:BIRDS was unanimous about anything (= belief that WP:FAC is a hive mind, too), are pure fantasy.
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::Moving on, Jim's "an MoS instigated by a sockpuppet" part doesn't even parse, so I have no idea what he's on about there. Neither MoS nor any of its subpages were created by sockpuppets that I know of, and if they were, I'm skeptical anyone would care as long as what they said made sense and was accepted by site-wide consensus. It's their content that matters, not who first came up with a draft version of them under what username. This relates strongly to the cult-of-personality problems surrounding FAC and FAs in general, a diffuse but detectable pattern of argument that who is doing the writing matters more than the content, than the combined editorial community, and than the audience.<p>'''Regardless of these details''', the point of Ds/alerts is to encourage de-escalation and more mindful comment posting; they are not salvos in a battle, but reminders that a battle does not need to happen. (I do not consider myself in a battle with Jimfbleak, and was frankly surprised to be verbally attacked by him in this way, over old news from years go that didn't even play out anything like the way he suggests.) I don't like the way the Ds/alert is worded, but ArbCom does not let us edit its content at all .</p><p>If Jim believed he could prove some case against me, he would have already done so years ago, judging by the heat of his posts about me. What he's doing is just '']'' and ] in service of personalized denigration because, as he says "yes, I'm still bitter". It has to stop. It's been going on sporadically for over two years, now that I bother to go diff-digging again: , a {{em|remarkably}} similar 2014 message casting the same mental aspersions and nefarious motives, and again making claims that are false on their face (e.g. "his changes to bird articles ... have lost several editors as a result" – {{em|I}} didn't make the changes to bird articles, I just argued more convincingly in WP:BIRDS's own RfC, which didn't close the way some WP:BIRDS members wanted, and a few people left because the RfC didn't go their way, being overly invested in the result). The fact that Jim's tune has not changed in years inspires me to cite ]. The hilariously ironic thing is that particular discussion from 2014 was about me supposedly "disrupting" animal breed articles (which Jim doesn't edit that I know of – he just seemed to have showed up to stick it to me) with moves toward consistent names; later, the RMs went exactly the way I suggested, their naming is now stable and consistent, and (among other actions by me) this directly thwarted a then-brewing "let's go decapitalize all the animal breeds" putsch that would have caused even more drama than the BIRDCON fiasco. Of course, I never get any credit for that, just as neither the closer of the WP:BIRDCON RfC, nor the other closer of the RM that led to it, ever receive any ire from Jim and friends. Nope, everything bad is SMcCandlish's fault, and everything he does is bad. &lt;rolling my eyes&gt;</p><p>Jim's entirely within his rights to constructively criticize other editors, if the criticisms are something he can back up. If they're not, it's just a ] / ] / ] problem, and he'd do well to take a close read of ], where ArbCom is seriously considering desysopping someone for civility problems. BTW, I'm arguing {{em|against}} that result , despite being the recipient of some of that editor's incivility. Not everyone on WP has some binary "do things my way, or else either I have to quit or you have to be forced off the project" attitude. But note that Jim said "expect other FAC contributors to walk rather than face" continued disagreement, and repeated this sentiment here on his talk page. Honestly, I think my road is higher, and my horse lower, than Jim's on this matter. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — ] ] ] ≽<sup>ʌ</sup>ⱷ҅<sub>ᴥ</sub>ⱷ<sup>ʌ</sup>≼ </span> 05:50, 9 October 2016 (UTC)</p>

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COI workaround?

Hi Jim,

Got your message, thanks. First article attempt got deleted. Probably quite common. Still sad.

As you rightly mentioned, conflict of interest (COI) is the problem. Is there a workaround? Do I get someone else to write about me or are there more ways to just about keep article neutral enough for publication? Can I trouble you to have a look whether if it's worth my time requesting for a retrieval of the deleted content for another try? Thanks.

Cen2mftn Cen2mftn (talk) 01:13, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Replied on user talk page Jimfbleak - talk to me? 09:06, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Io Saturnalia!

Io, Saturnalia!
Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and distraction-free. Ealdgyth (talk) 15:14, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
Ealdgyth, many thanks and it's my birthday. Best wishes to you and yours and the horses, a bit late for the bishops though. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:04, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

NOTHERE user

This user edited the article about himself and added a family selfie - . Drew Stanley (talk) 18:42, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Drew Stanley, thanks. I notice that the user concerned has not been warned or even welcomed, so I'm reluctant to block at this stage. I'll welcome and warn, then there are no excuses if he continues Jimfbleak - talk to me? 08:25, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Drew Stanley, I've nominated the image for deletion at Commons Jimfbleak - talk to me? 08:29, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Thanks jimDrew Stanley (talk) 18:57, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Request for Review of Deletion of "Derek Warburton" Misplaced Pages Page

Dear Jimfbleak,

I hope you're doing well. I noticed that the Misplaced Pages page for Derek Warburton was recently deleted under the reason "G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion." I believe the deletion may have been made in error, as I have reviewed the content of the article and would like to provide clarification regarding its notability. Derek Warburton has been covered extensively in independent, reliable sources such as:

  • Forbes: An interview discussing branding in the media and entertainment sectors. (Forbes)
  • Elle Canada: Featured for promoting international emerging designers. (Elle Canada)
  • Flaunt Magazine: Covered for launching a makeup line in collaboration with FACE Stockholm. (Flaunt)
  • Glamour Magazine: Featured for his philanthropic work encouraging self-love. (Derek Warburton Press)
  • Mr. Warburton Magazine: As the founder and editor-in-chief, showcasing art, fashion, and celebrity. (Mr. Warburton Magazine)

Furthermore, we understand the importance of adhering to Misplaced Pages's guidelines for neutrality and verifiability, and we are currently in the process of editing the article to ensure it aligns with these standards.

I would be grateful if you could review the article again, considering these improvements and the sources supporting his notability. If the article can be restored, I will continue to monitor and improve it to meet Misplaced Pages's guidelines. Thank you for your time and consideration. I look forward to hearing from you.

Best regards, Jenn Salmorin Jenn Salmorin (talk) 04:24, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Jenn Salmorin, you claim to know the content of a deleted article that you cannot see, and you say we are currently in the process of editing the article to ensure it aligns with these standards. You have an obvious conflict of interest, please read independent verifiable sources (sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the person or an associated organisation, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the person claims or interviewing them), the notability guidelines, promotion (articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic, with verifiable facts, not opinions or reviews) and paid editing. I note that your supposed refs include an interview with him and his own magazine, how are these independent third-party sources as we require here? If any new version appears that is non-compliant with our rules, I'll delete it and consider blocking the creator. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:26, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
@JimfbleakThank you for your response, and I appreciate your dedication to maintaining Misplaced Pages’s high standards.
I’d like to clarify a few points regarding my involvement:
My Role: I am not the creator or editor of the deleted article. I represent Derek Warburton in a professional capacity and was made aware of the deletion by others. My intention in reaching out is to understand the concerns that led to the deletion and explore how the content might be improved or reinstated in line with Misplaced Pages’s guidelines.
Conflict of Interest: I fully acknowledge and respect Misplaced Pages’s Conflict of Interest (COI) policy. As Derek Warburton’s representative, my intention is not to edit or recreate the article myself but to ensure that accurate, verifiable, and neutral information is available to support its potential inclusion.
Sources and Compliance: I understand the need for independent, reliable third-party sources and neutrality. Derek Warburton has been covered by publications such as Forbes, Elle Canada, and Flaunt Magazine, which I believe meet these standards. If necessary, we are happy to provide a full list of these sources for your review.
My main objective is to ensure that any future article on Derek Warburton is fully compliant with Misplaced Pages’s policies. Could you advise on the best way to move forward?
I understand the importance of relying on independent, reliable third-party sources. Going forward, I will ensure that the team references only notable publications excluding interviews, press releases, or any sources affiliated with Derek Warburton or his organizations.
The primary goal is to ensure that any future article fully meets Misplaced Pages’s standards for neutrality and verifiability. I would greatly appreciate your guidance on how to proceed constructively. Would preparing a draft and submitting it through the Articles for Creation (AfC) process for community review be the appropriate next step? If there are other considerations or steps we should follow, I am happy to relay this to the team and ensure they are addressed.
I sincerely apologize if my initial outreach caused any misunderstanding about my intentions. I fully respect Misplaced Pages’s guidelines and your authority in this matter. My goal is to address the issue constructively and ensure compliance moving forward.
Thank you again for your time and insights. I look forward to your advice on how best to resolve this matter.
Best regards, Jenn Salmorin (talk) 07:06, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Jenn Salmorin I'll post further guidance on your talk shortly Jimfbleak - talk to me? 08:58, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Sock farm

Never had this many socks in my life, imagine the shock Santa's getting from seeing this many :)

User:Panamorrrr13

User:Sxi4z

User:Nannaphat2807

User:Waradiw

User:Neoy 01 🔥YesI'mOnFire🔥 14:40, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

🔥YesI'mOnFire🔥, yes, I think I blocked them all? Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:55, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
And another one. User:Thearea51 🔥YesI'mOnFire🔥 15:05, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
🔥YesI'mOnFire🔥, thanks, I think... Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:08, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
User:Yoyocutieroll
These guys are hell-bent on it. 🔥YesI'mOnFire🔥 13:03, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
User:Varinthon
Yep, it's time to file an SPI report. Goodness... 🔥YesI'mOnFire🔥 13:06, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Varinthon done! 🔥YesI'mOnFire🔥 13:24, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Request for Review of Deletion of Lindholm Misplaced Pages Page

Hi Jimfbleak,

Thanks for your review on my recently created page for Mr. Lindholm. Mr. Lindholm is a friend and I will disclose that COI moving forwards. Before I request recovery for the draft, I have some questions.

Would you be able to provide some clarification on why the page was deleted for U5: Misuse of Misplaced Pages as a web host? Mr. Lindholm is still alive and the purpose of the article is to provide additional context and information behind the development of graphic processing units, in particular the GeForce 256 hardware T&L and GeForce 3 shader units, as these technological advancements were key to modern GPUs. I included numerous citations and kept the tone of the article objective to avoid bias. Would you be able to let me know which sections were not objective and require updates or edits?

Your help is much appreciated as I'd like to ensure that any future article on Mr. Lindholm is compliant with Misplaced Pages policies.

Thanks! Bage4416 (talk) 16:36, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

A very happy Christmas and New Year to you!


Have a great Christmas, and may 2025 bring you joy, happiness – and no trolls or vandals!

Cheers

SchroCat (talk) 08:30, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

SchroCat Many thanks, best wishes to you too, although I'd get bored without the trolls! Jimfbleak - talk to me? 09:25, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Request for Review of Deletion of Guanghua Li Misplaced Pages Page

Hi Jimfbleak,

Thanks for your review on my recently created page for Guanghua Li.

Guanghua Li is a photographer, I like her children's pictures and that's the reason I create this page.

Would you be able to provide some clarification on why the page was deleted? The purpose of this entry is to introduce her briefly. There are many reports about her in Chinese. I already remove some personal description words and write it neutrally.

Your help is much appreciated as I'd like to ensure that any future article on Guanghua Li is compliant with Misplaced Pages policies.

Thanks. 数峰青 (talk) 15:08, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Replied on user talk page Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:35, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Follow up on ZKH Industrial Supply page

Hi Jimfbleak,
Thanks and well received the latest feedback. I will adjust the content accordingly.
Don't get me wrong. I don't want to create promotional content for the organisation, I just want to write some existing facts about the firm so that audience can have more visibility about the company when they search it. The company is a Chinese firm and has listed on NYSE since 2023. Currently most of third-parties (like news) are from local and not in english language, I wonder if that's acceptable if I use them in citation? And is there a minumum number of reference needed?
Besides reference issue, regarding the latest edits, are any other parts that I need to adjust my wording?
Thanks and looking forward to your feedback.
Grace

Grace at ZKH (talk) 11:25, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Replied on user talk page Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:28, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Christmas spirit

I see they tried your generosity a smidgen too far 😇😈. Folk think that making the declaration gives them great latitude. As a pedantic old scrote I thought of Bah! and Humbug!. Please never stop being generous, especially with rope. Mwahahahaha! 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 17:59, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Fiddle, I was recently criticised for being too gung-ho, so I'm playing nicely over the festive season, merry Christmas Jimfbleak - talk to me? 20:41, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
I doubt one will please everyone. Whatever you do, do it justifiably, as you do normally. Festive leniency of a good concept. A velvet fist in an iron glove? 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 21:19, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
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Hello Jimfbleak: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Misplaced Pages. Cheers, Drm310 🍁 (talk) 06:18, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

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Drm310, thanks, best to you and yours too Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:26, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

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Notification of consent

I am writing an article titled 'Kibirige Desire Edward" and just noticed that it was previously used but deleted on its submission. I hope you do not affect mine, it is an author's biography. (~~~~) Habombo (talk) 06:53, 25 December 2024 (UTC)