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== Science and technology ==

Good morning,

the section Science and technology is vital to German history and present with being a industrial power. So many German inventions can be shared a little section. I think this part is a must have for the Germany page. ] (]) 05:47, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

:We do not need a section in this article detailing inventions - that is more appropriately placed at a subarticle. ] (]) 01:36, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
::We need a shorten version to bring peoples attention to the longer linked subarticles. the wide and long history of German inventions and science is a central part of German culture and present day German industrial power. ] (]) 09:23, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

:::We already have a paragraph about the importance of R&D - that is sufficient. ] (]) 14:57, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
:The two attempts to add the section were more about individual achievements than the country as a whole. E.g. name-dropping. I would think that a general overview (of the country and its circumstances) with a link to a list article like ] or ] would work better. ] (]) 01:33, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
::] exists, although it has similar issues of being quite listy. ] (]) 02:16, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
::good point. will work on that. ] (]) 10:47, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
:::I fixed the last post on German Science and Technology. can I post it? its common on all other wiki country pages and only a few lines and one picture. ] (]) 20:20, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

::::No - as above, what is already there is sufficient. Suggest working on one of the other pages Jack or CMD mentioned. ] (]) 00:37, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
::::how is the consensus. Science and inventions are a major part of German history and culture. and there is a wide field to introduce. atm one who looks at the wiki article "Germany" has no idea about it. ] (]) 05:18, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

== Religion 2022 census ==

50.7% Christianity
43.8% no religion
3.7% Islam
1.7% others ] (]) 06:48, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

:It that official results aren't yet available. ] (]) 15:00, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
::@] The Census 2022 did not ask for religion. ] (]) 09:04, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

== Add "Most populous country fully in Europe" == == Add "Most populous country fully in Europe" ==


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::And "European Russia" is not a "country fully in Europe" it is merely that portion of Russia that is in Europe. This is basic English. --] (]) (]) 15:12, 19 September 2024 (UTC) ::And "European Russia" is not a "country fully in Europe" it is merely that portion of Russia that is in Europe. This is basic English. --] (]) (]) 15:12, 19 September 2024 (UTC)


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== Second most-populous country in Europe ==
I do not understand why Germany's population statistics within the European continent is being removed. It is a very notable fact. The European Union is an organization that does not represent the entire continent. This sentence about Germany being the second-most populous country in Europe has been featured in the long-standing lead .


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Only recently, a Turkish editor has been actively trying to vandalize the article. As seen here, he is trying to remove the sentence . That too, . All of this is happening without any discussion. And besides, what is there to discuss? Basic geography and demographics does not matter anymore?
In the intro, where it says “Germany is a country in Central Europe”, please add Western Europe as well (I.e. “Germany is a country in Central and Western Europe”.)The UN Geoscheme classifies it as Western Europe for example and several sources have also mentioned Germany being a part of Western Europe as well as Central.
https://books.google.com/books?id=o5flEAAAQBAJ&pg=PA12&dq=un+geoscheme+germany+western+europe&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&source=gb_mobile_search&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiE8MqZ1uSIAxXPLkQIHYImGekQ6AF6BAgLEAM
https://esa.un.org/MigFlows/Definition%20of%20regions.pdf
https://libguides.library.nd.edu/history-western-europe ] (]) 03:20, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
:] '''Not done for now:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> Even though wikipedia itself is ], but please do check ] and ] on wikipedia to check their definition and political cum geographical extension. also you will find a lot more sources and references about that. ]<sup>(])(])</sup> 19:28, 28 September 2024 (UTC)


== Territory in geography section ==
The CIA source used in the demographics section explicitly states that Germany is the second-most populous in the continent after Russia. The lead is supposed to be a summary of the entire article. So why are we removing this sentence about its population within the European continent? How absurd. Or is this "excess" too?


In the last sentence of the first paragraph of the geography section, Germany's area is mentioned as {{convert|357600|km2|sqmi|0|abbr=on}}, which is obviously the rounded figure, as opposed to the exact figure given in the infobox. I think both figures should be consistent, preferably using the precise one for both. Also, there's no source for how much of Germany's total area makes up its land and how much its water area, respectively. ] (]) 18:41, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Central Intelligence Agency - ] (]) 14:17, 23 June 2024 (UTC)


:Done. ] (]) 01:25, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
:You are correct that the lead is intended to be a summary of the entire article. But what that means is that not every notable fact can be included in the lead - just a proportional summary. So while there are several demographic rankings in the article body, there should not be several in the lead - just one is proportional. The EU one is a good pick for that because it is straightforward, undisputed, and doesn't require getting into the weeds about what does or doesn't count as being in Europe. However, if you prefer, we could switch that for the world ranking? ] (]) 02:24, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
::We're counting the European part only. European Russia has 110 million people. Germany has about 84 million people., which makes Germany the 2nd largest. ] (]) 12:00, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
:::Since the last version by Undashing was ungrammatical (sentence starting with "lies"), I looked up the version of the latest FA-review and suggest we follow the idea from there: Having the ranking after mentioning the number of inhabitants and referring to the EU only. I don't see why we should mention any other country (in this case Russia) in the first paragraph of the lead of an article that is about one country. ] (]) 14:32, 7 July 2024 (UTC)


== Semi-protected edit request ==
== 9 pictures in German history ==


{{edit semi-protected|Germany}}
hi
In the intro sentence, please add that Germany is a county in ] and Central Europe. Several sources have had Germany grouped as Western Europe.
https://esa.un.org/MigFlows/Definition%20of%20regions.pdf
https://archive.org/details/politicsinwester00hanc_0 ] (]) 21:38, 30 November 2024 (UTC)


== Germany GDP Per Capita And GDP ==
9 pictures in the history section is common among major countries. can I add one in the last part of German history. its there to cover 35 years of German history. ] (]) 20:23, 29 July 2024 (UTC)


IS 55,521 That Means is 17]Place in the world It GDP 6.017 Trillion 3]Place in the world ] (]) 17:47, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
:Not sure where the number 9 comes from....but or FA and GA country articles generally have one image for every three or four paragraphs see these at ]. That said what image and where are you considering adding this? <span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue">]</span>🍁 00:28, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
:Already updated in the article. ] (]) 19:31, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
::in the last part of history. trying to include Merkel, a known German president and the united Germany yearly celebrations to include major aspects of the last 35 years of German history. ] (]) 05:19, 31 July 2024 (UTC)


== List of Notable Figures ==
== Semi-protected edit request ==


Add Albert Einstein and create a list of Notable Figures, due to Germany's long history and significant scientific contributions that are well documented and are not WP:NOR to list. --] (]) 08:56, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
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In the intro, where it says “Germany is a country in Central Europe”, please add Western Europe as well (I.e. “Germany is a country in Central and Western Europe”.)The UN Geoscheme classifies it as Western Europe for example and several sources have also mentioned Germany being a part of Western Europe as well as Central.
https://books.google.com/books?id=o5flEAAAQBAJ&pg=PA12&dq=un+geoscheme+germany+western+europe&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&source=gb_mobile_search&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiE8MqZ1uSIAxXPLkQIHYImGekQ6AF6BAgLEAM
https://esa.un.org/MigFlows/Definition%20of%20regions.pdf
https://libguides.library.nd.edu/history-western-europe ] (]) 03:20, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
:] '''Not done for now:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> Even though wikipedia itself is ], but please do check ] and ] on wikipedia to check their definition and political cum geographical extension. also you will find a lot more sources and references about that. ]<sup>(])(])</sup> 19:28, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

== Territory in geography section ==


:Such lists (and almost all laundry lists) are clutter—pointless at best, infuriating at worst—when included in encyclopedia articles, though. Doesn't ] suffice? <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F">]<span style="color:#fff">&nbsp;‥&nbsp;</span>]</span> 09:01, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
In the last sentence of the first paragraph of the geography section, Germany's area is mentioned as {{convert|357600|km2|sqmi|0|abbr=on}}, which is obviously the rounded figure, as opposed to the exact figure given in the infobox. I think both figures should be consistent. Also, there's no source for how much of Germany's total area makes up land and water area, respectively. ] (]) 18:41, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

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Add "Most populous country fully in Europe"

Replace bit about 2nd most populated european country with that 120.19.164.2 (talk) 11:46, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Wrong European Russia has 110 million people. Undashing (talk) 10:31, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
And "European Russia" is not a "country fully in Europe" it is merely that portion of Russia that is in Europe. This is basic English. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 15:12, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

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In the intro, where it says “Germany is a country in Central Europe”, please add Western Europe as well (I.e. “Germany is a country in Central and Western Europe”.)The UN Geoscheme classifies it as Western Europe for example and several sources have also mentioned Germany being a part of Western Europe as well as Central. https://books.google.com/books?id=o5flEAAAQBAJ&pg=PA12&dq=un+geoscheme+germany+western+europe&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&source=gb_mobile_search&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiE8MqZ1uSIAxXPLkQIHYImGekQ6AF6BAgLEAM https://esa.un.org/MigFlows/Definition%20of%20regions.pdf https://libguides.library.nd.edu/history-western-europe 2600:100C:A209:D108:5102:8999:2820:F757 (talk) 03:20, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

 Not done for now: Even though wikipedia itself is not a reliable source, but please do check Eastern Europe and Central Europe on wikipedia to check their definition and political cum geographical extension. also you will find a lot more sources and references about that. kemel49 19:28, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

Territory in geography section

In the last sentence of the first paragraph of the geography section, Germany's area is mentioned as 357,600 km (138,070 sq mi), which is obviously the rounded figure, as opposed to the exact figure given in the infobox. I think both figures should be consistent, preferably using the precise one for both. Also, there's no source for how much of Germany's total area makes up its land and how much its water area, respectively. Maxeto0910 (talk) 18:41, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Done. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:25, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

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In the intro sentence, please add that Germany is a county in Western and Central Europe. Several sources have had Germany grouped as Western Europe. https://esa.un.org/MigFlows/Definition%20of%20regions.pdf https://archive.org/details/politicsinwester00hanc_0 2600:100C:A218:9A7B:E879:81B4:EADF:A345 (talk) 21:38, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

Germany GDP Per Capita And GDP

IS 55,521 That Means is 17]Place in the world It GDP 6.017 Trillion 3]Place in the world Ad.Shawn (talk) 17:47, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Already updated in the article. LizardJr8 (talk) 19:31, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

List of Notable Figures

Add Albert Einstein and create a list of Notable Figures, due to Germany's long history and significant scientific contributions that are well documented and are not WP:NOR to list. --WikiNerd202224 (talk) 08:56, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

Such lists (and almost all laundry lists) are clutter—pointless at best, infuriating at worst—when included in encyclopedia articles, though. Doesn't List of Germans suffice? Remsense ‥  09:01, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
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